login's failing?

I am at work but am hearing of this, so taking it from the status page this has been going on all day. wowza maybe it's time to go back to down wednesdays and they have a few days to get the kinks out. think it worked better that way

Sighs by now i watched a complete movie and still cant login

i dont get it tho, if the have these things, why not logging evryone off, restarts all servers and let it run again , then there wil be only the problem of allot of users connecting at once, but even that is whats now hapening annyway, and im sure this wil only hickup for about 20min and evryting is back to normal... no what there doing now is let servers hickup for hours leaving evryone off, LL you have someting thats BIG rewrite logins servers, assetss servers to handle this all , if i read status.secondlifegrid.com evryday its alwayse someting going on, stop working on vieuwer for while 1.21.6 is stable and start working on other servers or devnelop a new way to login and to handle things

just my 2cents while im probl going to watch another movie now

Sounds like a good plan but if my memory serves me right they run an active database that cant be shutdown. Will have to find where I saw that at.

I'm in... I was on the login screen for over 20 minutes..but did finally make it through the door..haven't left home yet thou, so I'm not sure if it was worth logging in...

what way of coding is that that it cant be shutdown or restarted
nothing can run indefently..., tho would like to read that post if you can find it please

There actually is no such thing as a database that cannot be shut down. There are databases that will cost the companies millions and billions if they do shut down, so they pay tons to have all sort of redundancy in every aspect of their IT infrastructure -- but all servers, applications, databases, etc... can still be shut down.

I am sick of people complaining about the servers.

Just like everything else in the world there are going to be problems.. but unlike things that have nothing to do with the internet they won't be as bad (so to speak).

Imagine having 100 people lined up and they are all trying to carry a load of 1,000 pounds on them at once.. passing it between them. The same goes with a server. Sooner or later one is going to start failing because the load is to much/heavy to handle. At that time there will be problems threw out the entire system because of that one server/person.

With 50k of residents teleporting, buying things, rezzing things, playing with things, hanging out, logging in and out... doing whatever we all do within the grid that is allot of pressure on the servers.

Its not perfect and you can't expect it to be perfect 100% of the time.

connecting to region....

and im in

However the servers need to cope with that, that's what people do. I think most reasonable people accept that sometimes things break, or that there's a need for downtime but if the servers aren't capable of supporting the userbase, it's unfair to blame users.

Tips on how users can reduce load would be most welcome, as long as they're not presented in a finger pointing way, we've had enough of that with ARC and Openspaces.

i know and before i got crached and all hapening there where 72k online (acording to start page) now down to 30k and yet it still not stable again, now i know theres lots of load on these servers i can understand that, and now what it is but yet like i sayd before why not just restart the servers or whatever server is cousing this problem and kick evryone off to
i know of sim that has 50BOTS on eatch sim on it (2sims) that counts alreyd for 100bots emagene rest of it....

Got one at work here that can not be shutdown or it looses everything. This is not a typical setup. it uses ram instead of harddrive and is very very nice I think the lindens might employ some of that too but with NAS'S to backup concurrent info.

Actually a very large number of us work in IT and we know about proper design to manage load and growth and many of us have seen LL fail in this over and over and over again. Sorry, but the activity that goes on in SL is nothing compared to the amount of financial traffic that happens on some servers and networks, so it can be managed.

There are a few that are set to use RAM like that (one of the Oracle versions does it). But there are also ways of taking backups and being able to restore them.

If any business truly depends on a database that really cannot ever go down, they deserve to fail.


ETA - LL uses MySQL on Linux servers. That was posted in an article quite a while ago.

it's the weekend..lindens take the weekends off like the rest of us..it'll be fine tomorrow

Ummmmm - tomorrow is a holiday for many of us -- MLK Jr day.


So, we are screwed

oh ya i forgot ..then i think obama day is tuesdays..
soo00ooo
it'll be fine wedsnday

I AM IN! Wooooooooooooooooooooooo! Going off to loot and pillage the grid before everybody gets back!

It COULD be managed... if they replaced a few lindens and got rid of the tao of linden ... today being a great example of how well the tao works lol

stillll can't log on....whyyyyyyyyy

I'm sure plenty of people are sick of apologists for Linden Lab as well.
So basically you're saying sh!t happens. Not particularly informative or insightful. Look the bottom line is people pay for a service and it's an understatement to say that it has been subpar as of late. While it is understandable that Linden Lab can't just pull out a magic wand and fix technical problems when they pop up, it's equally understandable that people who pay Linden Lab tier directly or indirectly are upset, and taking a patronizing, unsympathetic and self righteous attitude towards SL residents isn't going to win any arguments or persuade anyone about anything.
No one claimed to expect perfection or anything even close to it. What percentage is acceptable for a technology service provider? It seems here that it is close to if not dipping into the double digits in terms of percentage when service is defective and unreliable. I can't think of any of the more traditional service providers that could remain economically viable with those kinds of numbers (ISP, telecommunications, cable, or even MMORPG publishers for that matter - we've seen many of those perish based on less dismal performances). Linden Lab only gets away with it because there is no other competition but the fact that its performance fails to comport to other service providers is naturally going to put people off.

OMG .. what are these strange graphics on my screen? Oh my it’s SL !!! finally in after three hours of trying …

I think the lindens need to put a crack down on the bots.. because it does hurt us "real" players.

It isn't as easy as it sounds to just restart something LoL

augh.................

cause You didnt tryyy it haaaard enough
and only a few hundert managed to log in since the last somelike half hour.