He doesn't seem to think so.
Then again, Fox news is equally entertaining.
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He doesn't seem to think so.
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03-02-2009 13:35
Do you think maybe it's more of a vocal minority than a silent majority? Otherwise, wouldn't you have just won the election? What's this "You"? I was not a supporter of either candidate. Both of the 2 major parties have totally abandoned the ideals this country was founded upon, there really is very litle difference between them, they accomplish the same agenda through different means, that's about all. I think there is a silent majority on both sides who are looking for a viable alternative to the 2 parties, who aren't on the extremes of either wing. Those that don't stay home out of apathy, grudingly take column A or B because they have fallen for the propaganda that tells them to vote any other way is just wasting your vote. _____________________
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03-02-2009 13:38
Why don't you reply to the people that are actually talking to you about your little "anti crisis" rant. ![]() Last time I checked, this was a public forum. If you insist on shoving your views onto everyone's monitors you can expect to receive replies. But that sort of behaviour might be too democratic for you. _____________________
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03-02-2009 13:47
Last time I checked, this was a public forum. If you insist on shoving your views onto everyone's monitors you can expect to receive replies. But that sort of behaviour might be too democratic for you. lolwut? Who complained? You are the one selectively responding to posts while the bullshit you posted way back in the thread has been challenged already and you ingore it. So i guess that earns you a reply priority of about ZERO when it comes to any topic. But thanks for playing hey. ![]() Next time try responding to the posts people have made at you since you too are allowed to defend your own 'views'. Which you have chosen not to do..._____________________
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03-02-2009 13:54
Psssst! I hear Obama is thinking of taxing tea . . . does that mean it's time for another revolution?
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03-02-2009 13:55
I think it was Robert Heinlein that said something like: modern democracies are terrible, but they're better than any other type of government out there. I can't imagine anything more un-American, though, than an armed rebellion against a democratically elected government. What would you replace it with? A down-home moral conservative dictatorship? If you instilled another "democratic" government, wouldn't you stand to lose the following election unless you threated to shoot us all? And if you seceed, how the heck to you cut the country up? Wouldn't it look like an ugly red and blue patchwork quilt? Actually, I thought Ben Franklin said that, but I may be incorrect. In my Tin Foil inspired scenario, the arms are not necessarily to bring down the Governmnet, but to protect us as that same government grows so bloated, corrupt and ineffective that the social fabric begins to rot, and the basic functions it should provide begin to fail. People who have no jobs to support themselves and find the federal Teat has gone dry begin to get desperate. The governement becomes incapable of protecting it's citizens who must now protect themselves. Of course if I put on two tin foil hats, the Globalist One World Governement Demons come out, and through the Gang of International Thieves known as The United Nations, The New World Order arrives on our shores. Then the weapons can be used to shoot at those pretty blue helmets. Far fetched? Probably. But so was the idea of a Black man being elected President not too long ago. Maybe it's a mess. But I would suggest continuing to excercise your free speech and freedom of the press, remain vigilant, point out every abuse you find, and work to elect somebody you like better next time. I know; easy for me to say because my party won. But that's what I had to do the last 8 years! I didn't like the guy, but hey, democracy spoke and at that point he was my president. I was mad, but I never threatened to buy a gun. The "My party won" aspect of our politics is part of the problem, again on both sides. We've been locked into this binary style of thinking, that it can only be left or right, liberal or conservative, and we must vote the Party Line even if we disagree. Until that changes, it will never improve, it is just the same wheel going round. _____________________
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03-02-2009 13:57
Psssst! I hear Obama is thinking of taxing tea . . . does that mean it's time for another revolution? Dan the "Common Sense" Man Only sissy alts drink tea anyway. _____________________
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03-02-2009 13:59
What's this "You"? I was not a supporter of either candidate. Both of the 2 major parties have totally abandoned the ideals this country was founded upon, there really is very litle difference between them, they accomplish the same agenda through different means, that's about all. I think there is a silent majority on both sides who are looking for a viable alternative to the 2 parties, who aren't on the extremes of either wing. Those that don't stay home out of apathy, grudingly take column A or B because they have fallen for the propaganda that tells them to vote any other way is just wasting your vote. Yea i did not vote either. I live in a blue state - Illinois. My vote would have meant nothing, so staying at home was my protest, and this was my first time not voting since i turned 18. _____________________
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03-02-2009 13:59
Actually, I thought Ben Franklin said that, but I may be incorrect. In my Tin Foil inspired scenario, the arms are not necessarily to bring down the Governmnet, but to protect us as that same government grows so bloated, corrupt and ineffective that the social fabric begins to rot, and the basic functions it should provide begin to fail. People who have no jobs to support themselves and find the federal Teat has gone dry begin to get desperate. The governement becomes incapable of protecting it's citizens who must now protect themselves. Of course if I put on two tin foil hats, the Globalist One World Governement Demons come out, and through the Gang of International Thieves known as The United Nations, The New World Order arrives on our shores. Then the weapons can be used to shoot at those pretty blue helmets. Far fetched? Probably. But so was the idea of a Black man being elected President not too long ago. The "My party won" aspect of our politics is part of the problem, again on both sides. We've been locked into this binary style of thinking, that it can only be left or right, liberal or conservative, and we must vote the Party Line even if we disagree. Until that changes, it will never improve, it is just the same wheel going round. Dan the economic Man |
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Yea i did not vote either. I live in a blue state - Illinois. My vote would have meant nothing, so staying at home was my protest, and this was my first time not voting since i turned 18. I disagree, and that is exactly the mentality both parties want the other side to have. Keep potential votes against them at home. How many others did the same thing? Perhaps enough that had they voted, the result may have been different. I didn't say I didn't vote. I just didn't choose either of the lesser of 2 evils. I haven't voted for a mainstream party candidate, at least on a Presidential level since 1996. _____________________
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03-02-2009 14:10
t? Maybe it's a mess. But I would suggest continuing to excercise your free speech and freedom of the press, remain vigilant, point out every abuse you find, and work to elect somebody you like better next time. I know; easy for me to say because my party won. But that's what I had to do the last 8 years! I didn't like the guy, but hey, democracy spoke and at that point he was my president. I was mad, but I never threatened to buy a gun. --Avion Very good, you support the 1st Amendment to The Constitution. Why would you not support others rights to exercise the 2nd Amendment? After all it did take the Supreme Court a bit to decide that the amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm for private use. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller I always thought that the language was pretty clear myself but I digress. |
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03-02-2009 14:20
Psssst! I hear Obama is thinking of taxing tea . . . does that mean it's time for another revolution? Dan the "Common Sense" Man *chuckles* http://michellemalkin.com/2009/02/21/tea-party-usa-the-movement-grows/ |
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03-02-2009 14:42
Actually, I thought Ben Franklin said that, but I may be incorrect. In my Tin Foil inspired scenario, the arms are not necessarily to bring down the Governmnet, but to protect us as that same government grows so bloated, corrupt and ineffective that the social fabric begins to rot, and the basic functions it should provide begin to fail. People who have no jobs to support themselves and find the federal Teat has gone dry begin to get desperate. The governement becomes incapable of protecting it's citizens who must now protect themselves. Of course if I put on two tin foil hats, the Globalist One World Governement Demons come out, and through the Gang of International Thieves known as The United Nations, The New World Order arrives on our shores. Then the weapons can be used to shoot at those pretty blue helmets. In my view, if things ever got as bad as that anywhere in this country, everyone from Sheriff to Mayor to Governor on up to President would get voted out so fast, they wouldn't know what hit them. No liberal or conservative population would put up with either of your scenarios. I read somewhere that no democracy has ever experienced a famine, for example. (I don't know if that's true -- if not, they're at least very rare). Once things get bad enough in any aspect of life in a democracy, everybody gets off the couch to go vote the problem away. The fact that many people just don't vote just goes to show that most people simply aren't pissed off enough to care what's going on or who is running things. That's sad, in my opinion. But at the same time it shows that even though there's a lot of anger out there, we're in no way close to any kind of revolution, and probably never will be. Locke, sorry buddy; I'm not ignoring you; it's just hard for me to pull up links where I am right now ![]() --Avion |
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03-02-2009 15:02
No liberal or conservative population would put up with either of your scenarios. There you go again. You are using the same idealogical dichotomy that has been force fed to us all these years. What about anacrchists, communists, libertarians, and any others who may be lurking out there. The current 2 party scheme might just piss of enough people to make one of those fringe groups less fringe. Perhpas now is the time of the Whigs, or the Know Nothings...oh wait. They already control the major parties, never mind._____________________
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03-02-2009 15:07
There you go again. You are using the same idealogical dichotomy that has been force fed to us all these years. What about anacrchists, communists, libertarians, and any others who may be lurking out there. The current 2 party scheme might just piss of enough people to make one of those fringe groups less fringe. Perhpas now is the time of the Whigs, or the Know Nothings...oh wait. They already control the major parties, never mind.LOL. You do a good Reagan. I agree -- the 2 party system leaves nearly everybody unhappy about something. ![]() |
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03-02-2009 15:12
Really, regardless of which party took power, the problems we face are complex enough that I doubt any of you could point us toward a workable set of solutions that wouldn't have their own set of problems. At the same time, I have little confidence that those currently in power (or who could have been in power) have such a magic bullet in mind. You can't just point to a policy and call foul for it failing and say the policy makers are "stupid". Don't disregard the fact that we all come from vastly different backgrounds with different expectations, goals, and needs. When you make one person happy, you piss off three more. I'm not sure what the answer is, but I do think that people need to learn to understand one another better, consider viewpoints other than their own, and attempt to work together despite their disagreements. Drawing lines in the sand doesn't fix anything.
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03-02-2009 15:16
No problem Avion
I'm just a staunch believer that we as citizens are the final line of defense for our country in Brenda's TEOTWAWKI/SHTF scenarios as well as for our homes and families against everyday crime. Let's take a for instance...weekend before last there was a daylight burglary in a middle class neighborhood not far from me. Despite four 911 calls the police response time was 20 minutes. The excuse given by the Chief of Police was "it was shift change time and all the officers were at the Police Services Center across town". (I work in that area and know there's a police substation roughly 1.5 miles from the house that was burglarized.) By the time police arrived, the burglary was finished and a neighbor was following the van the burglars were in taking pics of it. The officers refused to meet him to pull the van over. I grew up in a small town where everyone owned guns for hunting and home defense if necessary. Had the above happened there I'm sure that more than one armed neighbor would have walked up to the burglars and said something like "Good afternoon fellas, y'all need to put that stuff down and lay down on the ground till the police arrive." But the burglars got away and the victim's homeowner's insurance is replacing the stolen items. So much for "serving and protecting". |
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03-02-2009 15:24
Oh yeah...yesterday, same neighborhood. A young gentleman was apprehended while liberating a car stereo. He confessed under questioning that he was responsible for a rash of similar thefts in the area. Local media is investigating the rumor that the gentleman in question is the son of 2 local LEOs.
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03-02-2009 15:33
I do agree that we have to shed that "My vote doesn't count" mentality. It does count, even if it is the only vote that candidate receives, if he is the one you support, and it is one less vote for someone you don't support. I am also a big believer in letting them know when they aren't doing as you, the person who hired them, wish. They work for us, but they have it rigged to be the other way around.
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Wow, the level of maturity is just impressive here. Well, while we're acting like kids, did you KNOW that you have stuff hanging out of your nose? ![]() I was going to ask where the raisins were in that picture, but yours works. _____________________
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Wow, the level of maturity is just impressive here. Well, while we're acting like kids, did you KNOW that you have stuff hanging out of your nose? ![]() Wow...So you start with some flippant remark about Fox or Rush, and then have the nerve to talk about maturity, while still ignoring previous posts where your idiotic "anti-crisis" rant was challenged. Yea...you are not helping the maturity level much at all yourself Canuck. Don't make lil snarky immature quips and then cry about maturity level when you get back what you put out. I won't be wasting anymore time replying to you. I'll just sit back quietly and watch Pep you use like the tool you are. _____________________
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