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Avawyn Muircastle
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12-23-2008 18:16
From: Rhaorth Antonelli did you actually go in world and try the steps I outlined?
If you did you would see that it doesn't give you an option for "legs" it tells you which body parts you can "create"
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unless of course your post was tongue in cheek, acting stupid kind of thing...
and yes, I will be holding classes, after the holidays, 4 days a week (part of my job in SL) (not my store, but my job at avatar island) No, I was serious about legs cuz you said body parts in your original post. I'm not a mind reader! I was serious, and I was also serious about whether SL For Dummies is a good book or not? I haven't had time to fix all the other stuff that needs fixing due to the holidays. I have a long list of things that need fixin'.
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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12-23-2008 18:31
From: Macphisto Angelus does anyone happen to know why people would repost something already posted above? I have no idea, but it's a very good question. I'm surprised this issue hasn't been discussed previously.
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12-23-2008 18:40
From: SuezanneC Baskerville I have no idea, but it's a very good question. I'm surprised this issue hasn't been discussed previously. Just to clarify what Suezanne has said: she doesn't know why people would repost something that was posted previously *in the same thread* but she thinks the question itself is valid. The fact that *no one* has brought this issue up before has surprised her.
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Osprey Therian
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12-23-2008 18:53
From: Avawyn Muircastle No, I was serious about legs cuz you said body parts in your original post. I'm not a mind reader!

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Cynster Clowes
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12-23-2008 20:51
I liked the second answer better. I don't think it's a bad thing to have a few answers. That way you can pick the most relevant and easy to understand :3 I also don't take offense when people answer after me, and I answer after other people without a thought that it might be offensive. 
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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12-23-2008 21:10
From: Cynster Clowes I liked the second answer better. I don't think it's a bad thing to have a few answers. That way you can pick the most relevant and easy to understand :3 I also don't take offense when people answer after me, and I answer after other people without a thought that it might be offensive.  and what made the second answer any better than the first?
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Macphisto Angelus
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12-23-2008 21:17
From: Osprey Therian Just to clarify what Suezanne has said: she doesn't know why people would repost something that was posted previously *in the same thread* but she thinks the question itself is valid. The fact that *no one* has brought this issue up before has surprised her. True. But I read her post more like she doesn't know why someone would repost something that was already posted in the same thread. I think she is feeling the question itself is valid though. Also the fact that nobody has ever pointed this out before is surprising to Suzanne. I am sorry this happened to her. 
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Celeste Azalee
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12-24-2008 00:28
Thank you everyone! I got the info I needed and a giggle to boot! Seriously though, sometimes different writing styles are easier to follow, so reiterated instructions do help to emphasize what needs doing. I'm grateful for all the help I can get in SL! It's a worry actually, starting out on such established and extensive forums - I searched on my question topic, but didn't come out with useful results. I knew someone would have asked my question before, but there's just so much info posted, it's overwhelming! I've already got those slider stats on paper, so I'm going to scuttle off now and try some new shapes... Happy Holidays to all! P.S. I think I'll leave the legs well alone! 
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Dekka Raymaker
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12-24-2008 01:29
the only reason I can see to post the same reply in the future is to really annoy Rhaorth
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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12-24-2008 01:33
From: Dekka Raymaker the only reason I can see to post the same reply in the future is to really annoy Rhaorth and it is obvious that you are not the only one with those thoughts rather sad that folks feel the need to do something that knowingly may bother another individual, especially when considering the season we are all supposed to be celebrating. I would be lying if I said that none of it bothered me, cuz it did... it felt like a slap in the face each time someone mocked what I had to say... very sad.... very very sad... 
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Osprey Therian
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12-24-2008 02:27
From: Rhaorth Antonelli and it is obvious that you are not the only one with those thoughts rather sad that folks feel the need to do something that knowingly may bother another individual, especially when considering the season we are all supposed to be celebrating. I would be lying if I said that none of it bothered me, cuz it did... it felt like a slap in the face each time someone mocked what I had to say... very sad.... very very sad...  Speaking just for myself, I wasn't mocking you at all. I've had exactly the same thing bother me just a little bit as it made me feel like my communications skills must be lacking if someone felt the need to reiterate. No, I was making fun of the repetitive posting by posting repetitively. Cheer up - nothing was intended as a personal attack.
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Pserendipity Daniels
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12-24-2008 04:22
I've said it before and I will say it again: It's a waste of time repeating things in this forum.
Pep (If people didn't understand it the first time around why should they get it the second time?)
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Czari Zenovka
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12-24-2008 10:22
Sheesh, now I feel like I should just never post anything until I've read the entire thread, which can sometimes get lengthy.
I didn't realize this was such a huge issue. I've had LOTS of people answer a question I previously answered and didn't think much of it.
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Amaranthim Talon
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12-24-2008 10:38
From: Czari Zenovka Sheesh, now I feel like I should just never post anything until I've read the entire thread, which can sometimes get lengthy.
I didn't realize this was such a huge issue. I've had LOTS of people answer a question I previously answered and didn't think much of it. Me points you to the Define Alt thread where we have overdone that too /327/70/299098/1.htmlIn other words- meh- bigger things one can find to get annoyed at so don't let it get to you - answer away 
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12-24-2008 17:32
From: Czari Zenovka Sheesh, now I feel like I should just never post anything until I've read the entire thread, which can sometimes get lengthy.
I didn't realize this was such a huge issue. I've had LOTS of people answer a question I previously answered and didn't think much of it. Oh, it's not really much of an issue. I think I am bothered a bit when someone posts the same answer after me, then the OP thanks that person - mainly because I'm aware of how rotten my communication skills are and I try hard to make sense (but don't, apparently).
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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12-24-2008 17:58
It bugs me when I give an answer and while I'm writing it I think, hey, this would be much much nicer looking if I took the time and trouble to write the steps each on a separate line, with numbers, but I'm too lazy to do it, and even so it takes a long time, perhaps researching something in the wiki or some such, and I post, and then someone posts a well formatted response, and I get a zero on my report card instead of the C that deserved.
It also bugs me when I take the time to provide a four paragraph response and then someone figures out how to make a response that's just as useful in a few words. Darn those concise people, darn them to heck!
(Hee hee, darn them to heck, that's so delightfully euphemistic.)
Dear lord, did I actually spell euphemistic correctly, or is my spell checker broken?
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Qie Niangao
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12-24-2008 19:15
From: SuezanneC Baskerville It also bugs me when I take the time to provide a four paragraph response and then someone figures out how to make a response that's just as useful in a few words. Darn those concise people, darn them to heck! Heh. Darn *you*, then: I can't count the number of times I've previewed one of my notoriously verbose replies only to discover you've just posted, conveying the same information in a crisp line or two.
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Pserendipity Daniels
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12-25-2008 05:13
From: Czari Zenovka Sheesh, now I feel like I should just never post anything until I've read the entire thread, which can sometimes get lengthy. You wouldn't be the only one not to read an entire thread before commenting. Pep (Lots of people don't seem to read - or maybe they fail to understand - any of the previous posts)
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Olila Oh
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12-25-2008 14:06
From: Pserendipity Daniels There is a cultural barrier, sorry, Olila. It is a joke. A play on words. Because the Irish use the phrase "To be sure".
And I won't say anything more about IQ or EQ because I don't want to get into trouble (which I have done before) because people think I am rude to foreigners who don't understand the nuances of my posts.
Pep (It is the difference between English as a first language and English as a foreign language)  No problem, Pep! I was actually writing my post to make a point about that not everyone here knows what u are joking about... And I like jokes! About the IQ/EQ comment of mine - I just made it to provoke a little...  Most of the time I have no problems getting what ppl mean inhere (Sweden is really 'Americanised') - but it might actually be really hard for others. From: Key MacMoragh Sometimes repeating things is a habit of speech, and Pep's saying that Irish people tend to do this. So it's a cute joke about the repetition in this thread... and a way of saying that repetition is natural, since the Irish are the most natural and unaffected people on Earth. Thanks for a great explanation. I see! It was a really funny joke, then! 
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Hana Timtam
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12-26-2008 02:30
From: Rhaorth Antonelli and what made the second answer any better than the first? i love when people answer questions in several different ways. Sometimes one set of instructions "clicks" better to me than another set. i personally found your steps easy to follow, but Olila also added information your reply didn't. Like offering "why" another creators name (or "unknown"  was in the creator field rather than the OPs. Olila also explained that if you'd have to write all the numbers down of a shape that you modified and do the steps both you and her had already stated.. in order for a shape "without OP's name as creator" to be able to now have OP's Name as creator. <err.. i probably didn't explain that last bit right> i also agree with this: From: Amity Slade Sometimes, it's not so bad if several people answer with the exact same answer. That is evidence of consensus upon the answer, and makes it more trustworthy.
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Pserendipity Daniels
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12-26-2008 02:49
From: Olila Oh  No problem, Pep! I was actually writing my post to make a point about that not everyone here knows what u are joking about... And I like jokes! About the IQ/EQ comment of mine - I just made it to provoke a little... Most of the time I have no problems getting what ppl mean inhere (Sweden is really 'Americanised') - but it might actually be really hard for others. Thanks for a great explanation. I see! It was a really funny joke, then!  Don't worry - even those with English as a first language have problems understanding me. Pep (and get even more annoyed when I point out their deficiencies!)
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Phil Deakins
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12-26-2008 04:39
Imo, it's a rudeness (sort of) for someone to knowingly write a reply that has already been given by someone else, but not if it isn't done knowingly. I do it when I read a post, in a thread of several pages, that I want to reply to while it's fresh in my mind - before other posts divert my mind. I know my answer may already have been given in later posts, but I write it anyway. I also do it occasionally in new threads, when I'm not the only one writing a reply at the time. I can certainly understand Rha's thinking because of the time difference between the posts. From: Avawyn Muircastle No, I was serious about legs cuz you said body parts in your original post. I'm not a mind reader! (with an exclamation mark to emphasise that you're not a mind-reader) So it's strange how you often expect everyone else to be mind-readers when, for example, you write serious statements that you later claim to have been jokes but had no indication of being jokes, and statements that you later claim to have meant something a little different to what you actually wrote - even after arguing them for a while. Strange indeed.
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Hana Timtam
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12-26-2008 05:00
From: Phil Deakins Imo, it's a rudeness (sort of) for someone to knowingly write a reply that has already been given by someone else, but not if it isn't done knowingly. Really? So if i'm a stranger or new person to the forums (or SL), and i ask a question, i should "trust" that the first person to answer me is giving me the correct answer? Even though i have no idea who the first poster is.. nor if they are giving me accurate information? No additional people should respond with similar answers (assuring me, the new person) that \yes\ this is the correct answer and \yes\ that is the general consensus of the people? To me multiple similar answers are like "Poll the Audience/Ask the Audience" in "Who wants to be a Millionaire" (that tv show). They poll the whole audience for a general consensus. It's nice to see many people give the same answer about something... At least to me.. when i ask a question, and many people give me the same answer, i feel more confident in the response. ... Is it rude if you give a "nod" to the original correct answerer? Like if you say "I know ____ already said this, I just wanted to say those are the steps"..? Is it rude if you say "I know someone else might have responded with the correct answer already (I haven't read through the whole thread) but __________"
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Phil Deakins
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12-26-2008 05:10
Imo, yes. From: Hana Timtam So if i'm a stranger or new person to the forums (or SL), and i ask a question, i should "trust" that the first person to answer me is giving me the correct answer? Even though i have no idea who the first poster is.. nor if they are giving me accurate information? Your reply in the other thread was perfect - "I agree" is a perfect way to confirm what somebody wrote, and even better if it adds more information, or clarifies something, as was done in this thread with one of Suzanne's posts.
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Czari Zenovka
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12-26-2008 10:20
From: Phil Deakins Imo, it's a rudeness (sort of) for someone to knowingly write a reply that has already been given by someone else, but not if it isn't done knowingly. I do it when I read a post, in a thread of several pages, that I want to reply to while it's fresh in my mind - before other posts divert my mind. I never knowingly write the same reply but I often do the second: reply while the post is fresh in my mind - especially if I have limited time or the thread is long, etc. Maybe someone should write a "Robert's Rules of Forum Posting." I nominate Pep. 
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