The Real Reason Behind LL's Adult Content Changes

They already had the ability to enforce the rules they currently have for search. How exactly is it reasonable to create new rules they're still not going to enforce in the long term?

Okay, now that the legislation thing is going around further in the forums and Linden Lab's danger of closing the doors, I am now STRONGLY supporting this fight. With my future plans still intact, I cannot forget the moment that this happen. Curse you legislation! You are going to wreck my future plans and the rest of the people as well.

Not all of EU..its a misconception by those that don't understand it ....its a bit like having different legislation in different U.S states. EU is made 27 sovereign countries......what's good for Denmark regarding Adult content might not be applicable to U.K. The U.K has a tendancy to follow U.S lead whereas others don't. (We did have the Victorian era after all! )

I'm sure hosting LL servers in say Sweden and abiding to their Internet rulings, would be more liberal than saying having the same servers operating out of the U.K. Although there are lots of common social policies its by no means all. There are still several countries in Europe that are not part of the EU.....like Norway, Switzerland, Iceland, the former Yugoslavian states etc

Well, I think it's two fold, perhaps what's going on in Congress is affecting LL's decision, but I think creating a "Disneyland" environment apart from "Adult Activities" will open up SL to alot of people who might tend to shy away from it because of "what they've heard about what goes on in there".

As a citizen of the United States, I can tell you from direct experience that all 3 branches of government, the legislative, executive, and judicial branches are infested with a bunch of retards.

Think about it. I can Google "horse sex", and 3 clicks later be viewing women performing atrocious acts on a horse. Gay sex, horse sex, bondage, midget porn, fat girls, skinny girls, big boobs, tiny boobs, sex machines, incest, granny porn, hardcore, softcore, scat, all a couple of clicks away from a web browser that's preinstalled on the computer before it's purchased. Getting at adult material on the web is as easy as clicking a stupid button that says "I'm over 18, let me in", and you're in, with completely uncensored sex anywhere, anytime. Even going beyond the web, where else do children go on the internet. IM programs like Yahoo have sex chat rooms, IRC same thing, kids like to use peer to peer stuff like fast track and gnutella (Kazaa and Limewire). Azures (Vuze) as well as a host of other bit torrent systems also offer up porn in full DVD quality.

On the other hand, with Second Life, you have to:

A. Know about SL, which is getting more and more well known, but doesn't begin touch the reach of the web, peer to peer, or bit torrent in terms of 'well-known-ness'

B. Download and install a big client program.

C. Register and create an account.

D. Get in-world and and begin the steep process of learning a complex client program.

E. Find the sex in SL.

F. Convince the people with whom you're interacting with that you're actually an adult (nearly impossible, I can spot a kid avie 4 sims away).

After all that, you can watch cartoons hump each other.... big deal. It's much easier to just browse the 10 gijillion 'tube sex' sites out there.

If I'm a kid out there looking to rub one off... I'm heading for porntube.com and "today's new releases", not jumping through the huge hoops it would take to get my rocks off in SL.

See, like I said, our government is retarded.

I think the ageplay ban was correct...if it involves kid avies with adult avies, regardless whether it was brought to our attention from the Germans or Brits or Americans.
We should not be promoting child sex in any shape or form regardless whether they're 2 consenting adults behind the keyboards.

all kids will have to do is steal dads wallet and get credit number and they are in adult land

One way to get around the issue of increasing censorship of SL and the Internet but cutting down on consumer's viewing porn is by imposing heavy sin taxes on certain content. The idea would be that your average consumer of Internet porn might not want to pay more, or be tracked by their ISP.

Why....millions of people love Porn, if they didn't.....it wouldn't be such a successful & profitable Industry. What about freedom of choice?

Some of the blame for this has got to lie with those businesses that made it nearly impossible, while using Search, to avoid having XXX content thrown in our faces. They overstepped their bounds by clogging up the search mechanism; now the other side is stepping in from the other direction and we are getting caught in the middle.

Agreed, the day being sexual is legislated against is the dawn of another Dark Ages. So long as it is all adult and consenual who's flipping business is it but your own.

Have you noticed it's getting more and more like George Orwell's 1984 way of living?
I know here in London we have more cameras on our streets than any other town/city in Europe. You're be lucky not to be seen dropping a cigarette butt these days.

PS - I would love to see a thread on the new name...

Family Guy has one episode showing the erudite infant Stewie being turned on by getting spanked. Another shows him parading naked around his room, trying to entice Brian's teenage son into a close encounter.

Moral Orel has an episode where he gets a Prince Albert (at age 11). Another has him learning how to masturbate, and then impregnating all the women on his street because it's a sin to waste sperm. (He uses a pastry bag, perhaps to get past the censors. This episode was delayed several months before the network's censors agreed to let it air.)

Granted, none of these show the explicit visual depictions of genitalia that are possible within SL. But few people think this sort of satire encourages the sort of harmful RL behaviors we all hold in contempt. My point is just that blanket generalizations about these things are also wrong.

The other person's inclusion of 'force fantasy' in Second Life among that grouping is also wrongheaded because in actuality it IS fantasy play between two real life CONSENTING adults. Even if the people behind a sexual ageplay depiction are real life consenting adults though, it's wrong on the point it panders to/encourages acts against children, and presents it in a positive light.

Have you noticed it's getting more and more like George Orwell's 1984 way of living?
I know here in London we have more cameras on our streets than any other town/city in Europe. You're be lucky not to be seen dropping a cigarette butt these days.

I've not seen an episode of Family Guy. The little baby with an adult voice always struck me as creepy. Now I'm glad I haven't watched it if it portrays little children in sexual acts of any kind.

SL is perfect for corp. meetings and training.

The only problem is that the lure of sex/porn/insert your particular kink here, is too powerful

A Linden surfaced in the LL Traffic Future group chat the other day.
I ran the classic Places search for "furniture" up the flagpole for anyone to salute.
The purpose was to show blatant 80+ bot farms.
However, even with Mature unchecked, that search also shows in-your-face sex.
That's two blatant violations in one!

LL are doing squat about it.

Makes no sense.

Yeh, I have, it's ****** wrong. I don't mind power given to catch crime, but as usual it's gone off the flipping radar.

Also I think both conservative and liberal both aim for personal freedom and responsibility in their own ways... I think the thought police type **** from 1984 is the religious and the politically correct, both veer to such nut house extremes.

ARd for nonPG language

I see you have toned down some of your language after the previous AR.

You obviously lead an extremely dull life, if you have to spend time mulling over any words or phrases that are not PG in this Forum. It's one thing for Linden employee to censor people.....it's their show after all.....it's another for busy bodies who have no official capacity to go around AR'ing people. I find people like you repulsive.