Apart from the basic detail of my time zone, which is a matter of practical convenience, I generally keep RL out of SL. I have no big secrets. I just don't see the point.
I don't bother with the profile box much at all and I long since gave up reading other people's profiles owing to an excess of bull that severely compromised my will to continue socialising in SL. I think the last one I looked at quoted that creepy Demi Moore/Deepak Chopra record.
Jesus.
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Ephraim Kappler
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02-25-2009 08:48
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Briana Dawson
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02-25-2009 08:56
I love reading profiles. Some are empty, some are locations only, and others tell something about the person from a little to a lot. I find profiles worth reading, especially when talking to someone who cares enough to detail out their profile so you can know a little bit more about them.
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Bunni Menizah
Bunni Foo foo
Join date: 4 Dec 2008
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02-25-2009 09:04
Yeah I list 1st Life info in my profile...and noone hassles me. But I also don't do any sort of role playing or use any kind of avatar other than a human female.....which is what I am IRL. I don't try to blur the lines with others in SL for any reason.....I am pretty much just me. So.....the only kinds of people that I really form any kind of connections with.......have a similar agenda. They are not in SL to 'play games'. I think as soon as people jump into any kind of character mode......and become willing to role play in any form........then that invites others to 'play' as well. Only some people have really hard time keeping RL and SL seperate and.....well...... things can get out of hand. I think the biggest reason that I don't experience any 'drama' in SL.....is because I don't treat it like a second life. I don't have a partner....I don't throw on a bunny suit and goof off with other like characters.....I don't get 'involved' in any depthe in the social dynamic. I stick to my art/photography......and I meet some really cool genuine folks that way. So......I don't think your RL info on your profile has anything to do with the behavior your describing from others...... I think it has yo do with the fact that it 'conflicts' with what you do in SL.....so maybe people just see you as fair game for messing with cause you're already messing with yourSLself.  /me raises an eyebrow. "Wow, you really just assumed a whole lot about me, now didn't you?" Thanks for your responses everyone.  _____________________
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Ephraim Kappler
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02-25-2009 09:11
I find profiles worth reading, especially when talking to someone who cares enough to detail out their profile so you can know a little bit more about them. Nah. I'd never hand out my cv just to facilitate conversation. |
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Brenda Connolly
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02-25-2009 09:17
Apart from the basic detail of my time zone, which is a matter of practical convenience, I generally keep RL out of SL. I have no big secrets. I just don't see the point. I don't bother with the profile box much at all and I long since gave up reading other people's profiles owing to an excess of bull that severely compromised my will to continue socialising in SL. I think the last one I looked at quoted that creepy Demi Moore/Deepak Chopra record. Jesus. Same here. I got tired of reading sappy poetry or New Age drivel about the wonders of SL as well as the "Mess with my clan and I'll come to your house and kill your dog" nonsense from people who in the next paragraph say how they like to socialize and make friends......  I don't read profiles upon meeting anyone anymore, to me it's a bit shallow to have to need to know that information just to say hello, but to each his own, we've had the profile discussion in depth a few times already. I may look at it after any extended conversation has developed, just to see some basic info, but that's about it. I keep mine sparse as well. _____________________
Don't you ever try to look behind my eyes. You don't want to know what they have seen.
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Briana Dawson
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02-25-2009 09:17
I think the biggest reason that I don't experience any 'drama' in SL.....is because I don't treat it like a second life. I don't have a partner....I don't throw on a bunny suit and goof off with other like characters.....I don't get 'involved' in any depthe in the social dynamic. I stick to my art/photography......and I meet some really cool genuine folks that way. Your world, Your Imagination. Drama has nothing to do with the things you listed. Keeping things shallow is for people who don't want real friends. Getting involved in some depth in the social dynamic is a choice and meeting people involved in your field of interests is good. But i kinda find it hard to see anything genuine happening when one does not want to 'get involved in any depth in the social dynamic', after all, it is that social dynamic that lets us know that the person we are dealing with is really cool and genuine, or not. _____________________
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Briana Dawson
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02-25-2009 09:21
Nah. I'd never hand out my cv just to facilitate conversation. I would not either. Good thing you can't put that much info in the 1st Life tab or people would be using it to hand out their CV. Calling any info about yourself into your profile a "cv" is rather extreme and nonsensical. You hate profile reading and you hate using them. It is understood quite clearly.  _____________________
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Briana Dawson
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02-25-2009 09:23
Same here. I got tired of reading sappy poetry or New Age drivel about the wonders of SL as well as the "Mess with my clan and I'll come to your house and kill your dog" nonsense from people who in the next paragraph say how they like to socialize and make friends...... Of all the people i avoid, it is the people who talk about retaliatory actions for messing with their "friends and family" and about how tough they are. This is SL, that sort of tripe is useless here and does nothing but say "i will blow up your IMs with drama if you piss me off" when it comes to that person. _____________________
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Bunni Menizah
Bunni Foo foo
Join date: 4 Dec 2008
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02-25-2009 09:26
Your world, Your Imagination. I agree whole heartedly. And what is this 'cv' everyone is talking about? I got lost.... _____________________
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Ceera Murakami
Texture Artist / Builder
Join date: 9 Sep 2005
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02-25-2009 09:27
You may want to simply add a statement to the effect that "My avatar is not a copy of my Player. We are different in many ways. Do not assume my Player is just like my Avatar."
I used to have a disclaimer in all my profiles that the Avatar was a fictional creation, and that one could not assume that any similarities exist between my Avatar and my real self, especially things like gender, species, sexual orientation or behaviors that they participate in. Now, I only go into that if someone makes a pass at me in-world that I feel like responding positively to. Then they get a notecard that explains quite bluntly that any "relations" between my avatar and theirs must be accepted as a fictional encounter for mutual enjoyment, and not as any accurate reflection on the actual gender, orientation, tastes and interests of the players at the keyboards. If they can't accept that my avatar is a fictional character, and that my Player will never offer more than Platonic friendship, they won't get any kind of relationship with my avatar. _____________________
Sorry, LL won't let me tell you where I sell my textures and where I offer my services as a sim builder. Ask me in-world.
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Ceera Murakami
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02-25-2009 09:28
I agree whole heartedly. And what is this 'cv' everyone is talking about? I got lost.... Carriculum Vitae = CV = your Resume, as in for a job application.... _____________________
Sorry, LL won't let me tell you where I sell my textures and where I offer my services as a sim builder. Ask me in-world.
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Bunni Menizah
Bunni Foo foo
Join date: 4 Dec 2008
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02-25-2009 09:31
You may want to simply add a statement to the effect that "My avatar is not a copy of my Player. We are different in many ways. Do not assume my Player is just like my Avatar." If they can't accept that my avatar is a fictional character, and that my Player will never offer more than Platonic friendship, they won't get any kind of relationship with my avatar. I like that. I may just have to to do that.... _____________________
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Ephraim Kappler
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02-25-2009 09:36
Calling any info about yourself into your profile a "cv" is rather extreme and nonsensical. You hate profile reading and you hate using them. It is understood quite clearly. It was an analogy, that's all. I don't see why background reading is necessary when a good conversation can develop naturally via the chat button. More often than not, I used to find that profiles gave me entirely the wrong impression about the individual I was dealing with - if they didn't put me off dealing with them altogether, that is, which is why I stopped paying attention to them. I guess it's just another facet of that dichotomy between folk who like to draw on RL to enrich their SL experience and those, like me, who prefer to keep the two things separate. Never the twain shall meet. |
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Argent Stonecutter
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02-25-2009 09:37
Good thing you can't put that much info in the 1st Life tab or people would be using it to hand out their CV.  _____________________
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Malia Writer
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02-25-2009 09:39
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Raudf Fox
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Join date: 25 Feb 2005
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02-25-2009 09:40
My RL tab is blank. Any details will be given if and when I choose to any particular person.I don't look at others' RL tabs, I'm not interested. This. I also go as far to say when asked where I live, "Fushido," the sim that my home is in. Though... a search of the forum could tell you what state I live in, besides Confusion. My friends who I've known for a really long time know general areas, phone numbers and RL names. Anyone else who asks just gets muted. _____________________
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Brenda Connolly
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02-25-2009 09:41
It was an analogy, that's all. I don't see why background reading is necessary when a good conversation can develop naturally via the chat button. More often than not, I used to find that profiles gave me entirely the wrong impression about the individual I was dealing with - if they didn't put me off dealing with them altogether, that is, which is why I stopped paying attention to them. I guess it's just another facet of that dichotomy between folk who like to draw on RL to enrich their SL experience and those, like me, who prefer to keep the two things separate. Never the twain shall meet. Just as our avatars can be totally fictionalized representations wheteher we admit it or not, I feel the same about profiles. You can put anything you want in them, and just because someone says it's true, it doesn't mean it is. So I just just take an avatar at face value and let the chips fall where they may. _____________________
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Briana Dawson
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02-25-2009 09:42
I guess it's just another facet of that dichotomy between folk who like to draw on RL to enrich their SL experience and those, like me, who prefer to keep the two things separate. Never the twain shall meet. Not quite, because many people use their profiles to reflect things about their RL selves in SL. _____________________
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Brenda Connolly
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02-25-2009 09:45
No, why would I? If people want to know about me, there is this odd little pastime we used to have in the good old days called "conversation". This is the MyFaceSpaceBook age. That concept is passe'. People want friends now, without having to do the usual work. It's plug and play relationships  It's not even called "making friends" any more. It's "social networking". A bit cold and sterile, if you ask me. _____________________
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Briana Dawson
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02-25-2009 09:48
No one is 'downing conversation' as a means to get to know one another.
Profiles can be a heuristic tool in that endeavor, that is all. Key word "can be". They CAN give insight when used to that end. _____________________
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Ephraim Kappler
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02-25-2009 09:49
I guess it's just another facet of that dichotomy between folk who like to draw on RL to enrich their SL experience and those, like me, who prefer to keep the two things separate. Never the twain shall meet. Not quite, because many people use their profiles to reflect things about their RL selves in SL. I don't get you: how does what you added below differ from the point I made? |
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Argent Stonecutter
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Join date: 20 Sep 2005
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02-25-2009 09:51
No, why would I? If people want to know about me, there is this odd little pastime we used to have in the good old days called "conversation". No, really, it is! If you can't be crazy in casual conversation... This. I also go as far to say when asked where I live, "Fushido," the sim that my home is in. Though... a search of the forum could tell you what state I live in, besides Confusion. (it's currently under a horse-trailer in a swamp) _____________________
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TundraFire Nightfire
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Join date: 5 Apr 2008
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02-25-2009 10:22
I sell a lot of arctic and Alaskan themed things at my store, so I mention that I'm from Alaska in my RL profile. I'm vague as to where I'm from in Alaska, but if I'm talking to someone on SL, I'll let them know roughly what area, without being too specific, where I live.
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Paola Delpaso
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Join date: 13 Jan 2007
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02-25-2009 10:28
I state my time zone in the 1st life tab. In my opinion this is the only piece of RL information of interest to complete strangers.
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Ephraim Kappler
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02-25-2009 10:42
I state my time zone in the 1st life tab. In my opinion this is the only piece of RL information of interest to complete strangers. Say Paola! You sound like a chick after my own heart. Maybe Mantovani ain't yore style? I guess I could always dust off my collection of Petula Clark's Greatest Hits. Whaddya say? (GMT+2) |
