Google's version of Virtual Reality

I think you underestimate the SL population. Those who really just wanted a packaged chat room left long ago or never get past orientation. The userbase is here because they find some dimension(s) of SL worth putting up with the instability and learning curve. Why else would all these people be paying to basically be beta testers?

There is something here that IMVU and other packaged chat rooms aren't providing.

I'm basically seeing Habbo Hotel with actual 3D graphics lol.

From what I generally see - based on green dot distribution - it's a) music (live or otherwise), and b) sex.

I mean... there's always large number of people at the clubs and similar and I can't really think what they'd be doing but chatting just the same as a chatroom.

Couldn't get past "Joining room...".

Of what little I got to see and have read up on, it is Habbo Hotel with different graphics. You don't make stuff; you get a premade room (though you can pick the colors lol) and premade objects and then play interior decorator. Beyond that it's just another 3D chatroom.

Second Life doesn't have much to fear.

I think you will be able to make stuff.

It has a "report abuse" option for objects, which suggests user created content.

I think we should start a pool to predict the arrival date of the first hilariously sized genitalia.

big or small?

Dealers choice.

Try the Lively Google groups http://groups.google.com/group/lively-help and the Lively Help Center at http://www.lively.com/help/ for possible help.

it will get better. Twinity, Vplace, IMVU, etc. better start upgrading their stuff fast.

It has scripted objects, and let's you upload music and pictures.




You can put multiple image urls in a picture to have a slideshow, or use a Picasa album.

You can show YouTube videos .

Some objects are animated.

You can add hyperlinks to objects.

You can add comments to objects.

You can move objects around, rotate them , stack them, and stand on them.

Doubleclick chairs to sit

Doubleclick elsewhere to teleport.

Click you av to move it.

Control and arrow keys move camera one way, alt and arrow keys moves camera other ways.


Getting Started Guide at http://www.lively.com/help/bin/answer.py?answer=87479&topic=13377

If anyone on that service aproaches you saying they are me, Named Darien.Caldwell, or any derivitave other than Darien.Caldwell0, it is not me. Beware, someone is registering a lot of names that don't belong to them.

A good point Darien. Anyone can make up anyone else's SL name over there. Can't trust nobody.

It has multiple avatar animations.

You can hold hands with someone, hug them, or kick them in the crotch and they crumple over.

I don't see the comparison between Lively and Second Life.

The distinguishing feature about Second Life, compared to other 3D worlds, is users' ability to create content for the world.

Lively does not seem to have resident-created content capabilities.

Lively does not appear to be significantly different than the first 3D social world I ever joined, Worlds Ultimate 3D Chat, back in 1998.

But for the brand name Google, I don't think the appearance of Lively is significant news.

I did finally manage to get in. Kind of laggy and the movement interface is HORRID. Saw no options for creating real custom content yet but apparently it'll come eventually. Though given the scale of the place I'm not certain how creative you can really get. Or what the creation interface would be like.

I think I can see where Google is targeting this. Most 3D chatworlds only have pre-made objects and rooms, a limited number of options and only so much space to explore. Second Life is practically boundless and you have freedom to move around and explore almost any place you want but it also has a big learning curve that many people don't want to deal with. Lively seems intended to set itself right in the center. The usual features of 3D chat, with the option of real content creation that SL offers but not the complexity and learning curve. Your options for creation will obviously be limited, the price paid for simplicity.

Now whether Google can do this properly, who knows.

It's pretty funny, I see the most popular rooms over there are maybe about 10% Second Life users, and of those, I know probably one in five. Early adopter land!

Hey, great job Google. You've created a gateway drug for Second Life.

Cool as it is... it may be mainstream, it may catch the teenage masses, but it's clearly not targeted to be the deeply universal 3D metaverse that Second Life is.

Maybe they will go after Second Life in five years - but Lively sure ain't it.

It was hogging my computer, making this browser go slow as molasses. Much more so than running Second Life and Hipihi both, or three or 4 SL accounts.

Pfft I just tried it. Since I already have a gmail account, Snickers.Snook was available. The chat interface is horrid. 3 clicks every time to send one line of a "private" message to another avatar. Ick. The avatars look like oddly shaped lumps.

I just looked at the article and the Lively website, though I didn't try to download the game (is lively a game or more of a platform to make one's own game? )

It looked quite good - though the strange mixture of cartoony-real and realistic-real avatars struck me. I know we get odd looking avs in SL, but talking to a group of people where some have heads 5 times the size of mine would be wierd.

Hmm one day we will have that to look forward to when our AV's get animated fingers

I had a quick look last night.
Headed straight at the Linden Lab room.
Room materialising........ing......ing.......ing........ing......

I think that Lively will never be a popular as SL because it's way easier to type a bitch about "rezzing" than it is to type about "materialising". "Rezzing" is edgy. "Materialising" is longwinded, pretentious and far less punchy.


But... on second thoughts...
I'm a pirate rabbit in a huge cowboy hat.
I've got a nasty looking hook instead of a hand..
I lok kinda cute.


BUT THE WALK!!

IT'S BRILLIANT!!! I bounce along
I want that walk in SL.


We could build the Lively rooms in SL, make the avatars, the lot!

well maybe it will get shorten? "hang on a second, everything around me is just mating"

It's not that a gang sign is a big deal. It's just ... ugh. When my daughter was a teen she'd throw one up just to watch me wince.

When will people ever get it... 3D content development is a COMPLEX act in itself! you can simplify the tools all you want, at a certain point youw ill have to give up on flexibility. I'm sorry to disapoint you but coming form thsi industry I can assure you, SL has simply the most comprehensive and easiest interface for realtime 3D content creation possibly imaginable.

/me giggles..... Spend a day in the Ferguson region, especially around Japan's prime time. Ain't you seen UR avatars yet? (^_^)

I has a google account... Maybe I'll take a peek to see what kinda trouble I can cause. (^_^)y

I'm trying to login...it keeps saying 'connecting to room', and I'm allowed to fly around, but I can't choose an avatar, nor make a room.

It takes forever to load.

I can't create my own stuff with Sketchup--the obvious choice to not allow content creation with SU is stupid...plain and simple.

I'm bugged by this. I like the web-based, embeddable idea...but Lively doesn't even come close to SL...not for many years will it be anywhere near SL...if ever.