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The Real Reason Behind LL's Adult Content Changes

Brenda Connolly
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05-14-2009 07:23
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If we do, it's going to be up to you to take care of him.


OK. But I'm not cleaning his cage.
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Ian Nider
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05-14-2009 07:25
From: Paracelsus Schonberg
I think it is rather small minded, and oh so un-original, and insensitive, of people to continue to use that period of German history to make a point. There are plenty of modern examples to use if you can not find creative ways of doing so.

LL is certainly not the Gestapo, but certainly with you, and your ilk, as a vigilante, there is little need for LL to hire enforcers.


And there's an AR in that for Cato. He's not really cutting it as cop, eh.
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05-14-2009 07:26
From: Elric Anatine
I'd say it's more to do with politics and the religious right than appeasing parents directly because... SL is for adults. Yes, we know under agers find their way in, but officially, SL is not for under 18s.


The "religious right" has no power, besides SL isn't even a blip on their screen. Try politicians, educators, and the corporate types.
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05-14-2009 07:27
From: Ian Nider
And there's an AR in that for Cato. He's not really cutting it as cop, eh.

I think you will find that it was Amaranthim that made the allusion, not me. I was just attempting to clarify the scope of her intolerance.
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05-14-2009 07:33
From: Cato Badger
I think you will find that it was Amaranthim that made the allusion, not me. I was just attempting to clarify the scope of her intolerance.


I don't think so. It was you that used the term and also, I don't think she was saying saying SL were like that, I think she was saying your defense of *just doing as told* is a crock.

Your racking up the AR's yourself, lol, swearing and insulting Germany, it'd be a artistic troll if you could get it right.
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05-14-2009 07:33
From: Brenda Connolly
OK. But I'm not cleaning his cage.

You can leave that to Ricky... I hear he's good with a firehose.
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05-14-2009 07:39
From: Ian Nider
I don't think so. It was you that used the term and also, I don't think she was saying saying SL were like that, I think she was saying your defense of *just doing as told* is a crock.

Your racking up the AR's yourself, lol, swearing and insulting Germany, it'd be a artistic troll if you could get it right.

Absolutely incorrect of course, but presumably you are so angry (as further evidenced by your out of control typing) at being warned by LL to moderate your language that you are unable to read my postings accurately. You do realise that unjustified and vindictive ARs are likely to get you banned.
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05-14-2009 07:43
From: Cato Badger
Absolutely incorrect of course, but presumably you are so angry (as further evidenced by your out of control typing) at being warned by LL to moderate your language that you are unable to read my postings accurately. You do realise that unjustified and vindictive ARs are likely to get you banned.


I'm not angry, I am laughing. To be honest, I think your just having a bit of fun trolling.
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05-14-2009 07:49
From: Paracelsus Schonberg
I think it is rather small minded, and oh so un-original, and insensitive, of people to continue to use that period of German history to make a point. There are plenty of modern examples to use if you can not find creative ways of doing so.

LL is certainly not the Gestapo, but certainly with you, and your ilk, as a vigilante, there is little need for LL to hire enforcers.

Please note that while i have the fool on ignore i can of course see others' posts. I did not mention Gestapo or Nazis very much on purpose because it is a horrible part of our shared human history and should not be taken lightly. However, the excuse of I was only folowing orders has been used in various war crimes even to this day - My comment was meant to highlight the fact you did catch- that the self appointed pompous ass is beneath our contempt and in no way did i imply LL in that context. In fact it is just another obvious troll post from cato that he would try and lay that on my doorstep.
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05-14-2009 07:51
From: Ian Nider
I don't think so. It was you that used the term and also, I don't think she was saying saying SL were like that, I think she was saying your defense of *just doing as told* is a crock.

Your racking up the AR's yourself, lol, swearing and insulting Germany, it'd be a artistic troll if you could get it right.

Thankyou very much- this was exactly my point and Germany and Nazis and Hitler were nto cited. Should anyone care to seach thru my over 9k posts you will find not one remark pertaining to other allusions of nazism - i even find the term soup nazi to be horrible. The utter shame of what was perpetrated on humanity in that dark time of histroy should never be made light off lest anyone forget.
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Brenda Connolly
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05-14-2009 07:53
I blame it all on Damien.
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05-14-2009 07:53
From: Viciously Llewellyn
I would agree completely, but would bet my SUV that there would be very few kids on Second Life, playing with a kid avatar.


That is definately true, although there might be some deliberately doing so because they (a) know it is wrong and (b) know that the adult is likely the one who would be punished (potentially ruined), while they, the kid, likely are not charged with anything significant, being underage.

The inability and/or inexperience to comprehend the consequences of their actions is why kids are protected and/or restricted in the first place.
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05-14-2009 07:55
From: Amaranthim Talon
Thankyou very much- this was exactly my point and Germany and Nazis and Hitler were nto cited. Should anyone care to seach thru my over 9k posts you will find not one remark pertaining to other allusions of nazism - i even find the term soup nazi to be horrible. The utter shame of what was perpetrated on humanity in that dark time of histroy should never be made light off lest anyone forget.


Your welcome, we can all see it was Cato that said it.

Your so right too in that it's no joke either.
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05-14-2009 08:06
From: Amaranthim Talon
Please note that while i have the fool on ignore i can of course see others' posts. I did not mention Gestapo or Nazis very much on purpose because it is a horrible part of our shared human history and should not be taken lightly. However, the excuse of I was only folowing orders has been used in various war crimes even to this day - My comment was meant to highlight the fact you did catch- that the self appointed pompous ass is beneath our contempt and in no way did i imply LL in that context. In fact it is just another obvious troll post from cato that he would try and lay that on my doorstep.

Your post implied that I was following the orders of Linden Labs, and making a hyperbolically exaggerated analogy to this being the excuse of those accused of war crimes, most famously by the Gestapo. Not specifically mentioning Gestapo or Nazis is not an excuse. Your comments did imply an analogy of them with Linden Labs and me with the Gestapo. That is unacceptable.
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05-14-2009 08:08
Should I whip off my pants and wave them in salute now?
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05-14-2009 08:15
From: Cato Badger
Your post implied that I was following the orders of Linden Labs, and making a hyperbolically exaggerated analogy to this being the excuse of those accused of war crimes, most famously by the Gestapo. Not specifically mentioning Gestapo or Nazis is not an excuse. Your comments did imply an analogy of them with Linden Labs and me with the Gestapo. That is unacceptable.


No they didn't, as Paracelsus mentions, there are plenty of other examples. Also it's been explained to you, it wasn't a referral to LL, but to your excuse for trolling, with your *your just doing as LL tell you too*.

You can't get past the fact you said it... you can't even edit it out this time, lol.

Your falling so deep in the AR zone, this time with defaming people, even after being asked to stop.
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05-14-2009 08:24
From: Amaranthim Talon
I did not mention . . . very much on purpose because it . . . should not be taken lightly. However, the excuse of I was only folowing orders has been used in various war crimes even to this day - My comment was meant to highlight the fact you did catch- that the self appointed pompous ass is beneath our contempt and in no way did i imply LL in that context. In fact it is just another obvious troll post from cato that he would try and lay that on my doorstep.
Agreed, and hopefully you did not read any of my remark as directed to you as it was solely meant for Mr./Mrs. Vigilante. [I am most always positively impressed with your posts.]

S/he believes it is ok to be insensitive to get a point across, and even defend that type of thinking. S/he really needs to look in the mirror for fault finding - maybe even open the good book to the relevant passages about a log in one's eye before finding fault in others.

BTW, in keeping with the nature of vigilantism, s/he disguises him/herself here as an alt, revealing his/her cowardice.

I can not imagine any of the regulars here following him/her into SL. So what is s/he afraid of? We all have our bad moments, but take it no further than these forums unless so invited.
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05-14-2009 08:41
From: Cato Badger
That is unacceptable.


Not to me. I think we should take a vote and see how many find it unacceptable.

But in a way, you are right. You would fit in much better with the STASI than the Gestapo. The STASI was quite well known for having their civilian snitches.
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05-14-2009 08:45
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Your first comment is probably correct, but the latter two are irrelevant as Cato is a forum only avatar. Now please return the thread to the OPs question before it gets locked.
Discussing your motivations is completely on-topic in this particular thread, since the question of whether you are acting from malice or misunderstanding is a perfect parallel to the question of whether Linden Labs' actions are the result of internal or external causes.
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05-14-2009 08:45
From: Cato Badger
Your post implied that I was following the orders of Linden Labs, and making a hyperbolically exaggerated analogy to this being the excuse of those accused of war crimes, most famously by the Gestapo. Not specifically mentioning Gestapo or Nazis is not an excuse. Your comments did imply an analogy of them with Linden Labs and me with the Gestapo. That is unacceptable.


Nope, George.. *glares at Phil*
YOU picked up the cap and btw, you wear it well. Badger was a good choice for a Troll's name too.

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05-14-2009 08:50
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Badger was a good choice for a Troll's name too.
Badgers? We don't need no stinking Badgers!
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05-14-2009 08:51
Thank you Paracelsus. You are most kind and no- I did not in any way believe the remarks directed at me.
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05-14-2009 08:56
Here is what we need to take care of badgers.
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05-14-2009 08:56
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Badgers? We don't need no stinking Badgers!


Just for a little while? Then we can badger Badger.

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05-14-2009 09:05
From: Chris Norse
Here is what we need to take care of badgers.

Awww! cute puppy! Pat, pat...
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