What are your plans when the "adult content" policy is enforced?

Thank you for your answers.

From your answers, it seems taht only Talarus have somewhat the same feelings than myself.

@RockAndRoll Michigan: Maybe my poor English prevented me to understand your statement. It seems that you will refuse to buy anything from anyone that will not go to Ursula (or a private adult region). See that one of the options that would led me not to go there is if the swap is denied. What could I do in this case? Is it my fault. Am I the one to whom you would drive your rage?

Note, too, that I've never saying anything on the lines of sheating the policy. Note that in item 2a. I said I can remove the "ofending" items or maintain as it is now, risking an AR. I am just listing my options, trying to get the best that I can in the new policy for my own fun/pleasure. I am never thinking how to get any advantage over others creators/store owners.

The "adult" items in my store are from others, creators that don't seel enough to rent a space in a mall, beginners trying to learn. I invite them to put their stuff there for free. Some of the adult creators that sell in my place will not be able to put it in Ursula (if I am considered adult enough to get the swap)

I'm not here to earn money. My sellings hardly pay my tiers 2 out of 3 months. I do like to make stuff, and the best way to see if they are quality ones is to see the reception while selling them (As I've said before, Tato helps me with 2000 a month, the 300 L$ weekly X2 for the two premium accounts sums more 2400 L$ a month, and my 3000 L$ sellings per month close the tiers, but it left the premium cost behind).

Anyway, I am not asking this because of money, but for the experience in SL. As Talarus said, it is hard to fight all the time, trying to enjoy SL. I can say I will not abandon SL in the near future. I've met wonderful people inworld that I'm not prepared to leave them behind. But I do want to have the better enjoyment in SL as I can, and in any option that I choose, I will have a poorer environment than that I had until a month ago (when the Lindens anounced the new policy)
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Sorry people, I'm not in good mood, and probably my English isn't helping to show you my feelings. I am just trying to figure how to loose less in all this mess and, maybe, see that I am not alone

My mainstore will remain as is (mature sim). I just purchased some land in a PG area and am in the process of building a second mainstore there. I will have a rented shop on the adult continent (I don't sell adult items but I know where the money is gonna be )

The reason for the PG store is that I am expecting that some people will be joining SL who will be staying mainly in PG areas.

I'l have to change all my b***** landmarks!

Pep (It will make random sim-hopping more efficient though)

My plans depend on what actually happens, and what my sim owner does in response to that. If I have to, I'll move, without begrudging the sim owner.

I'd hate to be a sim owner having to make the decision. No matter which way you go, it's likely to be bad for someone.

My shop will be adult rated.

For those without adult rating who want my freebies like MLPV2, sit positioner, free sit poses, blues instruments, etc. -- well, too bad; complain to LL, or get the ones that are posted on XStreet. (Or, donate land for my freebies, that would be fine I don't want the expense of a separate shop for my pro-bono work, and I can't post them on my residential land.

No changes. I rent on a private estate which will stay as it is now (mature).

/me wonders if Rha is going to start a Friday thread next week asking "Where have all the Sugar Daddies gone?"

Pep (is still looking for a Sugar Mummy )

Am still unsure if LL are rating sex bed stores as adult...as nearly all my stock uses filtered words to describe its hard to imagine how i can advertise and stay 'legal'. My ticket to LL ignored my query just focusing on how no timescale was yet in place...
I also have a themed hotel which although 'behind closed doors' is available to the public and is openly adult. I don't see why i should lie/game to stay in mature.

My feeling is unless i try and police the place 24/7 which is impossible it is or should be adult following the latest thinking and adult definitions...

I guess i would want a free move if allowed as i suspect/hope the market for my products will be on pornoland. However as half my land holding is beach front rentals which would stay as mature i would lose the prim subsidy from there that i use in my store......I also lose half of the store sitting on rented mainland.

Stores i rent are on mostly future adult private estates, other mall locations if they stick with mature i could live with and modify my displays.

What i certainly can't live with is not being allowed to move then getting AR'ed as the store gets used as a free sex venue..or that noone comes (pardon pun) because i can't accurately advertise and be found whilst those that get moved or can then afford to buy on porno flourish.

It all depends on how the final plan impacts my enjoyment of SL. I don't have land of any sort to worry about, I have PIOF, so I will not Aristotle. If the new rules cause too many hoops or contrivanes, or creates a climate where the fun factor is noticeably diminished, I won't bother.

Exactly. I'd hate to live in a 24/7 sex area but have to beg to go there to simply have the right to publicly swear. It's retarded.

What they should do is GIVE us the same land area on Ursula and let us keep our mature, or if the tier becomes to high for some, then just do a swap.

I wouldn't mind waiting in a line as they built more Ursula if that was the case.

No changes for me.

Apart from losing several of my neighbours from this nice patch of mainland (a bit sad).
And having to update many landmarks soon, I assume (pain in the bum).

And having the concern that despite being mature (there's nothing XXX in my shop to allow me a swap to pornworld, but this is not kiddieland either), I will lose customers who filter their search to adult only. Even if entry is restricted to certified-adults and we continue to live as the adults we are now.

(If we could just search for all mature and adult together, and opt to filter out all pg, I'd be happier. Then my brain couldn't be unpredictably assaulted by offensively cutesy day-glo cartoon critters when I'm feeling all grouchy and needing some "grown-ups-time".)

No changes for me.

No changes for me really, I liquidated some land that I had planned on getting rid of anyway. The announcement made me get on to this a bit quicker than I had planned to just in case prices did crash but to be honest if they did crash, it did not affect me one bit.

My business endeavours are not adult oriented and so I don't expect any problems. If I do need a spot to advertise my "non-adult" products to people who will not venture outside of AO areas then I will address that as it becomes apparent.

Anyone who advertises inworld will have a change if the current proposals are set in stone. You only have one choice for your adverts, it will only appear in that category. So if you are on PG land only those searching for PG find your advert.

If you're on mature then you have a choice to flag your advert as PG or Mature, whichever you choose, only people with that category ticked will find your advert.

So my plan is to ask Linden Lab to make search cumulative and stop this nonsense of PG not appearing when people have a higher search rating ticked.

I agree with what you are proposing Ciaran and hope you manage to get it changed.

However if the current plans go ahead it still does not have to be a 100% disaster. You could have 3 parcels, one to advertise the same products in the PG, Mature and AO areas. Two of them could even come from the same larger plot on regular mainland and the third could be a AO mall rental some place.

Yes it is going to be a bit of a pain but it does not have to be extremely expensive, many people have multiple locations anyway.

Hmmm....predicting people to start dividing off tiny patches in their mainland plots to cover all search options.

Good idea.

Not if they are 128sqm or less - they no longer appear in search apparently. Not sure when this happened but they took away the check box for it in the latest RC. I asked why 128sqm parcels are now excluded and when it was done but got no reply.

No changes for me. I own a small 512 lot where I have my skybox for building. My store is on a private sim, which the powers that be have said won't be affected at all. If they change their mind, I can't think of anything on this island that could be considered Adult.

it's actually rather old, the knowledgebase has stated this for some time. Search/All wasn't bringing up parcels less than 128M anyway, places was but now LL have changed the code to prevent people from listing parcels.

Perhaps they foresaw this, and are making it impossible for micro-shops to spring up everywhere. (Small tangent- I'd really really hate this minimum size to start growing in future.)

Yes it's not the end of the world , it's just irritating. If this all works the way it's supposed to people searching for non PG stuff shouldn't find PG results anyway.

I have no doubt you are correct but does it say why? Also I bet many people don't just trawl the KB for new stuff all the time, was it ever on a blog page or sim software release notes? Really they need to make stuff like this more prominent or how are we going to take issue with some of these stupid ideas?

I doubt they planned this much ahead really, but I agree on not wanting to encourage micro-parcels due to this policy.
I could see a shop spliting into two large areas though.

The whole thing is insanity anyway. Welcome to the asylum, enjoy your stay!

I have not seen a blog entry about it, I have however seen the knowledgebase article:

https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=4722

You're correct, people should not need to trawl the knowledgebase to find this out. I guess LL are at last fixing this but it should be common knowledge.

um... your post makes no sense....

(unless a guy is buying for a girlfriend/wife/partner, or he likes wearing women's clothes, then chances are they won't be shopping at my store)

sometimes you come across as totally clueless when you try to make (what I am guessing) is snide remarks. (still not sure sometimes LOL)

Oh well... *shrug*