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Talarus Luan
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Join date: 18 Mar 2006
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02-15-2008 02:10
From: Colette Meiji
I have a feeling some of the real problem areas will get lost in the AR noise.


No, because the vast majority of the "problem areas" are the ones generating the most ARs, because they are the same small group of assholes who have been doing this for a while.

UH and RM are two of the worst ones, in a group of about 10 of them. Come by the Ad Zoo in Zap Cannon sometime; I think we have the "dirty dozen" pretty much covered, and I figure they are the subject of around 99% of the ARs.
Tasrill Sieyes
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Join date: 6 Nov 2005
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02-15-2008 02:45
From: Chris Norse
Because they are judging aesthetics with this policy. They are also saying that there is a "fair and reasonable" price for land instead of letting the market set the fair price. We are now over the edge of the slippery slope, it is not going to be pretty when we hit bottom. Now it is banning ugly builds built to make a profit, how long before it is ugly builds in general?


So in other words you wish to protect the free market of sl by hurting the free market of sl verses virtual worlds buy telling ll "let them fill it with crap that is what the free market wants." Isn't that like going into a MMORPG and cheating the hell out of the system and not fixing the bugs but waiting for the community to 'ballance out to the market fluctuations of the 'power/time/money' equation of leveling and killing. Which i have never seen end in a good way the few times i've actualy seen it happen. You are only left with the abusers and the casuals and others leave for greener pastures.

And yes they are still equivilent becasue sl and mmorpgs are both fighting for the same demographic of people wanting entertainment online. And the free marked of mmo's has clearly spoken on that they want there owners to regulate what is and isn't alowed to be done on a system. And the larger free market always wins over the smaller free market.
John Horner
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02-15-2008 03:09
From: Marianne McCann
I don't bother to look at them, cuz the chances of them actually having something I would want are virtually nil.

Mari


Agreed. I don't need to read any more no disrespect intended to other posters

Can I also add to that I would:

1) Almost never click on an ad within SL that would take me outside because of the risk of my machine being infected (I don't place a high degree of faith in SL software or its links to any Internet browser)

b) I use search within SL (in particular paid search) as there is a far higher chance the link will take me to what I am seeking.

c) I believe virtual worlds should be primarily for FUN and entertainment, NOT a 3D extension of my junk email box. With a fair reward for content creators, and Island/mainland owners who rent out land, and an acceptance of the need for mainland land barons wholesale/retail

d) If I want to buy an online service outside of SL I search using Google

e) Ad farms are UGLY and in many cases are set up to extort stupid amounts of real life money from folk who just want to enjoy SL
Chris Norse
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Join date: 1 Oct 2006
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02-15-2008 05:51
From: Tasrill Sieyes
So in other words you wish to protect the free market of sl by hurting the free market of sl verses virtual worlds buy telling ll "let them fill it with crap that is what the free market wants." Isn't that like going into a MMORPG and cheating the hell out of the system and not fixing the bugs but waiting for the community to 'ballance out to the market fluctuations of the 'power/time/money' equation of leveling and killing. Which i have never seen end in a good way the few times i've actualy seen it happen. You are only left with the abusers and the casuals and others leave for greener pastures. And yes they are still equivilent becasue sl and mmorpgs are both fighting for the same demografic of people wanting entertainment online. And the free marked of mmo's has clearly spoken on that they want there owners to regulate what is and isn't alowed to be done on a system. And the larger free market always wins over the smaller free market.



There are things in writing called paragraphs, they are your friend.
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Treacly Brodsky
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Join date: 23 Jul 2004
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02-15-2008 09:05
From: Chris Norse
There are things in writing called paragraphs, they are your friend.


An English drama next you'll be calling me out on an Oxford comma. :eek:


edit: Oops just noticed that wasn't aimed at me. Concept still applies.
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Tasrill Sieyes
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02-15-2008 18:43
From: Chris Norse
There are things in writing called paragraphs, they are your friend.


So attack the person not the idea. Not the strongest debating position I have seen. I'll put int he paragraph break and let us try this again with you acutally responding to what I said.
Colette Meiji
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02-15-2008 19:55
From: Tasrill Sieyes
So attack the person not the idea. Not the strongest debating position I have seen. I'll put int he paragraph break and let us try this again with you acutally responding to what I said.



Well in Chris' defense its hard to either attack or agree with an idea if you have trouble reading what that idea is.
Raymond Figtree
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02-15-2008 21:24
From: Tasrill Sieyes
So attack the person not the idea. Not the strongest debating position I have seen. I'll put int he paragraph break and let us try this again with you acutally responding to what I said.
Also, you mispelled versus, balance, equivalent, because and demographic, plus used the word "there" when you meant "their".

I point this out to you merely to be a dickwad. How did I do?
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Talarus Luan
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02-15-2008 21:37
From: Raymond Figtree
Also, you mispelled versus, balance, equivalent, because and demographic, plus used the word "there" when you meant "their".

I point this out to you merely to be a dickwad. How did I do?


Yes, but only you, Raymond, can misspell "misspelled"...

It's in your contract, you see... :D
Trout Recreant
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Join date: 24 Jul 2007
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02-15-2008 22:12
From: Raymond Figtree
Also, you mispelled versus, balance, equivalent, because and demographic, plus used the word "there" when you meant "their".

I point this out to you merely to be a dickwad. How did I do?
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I give you a solid 9.4. Correcting sentence structure followed by correcting spelling. That's bad. The snarky response and obvious intent to be a dickwad. You really can't do much better. Good effort. Your history indicates that you aren't even close to being a dickwad, so this effort deserves an A. You stepped up in class and excelled. Congratulations and shame on you.
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Raymond Figtree
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02-15-2008 22:35
From: Trout Recreant
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I give you a solid 9.4. Correcting sentence structure followed by correcting spelling. That's bad. The snarky response and obvious intent to be a dickwad. You really can't do much better. Good effort. Your history indicates that you aren't even close to being a dickwad, so this effort deserves an A. You stepped up in class and excelled. Congratulations and shame on you.
LOLL

Whoops. Do I get bonus points for misspelling an acronymn?
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Lota Lyon
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02-16-2008 05:42
I find it hard to believe an ad farmer makes money selling advertising. I, like several earlier posters NEVER pay any attention to such ads. Even when such advertising was places on a couple of 16m2’s at the SW corner of the land my club was on, and I erected two horribly ugly walls to block it from my view, I didn’t pay any attention to the actual ads! BTW, the ads disappeared a couple of days later and never returned.

IMHO ad farms, at least the majority of them, have only one purpose. That is to exhort an inflated sales price from adjacent litigate land owners. Otherwise why list them for sale at prices like $L25/sq-m or more, when litigate parcels are selling or have recently sold for 1/2 of that or less?

I know this probably won’t be a popular idea and I apologize if it strikes anyone the wrong way but... I personally think LL should go one step further in their up coming battle with ad farmers and ban the use of land bots also. In my over 1 1/2 years in SL I’ve bought/owned around 22 or so 512sq’s in 4 different mainland Sims and bought it all via the “Land for Sale” in “Search”. Never did it take me more than an hour or so to find land that met the criteria I had for purchasing it.

Again IMHO, land bots only exasperate the ad farmer problem and were a major factor in the horribly inflated land prices we saw last summer. When I sold the last of my land in December 07 all 8 of the remaining 512sq parcels sold were bought within seconds of placing them for sale by a bot, and my per sq price wasn’t the “deal of the century” either!

Just my 2 cents worth and please don’t worry about giving me change back :p
Trout Recreant
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02-16-2008 10:18
From: Raymond Figtree
LOLL

Whoops. Do I get bonus points for misspelling an acronymn?


Make it a 9.5
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Raymond Figtree
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02-16-2008 10:41
From: Lota Lyon


Again IMHO, land bots only exasperate the ad farmer problem and were a major factor in the horribly inflated land prices we saw last summer. When I sold the last of my land in December 07 all 8 of the remaining 512sq parcels sold were bought within seconds of placing them for sale by a bot, and my per sq price wasn’t the “deal of the century” either!
No, but you did set the land for lower than the lowest land available on the list at the time, otherwise it would have taken longer and been bought by a human.
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Annabelle Babii
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02-16-2008 13:17
TL;DR

and the thread title deoesn't really give an indication of content...the OP is like walking in mid-conversation.
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