Camping Chiars?
A Week ago My land Lord Took down my camping chairs. and told me about LL banning them. I read the SL Blog they say it true.But I still see people using them.
So is camping banner or not ?
I hope SL changed there mind.
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05-31-2009 05:02
it's a big grid and takes time for everyone to get the news..
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Ciaran Laval
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05-31-2009 05:20
Using camping to artifically inflate your traffic is banned. Take that how you wish, one camping chair is highly unlikely to get you in trouble, twenty is.
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3Ring Binder
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05-31-2009 06:10
where does it say "camping is banned"?
it says BOTS are banned. campers are income earners, and the reason for having campers on one's land can vary, although there is an obvious purpose for most. _____________________
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05-31-2009 06:24
where does it say "camping is banned"? it says BOTS are banned. campers are income earners, and the reason for having campers on one's land can vary, although there is an obvious purpose for most. https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/land/blog/2009/05/21/further-clarification-on-bots-and-camping _____________________
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Ralektra Breda
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05-31-2009 06:26
where does it say "camping is banned"? it says BOTS are banned. campers are income earners, and the reason for having campers on one's land can vary, although there is an obvious purpose for most. ...The policy we announced is about Traffic, how that relates to Search, and how a deliberate attempt to falsely drive up the traffic score will no longer be allowed. We know from your comments that you want Search to be fair and relevant, and we want that too. Whether a landowner uses Bots or Camping Chairs, or Camping Chairs with Bots in them, the effect is the same - the traffic score for that parcel is inflated unfairly. Are there other uses for so called Camping Chairs other than for Traffic? If you know of some please let us know in the comments below! However, the feedback and data tells us that by far the main reason for large numbers of Camping Chairs at a location is to unfairly gain a Search advantage. So the policy statement is that where we see a Resident unfairly increasing their Search ranking, regardless of how that is achieved, it will be considered as 'gaming'. We will give a first warning to begin with and direct people to the policy. However continued gaming can result in suspension or removal from Search listings altogether. This is from the blog https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/land/blog/2009/05/21/further-clarification-on-bots-and-camping _____________________
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beatrix Muircastle
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06-18-2009 19:26
so are they gonna outlaw events too?
I don't see how campers are disturbing the peace. I see situations where a person doesn't know where to find work so they camp until they get their bearings. kid avies can't really work a lot of places so camping for them is a huge boost. especaly if they're trying to get adopted. it may be generating false traffic, but we have regs. they come to our sims because they like it too so its not like were are just luring strangers over to pretend our sim is cool. they like the sim and they need the money. they also bring over more newbies that need help. last I heard helping newbs was a good thing. |
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Ralektra Breda
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06-18-2009 21:32
campers aren't disturbing the peace (usually). They are used to inflate traffic numbers, which causes a business to rank higher in search based not on their product popularity, but on how many campers they have. It gave those businesses an unfair advantage.
There are a ton of places where new players can get pretty much anything they need to get themselves started, for free. I have good news for you though, since you want to use camping for the sole purpose of helping other players. LL is working on a way for you to be able to allow camping, but the campers won't count for traffic. Since you aren't using them to boost traffic anyway, that should be fine! Just give them a chance to get that implemented. Maybe there are other generous people here who plan to run camping to help other players and they might have some up to date information. _____________________
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06-18-2009 21:58
so are they gonna outlaw events too? Events aren't creating false traffic - they create real and social traffic, the most legitimate kind possible. Campers disturb in that by counting for traffic, they cause people to go to locations expecting to interact with others only to find no one is ever really there, or that those there are less than social. _____________________
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Phil Deakins
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06-19-2009 03:13
I have good news for you though, since you want to use camping for the sole purpose of helping other players. LL is working on a way for you to be able to allow camping, but the campers won't count for traffic. Since you aren't using them to boost traffic anyway, that should be fine! Just give them a chance to get that implemented. Maybe there are other generous people here who plan to run camping to help other players and they might have some up to date information. _____________________
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beatrix Muircastle
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06-19-2009 13:48
campers aren't disturbing the peace (usually). They are used to inflate traffic numbers, which causes a business to rank higher in search based not on their product popularity, but on how many campers they have. It gave those businesses an unfair advantage. There are a ton of places where new players can get pretty much anything they need to get themselves started, for free. I have good news for you though, since you want to use camping for the sole purpose of helping other players. LL is working on a way for you to be able to allow camping, but the campers won't count for traffic. Since you aren't using them to boost traffic anyway, that should be fine! Just give them a chance to get that implemented. Maybe there are other generous people here who plan to run camping to help other players and they might have some up to date information. that sounds fair. I wonder if they are going to stop basing search on traffic now. it sounds like it would better since I heard they don't pay people for traffic anymore. just a thought. |
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Ciaran Laval
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06-19-2009 14:00
so are they gonna outlaw events too? Indeed, the policy is a pile of pants. People use ways and means of boosting traffic, a couple of camping chairs really shouldn't be an issue. Twenty probably is, it should be a common sense call, Jack told me it will be so I hope he's true to his word. |
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Clarissa Lowell
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06-19-2009 14:43
I'd say (up to) three camping chairs and three lucky chairs per store should be plenty.
That's enough to keep people coming in (it would actually cause MORE to stay and line up in hopes of winning, with good prizes) without it lagging the heck out of most stores/sims. _____________________
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beatrix Muircastle
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06-19-2009 15:15
Indeed, the policy is a pile of pants. People use ways and means of boosting traffic, a couple of camping chairs really shouldn't be an issue. Twenty probably is, it should be a common sense call, Jack told me it will be so I hope he's true to his word. our sim had only 4 and they were meant to help newbies. we have bot checks and we try to enforce the no afk rule on them. our sim owner still go in trouble for it. I dunno what to make of that. |
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Ciaran Laval
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06-19-2009 16:20
our sim had only 4 and they were meant to help newbies. we have bot checks and we try to enforce the no afk rule on them. our sim owner still go in trouble for it. I dunno what to make of that. Maybe he panicked? I don't think four on a sim would raise any eyebrows. As it stands model bots are still allowed and they generate traffic. |
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beatrix Muircastle
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06-19-2009 16:24
Maybe he panicked? I don't think four on a sim would raise any eyebrows. As it stands model bots are still allowed and they generate traffic. do you mean our sim owner or the linden panicked? because they returned them all to her and warned her officially and said she'll get banned if she puts any more out. we don't even know if lucky chairs are safe. she's trying to find alternatives to camping but she isn't sure whats safe and legal. |
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Ciaran Laval
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06-19-2009 16:26
do you mean our sim owner or the linden panicked? because they returned them all to her and warned her officially and said she'll get banned if she puts any more out. we don't even know if lucky chairs are safe. she's trying to find alternatives to camping but she isn't sure whats safe and legal. Well if the Lindens returned them it's a very sad state of affairs. The Lindens involved should be ashamed of themselves. |
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beatrix Muircastle
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06-19-2009 16:29
Well if the Lindens returned them it's a very sad state of affairs. The Lindens involved should be ashamed of themselves. maybe it just means they were serious and they really will not allow camping. I hope they change their minds soon. this is a tad unfair. |
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Ciaran Laval
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06-19-2009 16:31
maybe it just means they were serious and they really will not allow camping. I hope they change their minds soon. this is a tad unfair. It's absurd whilst umpteen other "traffic boosting" initiatives are allowed. |
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beatrix Muircastle
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06-19-2009 16:36
It's absurd whilst umpteen other "traffic boosting" initiatives are allowed. like what? |
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Clarissa Lowell
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06-19-2009 16:36
It's absurd whilst umpteen other "traffic boosting" initiatives are allowed. Like what? Maybe you should write a JIRA about it. _____________________
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Ciaran Laval
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06-19-2009 16:44
like what? Midnight mania, lucky chairs, wonder chairs, treasure hunts, games, that how low will it go thingy, dance pads, having your workspace above your store, model bots, freebies, money trees. |
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Phil Deakins
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06-19-2009 16:44
I wonder if they are going to stop basing search on traffic now. _____________________
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Ciaran Laval
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06-19-2009 16:44
Like what? Maybe you should write a JIRA about it. I would rather poke my eyes out with needles than play the Jira game. I cannot stand the Jira and all its associated politics. |
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Phil Deakins
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06-19-2009 16:46
Like what? Maybe you should write a JIRA about it. _____________________
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