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Slanderer!

I haven't been participating in this thread but I can say from an outsider trying to read in....I'm confused as hell.

remember Gambling?

And banking?

and Ageplay?

And the complaint threads that resulted from the bans?

This is one of those, except about Ad Farms.

The next of these threads will feature a complaint that Ad Farms are banned but Cyber-Prostitution is still allowed.

You mean...

this isn't fair...

this is a way around it...

I wonder if we can still have ad farms if we still do this...

and most importantly...

the sky is falling

One of those threads?

Yep - one and the same.

What we get to see now is if the ad farmers are as entertaining as the gambling and ageplay folks.

I hope so.

The banking ban complainers were lame.

Isn't it funny that LL is asking the community to AR the grief cutters? Wouldn't it be much more efficient to dedicate 1 or 2 lindens to actually comb the grid for such activity and be proactive about this w/o going through all the false positives of AR's??? I knew I'd get flamed for all this, I knew people would make false claims against me but, know this... If LL really and I mean really wanted this all gone they would take it upon themselves and make sure the job gets done right.

Seems to me it would be easier to scan the map for the cut areas and simply go there and rectify the situations. Once the offending items are identified, they could run a script to kill any other identical objects, rapidly eliminating the problem. Asking the community to go on a witch hunt to send AR's could allow them to whitewash the problem while making examples of only a few; Meanwhile letting the cash continue to roll in from the remainder.

Except that they always use the AR-your-neighbor system for everything they ban.

Wait! Who's compaining? I thought this was Hegelian Dialectic.

Maybe I'm just cookoo but doesn't that seem inefficient

probably not - but they seem attached to that system.

They want to use it for Adult content if they ever actually impose the planned Age Verification also.

So, I'm not saying that AR's cannot work, just that they should be used in conjunction with more efficient means.

Guess this way they can say they are only responding to the community.

Even if it is only the tattletale part of the community.

Dear Ms. Meiji:

Any further unsubstantiated and libelous character assasination against my client will be considered grounds for legal acti...

Oh screw it. I don't have the energy for a really great attorney hate mail letter, even though they make me laugh hysterically. I'm sleepy from being up all night pre-ARing ad farms.

Treacly: The judge WAS necessary for the joke, which you missed, but since you brought up a specific legal concept, it was appropriate anyway. Calling Har's post "slander" is an outlandish exaggeration to the point of being comical. It's like calling the fire department to put out the candles on a birthday cake. He wasn't even close to slander with ANYTHING he said in that post.

Next you'll be accusing us of being a big clique and a bunch of neo-fascists who can't think for ourselves or speak our minds. That's the way these threads tend to go.

Uh, Trout.....we are.

Very interesting you would quote the un-obvious in lieu of the obvious. And about my remaining parcels, why would I mention them If I felt in danger? You can think what you want of me but only LL can look at the logs.

Hmm well, they may indeed do just that. Remember how the gambling enforcement happened - the next day the Lindens were closing clubs and returning games like mad; I doubt they waited to process a bunch of ARs to do that. But I agree with others who've said that this is LL's general process: they don't police, they let the residents AR what bothers them.

One thing that struck me about the blog post was that I felt Jack Linden stressed that we should expect this program to be adjusted as time goes on. I think Lindens who have been sitting in meetings with residents about this are well aware that ad cutters may adopt other strategies to obtain the same goals, and it sounds to me like LL is positioning themselves for further action that they cannot necessarily predict.

So no, I don't see any risk of this spreading to LL reacting to ARs about simple "ugly builds". This action is about real estate prices, not aesthetics.

They've certainly been surveying opinions about zoning, but they are clearly not ready to pull that trigger yet. ANd even then, I would be surprised to see any policy from LL on aesthetics at all.

While I am no lawyer; Last time I checked, extortion is a serious offense. Furthermore, to state that somebody has the intentions of extortion, while it is not case, would most likely be considered slander.

LL doesn't want to be in the business of legislating aesthetics, and they've said as much, so I think the slippery slope argument is a bit of a red herring. I don't see the move to ban ad farms intended to extort people into buying overpriced land as a bad thing, nor one that will be particularly hard for LL to manage, or legitimate advertisers to avoid being mistaken for. It's very simple. If an advertiser is trying to run a legitimate business then there's no reason for them to have the land for sale. If they decide they want to get rid of a plot of land they can simply remove the ads and put the land up for sale at a reasonable price. If they really want to be nice they can contact the owners of neighboring parcels and notify them of their intent to sell. If the land is clean at that point and the price is fair then no one has cause to AR them. Where exactly is the problem?

Perhaps it helps give them an idea of how widespread a "popular outcry" really is beyond the relative handful who get on their soapbox on the forums.

When was the last time you checked? Was it in conjunction with your ad-cutting business that you have allegedly "reformed"? Pot, meet kettle.



Wrong.

OMG Chip, your comments on this subject are always fair and logical. Not only that, but more importantly they are always so simple and never complicated. I love it that you always make it clear what an easy problem this is to resolve. I am amazed how difficult people make it.

Chill out Trout your starting to sound like a flying Dutch cowboy vampire zombie lawyer. And the countdown to thread lock.

Thread lock?

I take it you've been gone awhile.

Blech. The last thing I want to sound like is a (shudder) lawyer! Thanks for the heads up. I'll go back to being a respectable Irish/Dutch, vampire, zombie, bi-plane crashing, slut rating, lunk-headed degenerate. I'd hate to have to call my mom and tell her I got caught practicing law!