Im no prude but...

Do you or have you actually had teenaged children? By and large, the ones most convinced theirs were doing nothing wrong were the ones most fooled by the kids. My son is about to pass the 30 year old mark and turned out pretty all right, but he managed to get away with a few things in the years between 13 and 21. As did I, and my dad was a senior noncom with the base MPs (as in, very, very senior). Talk about a support and reporting network - if I didn't get a ticket, I got a talking to that was more painful than paying cash. I STILL got away with stuff (I think - maybe they were just tired of responding to everything a kid with a drivers license can do).

So my parents don't intercept the fact that I was heading down to the dam runoff to drink some certified awful Texas light beer and, what, they should lose their car or something? And what exactly is SL/LL going to do to a parent that doesn't supervise, even assuming that kids and parents are on SL? Put it in the TOS? Come on.

Don't forget that BDSM is Bondage, Domination/Discipline, Sadism, and Masochism. Everyone has a point where they draw the line. That's why safewords exist. For some people, a murder/rape is exactly something they want to act out. Since it's just pixels, why not? I've been spending a bit of time watching the RP in CoLA lately. People are having fun. Should we consider a halt to their fantasy just because it breaks down our own personal sense of values? (=_=)y

My 3 year old daughter is the only minor I have any responsibility for protecting. Other minors are the responsibility of their parents.

Whatever happened to good old fashioned cybersex which you paid for and the wife never knew about?

We must return to pose balls that are clean wholesome fun immediately. Please hand in all obscene objects to nearest Linden employee.

I'll say I'm offended. Where's the equal time?

If the bastich gets to punch me out and shoot me, I want animations in there so I can whale on him and shoot him right back. And there should be a Bobbitt animation that rezzes a nice big pair of poultry shears, too.

Seriously, this can be taken either of two ways. It could be fun make-believe, roleplaying that neither one of you would ever dream of taking into RL. I have a Collider Death animation that causes the wearer to fall, strike their head, and die messily...I never want to do that (to myself or anyone else) in RL...but in SL, where you can get right up again, it's a fun joke. I think Brann and I "killed" each other a dozen times each while iceskating last Monday.

Or it could be catering to dark desires, letting people act out the way they really would like to treat others. That's sick.

The difference is...the person using it (surprise, surprise!). Like anything else, these animations can be fun (and a very interesting change from the more traditional animations) or they can be a tool for indulging in psychopathic behaviors.

And I'll agree with Faithless...there ought to be a list of the animations displayed somewhere, so that you don't get a nasty surprise while sitting on the poseball.

Well to be frank I'm never entirely sure where the idea of a free-for-all web became chiseled in as the 11th commandment.

To be honest this is all moot anyway, whether or not you've noticed, the web is now mainstream. Content is being rated and protected as commerce and society puts it to real use.

It always astounds me the way people twist and turn and concoct dubious standpoints to defend the status quo.

After all the bleating and the "who's really to blame"..and "let's turn this argument on its head" stuff.. the concensus seems to be that if a 12 year old can walk off the street into an adult film theatre and watch "Debbie Does Dallas".. (see I'm showing my age here).. that it's the kid's fault.. or the parents.. not the cinema's or the other patrons who smiled leering and invited the child to come sit next to them?

Just saying..

Oh brother! Could I tell you some of the "nasty surprises" I have had sitting on poseballs.

Not before I've had my coffee

But can't the list of animations be accessed easily by either (1) accessing the bed's popup menu or (2) looking in the prim's contents tab? I mean it ought not be a surprise unless you wish it to be, and if you wish it to be a surprise, there should be no indignation when it turns out to be an unpleasant one, it seems to me.

What's a 12 year old doing walking down such a street without his/her parents? It starts at home. I'm not parenting other people's kids.

Just sayin.

So society doesn't have a responsibility to its weak, disenfranchised.. vulnerable..?

Nice world you envisage for us all Zaphod..

B

So we keep the little bastiges away from the funny cartoon nastiness of SL....and they just go and play Grand Theft Auto, which I find more disturbing than anything I've seen in SL.

There should be an effective method of ensuring SL residents are Adults, or in a mixed environment, which I believe is coming, that adult content is properly restricted. Maybe someone will someday figure it out. But so far it hasn't happened.

*No, I am not a parent. But I do spend a lot of time with my young nieces and nephews.

Put a tot of brandy in it - you'll need it.

Im NOT wanting call a halt to anything!! whoaaa...all stop climbing all over this as some sort of moral judgement...im saying...Id rather it was CLEARLY marked as such so I and others who might feel they dont wanna see it- DONT.

Ok so, it would seem there is a market for violence towwards women here as fun or roleplay, I cant help but feel sickened by it (having endured a violent relationship myself)
I havent reported this as anything at ALL...but i DO think it shouldnt be in the middle of a very general bed store...with vague titles in the menu, so you dont really know what it is.

I also feel, rightly or wrongly that Id personally NOT see a bed animated with poses that beat up on females then shot them...but as many have pointed out...to them or others its all just "roleplay"...so be it..but at least signpost it as such....

the moves were not clear at all...i went through the menu not really knowing what most of the moves would be..the one titled "shoot the bitch" yes...it was as simple as it sounded, but given the rest were rather ambiguous i wasnt sure, call me dumb but i genuinely wasnt expecting a shooting animation...i suppose im rather green that way, it just didnt occur to me someone would want that animation in a bed...IF the bed had been signed as such, maybe i wouldve ?
Actually...i wasnt expecting such a violently animated bed to be there at all...I suppose im not worldly enough for SL.

Brandy? Before Noon?

Reaches for the Irish Whiskey instead.

Not unless I'm sick too...

I agree with you Faithless. I dont think these violent aspects are necessary here and are rather sick. But you are going to get these kind of role plays occurring and I even became an "unwilling" participant in one a very long time ago when I was "snuffed" after sl sex by a guy. I wasnt prepared to be killed - I just said "wow, that was ..." and wham! I was flying. It was a nasty thing to do and actually very disturbing. A year ago I actually saw a guy with "Into Snuffing" as his "label". So role play or no role play, there are some limits we must adhere to and respect of each other.

I edited because I mistyped - accidentally made me appear to condone such action. I don't.

Not quite my meaning.

If one minor sneaks into the main grid, and is exposed to the type of content expressed in the OP, the responsibility first and foremost rests with his parents. There is NO excuse, NONE, for parents to allow their children to use the Internet unsupervised. There are plenty of tools available to assist parents in restricting access to content appropriate for children. The bottom line is that parents don't give a shit what their kids are doing day in and day out on the computer. They claim ignorance.. which may be true - kids these days generally do know more about computers than their parents do - but that doesn't remove the responsibility from the parents to understand and control what their children are doing online.

That being said, I long for the day when this type of content begins migrating away from Second Life, and onto other grids in the metaverse. Actually it's happening now. With one particular exception, I've not advocated that it be summarily censored, but I have been very candid in expressing my preference that it go away and find some other place to play.

Malt I trust.

Prefer Jack Daniels, Single Barrel. But that's just me.

As the technology gets more realistic and immersive it may get harder to tell one reality apart from another. The nature of the technology could potentially change the nature of the person, for better or for worse. On the flip side, the nature of the person could also change the nature of the reality. Dahlmer Land or Disneyland could be in the eye of the beholder or the eye of the creator. It just depends upon one's nature. It sort of reminds me of the film "The Cell".

Piffle, the web is full of porn, and the kid is more likely to be downloading an illegal copy of Debbie does Dallas

If it's the "snuff bed" I think it is, it's fairly popular and lots of public-ish places have it rezzed. The maker of that bed offers a comprehensive line of Dolcett accessories too.