What does pep mean?

Nope, my secondary English teacher was a semi-perverted part time Minister. He was...portly shall we say. We used to poke him in the stomach and call him the Pillsbury Dough Boy when we were behaving. Then again, I attended school where they didn't care if we wore shoes or not, so it was a fairly relaxed atmosphere with few lines of authority.

That's the bloke in Torchwood. Anagram of Doctor Who by the way. Maybe Pep's an anagram also.

Epp
Ppe
P p p pokerface ...

Werll get going then. I have to too so you won't miss anything from me.

pst...he does that teh ALL THE TIME! LMAO!

pssst: ooh and a typo. I'll leave it

Nope, that's all. I am refreshed and challenged by your point of view. Your insight is both interesting and informative. After reading your answers, your point suddenly becomes clear. I agree, we should have zero tolerance for non-perfect English typists in this multinational community. And I now agree they are beneath contempt, and are nothing but time wasters.

I'm glad we have you here, Mr Sphincter - delicately crafting informative posts in your ivory tower HQ, and spreading supremely important grammar skills with your tough love like an internet super hero.

Do you have a newsletter I could subscribe to?

I have explained to you before that although I have subsequently lectured at Oxford Brookes Business School I am a Cambridge man, both undergraduate and postgraduate. I did row one term for a "gentleman's boat" but being Welsh my sporting prowess was most evident on the rugby pitch. I did have muscles, but sadly the six pack is now subsumed by a beer barrel. I was and still am like someone in Torchwood, but *not* Captain Jack!


Pep (No chance. My tastes have always run to intelligent women. )

PS "I may have twelve inches but I don't use it as a rule."

I wore my Mum's Doc Marten's from when she was at school. Ultra Cool. Lovely sandal style. Cute. She'd nail-polished slogan's on them like "f**k you" and stuff like that.
She's given me her entire collection and just kept purple ones.
I love the pink clonky ones.
Now I gotta GO, laurin!!!
You may be just aimless and watching Wimbledon BUT I have a mission today.

Thanks for that. I've seen that Torchwood thing bandied about and I never realised it was an anagram. I'm really out of the loop with Doctor Who: old enough to vaguely remember William Hartnell and certainly old enough to realise that every Doctor since Patrick Troughton has been a pale shadow of the little clown.

I can just about remember the original broadcast of this one:

The Daleks meet the Forsyte Saga! Feckin brill!!

Ooooooo you are awful ... but I like you ...!
Who said that catchphrase?

Must GO.
ahh the roar of the grease paint, the smell of the crowd ...
Jiggy C.

Dick Emery

Pep (Didn't cross the Atlantic I believe - or even the Channel.)

Wait now - Doctor Who is not *from* Cardiff - the current episodes are filmed there and thereabouts. Torchwood is sited in Cardiff, but Capt. Jack is not from there either. The only "natives" are Gwen and Ianto. And Gwen's boyfriend Rhys.

So, Jig - when you say you wish Pep were like one of the blokes from Torchwood, you can't mean the Welsh one.

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Me !!!!!!!!! ooppps, I mean,

I !!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyone would think I was anti-Welsh - and I consider myself to be almost Welsh educated! I went to an English university, but there were so many Welsh lecturers that we would enter the Biology Department, en masse, all of us singing, "We'll keep a welcome in the hillsides".

Deira (Honest, it's true, we really did do that - once.)

Aren't you Canadian? If so, you should know!

"ooo you're a mean old daddy, but I like you" --- Joni Mitchell
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Although such study never took place there, it still is interesting

http://dan.hersam.com/2005/01/27/reading-jumbled-letters/

I think above article might be very amusing for you Pep.

Ow, and just a bit of my personal oppinion: Although I do find some of Pep's responces annoying, and don't agree with his ideas about spelling and the importancy of it, He sure ain't no asshole in my book.

I just really find this all very amusing

I am not gonna improve my English skills just for his sake and he is not gonna change his ways either, it might colide again in the future, so what, part of life. But when giving a sincere reply, as I did to him about my experiences with hay fever, he does actually appreceate it as you can see in his responce.

I have seen the fake study quoted before Benski, and it is close to the mark. English has an astonishing rate of redundancy; I have seen it suggested that you could miss out 50% of letters and it would still probably be pretty comprehensible. It is not the formation (spelling, typos, punctuation etc) of the words which is likely to confuse, however, but the mispresentation of concepts by those who do not understand the nuances implicit in those same words. The example I always give is of the translation of the saying "out of sight, out of mind" into "invisible idiot". Correct technically, but a mile wide of the mark in terms of the intent of the original meaning of the phrase.

Even worse, spoken communication is 10% about the words used and 90% about the body language and tone of the presentation, for which you need to be present to have a chance to interpret. Written communication is the converse, with 90% of the meaning attached to the words and 10% expressed in the presentation, including emoticons. For example, it is impossible to detect irony (in its pure sense) with any certainty in the absence of any additional information, whether it is or [irony] . . . [/irony].

So in the forums we have to go on the basis of what people type. It is a short step from believing that if posters can't be bothered to spell check their submissions to believing that they have not taken care in expressing their opinions (one p by the way) and this applies just as much to EFLers as ESLers. Even more perhaps, because if someone has indicated that they are an ESLer then it is easy enough to disregard their views when they are being expressed inadequately, and put the problem down to cultural differences or translation difficulties. Lack of commitment to spell-checking however (very simple nowadays, in any number of languages, even Welsh which has the annoying habit of changing the first letter of a word depending upon the last letter of the previous word - how do you use a dictionary in that case?) does tend to indicate that the poster is lazy or sloppy, and leads to their views being deprecated regardless of their language status. Punctuation is another clue. As far as I am aware, similar rules apply to most languages (with slight differences, such as the Spanish inverted question mark) so run-on sentences and the like can be taken as an indication of lack of respect for the reader.

Educational authorities in the UK have (fairly quietly, not wanting to admit their volte face in reasoning) reinstated the importance of spelling in academic assessments, which delights me. I perceive txt and email abbreviations as being a temporary phenomenon which will disappear as voice processing becomes more widespread, and I reuse to drop my standards in my professional life.

I perceive these forums as a fairly formal communications space in comparison with inworld or chat forums, and I honestly believe that the exchange of information which is the critical aspect of these forums (Residents Answers above all) is improved by posters ensuring that their words reflect their opinions and views as accurately as possible; On a daily basis I see demonstrations of misunderstandings which cloud issues and prevent clear solutions being identified. Frequently it is easy to identify why an Original Poster has had a problem in the first place, as they are unable to express their question in a way that it *can* be answered.

Pep (tired from the tirade)

I refuse to read that all Pep. My attention span is like that of a housefly.


Condensed versions please.

Next time you could use the abbreviation: tldr

Pep (and save even more time!)

Well that would just be lazy! I am a Princess, I need to look like I somewhat care.

Which? The REAL Confucius, or the pop-culture Confucius?

I wouldn't know any semi-literate pretentious dragons, let alone gardeners. They would be too much like you for me to associate with.

What, you don't do that BEFORE you press "Submit"? O.o

How... un-Pep-like of you!

That would mean you really are no better than anyone else here who makes mistakes!

Someone call CNN! I think we have a scoop...

It's usually written "tl;dr", by the way.

Before AND after.

Pep (I also check the spelling of references before I make a fool of myself, which you don't seem to worry about. )

I know.

Pep (I thought that Rioko would get bored looking for the semi-colon on her keyboard though. )

Yes, of course, "Conficious" notwithstanding.

Since when has that EVER stopped you from "educating" the "dumb" in forums?

Hey - you got it right this time!

Pep (You see - the forums *are* educational! )

PS Don't put yourself down; I am sure you are fairly clever, for a dragon, that is.