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spinster Voom
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08-16-2009 03:23
From: Shambolic Walkenberg They're almost annoying enough to be good only for food.. But then there's that inquisitive head tilt and endearing eyes, and you forget the selfish evil streak and can't help but adore them. I have a friend who ate one once. Apparently they taste disgusting - sort of oily and rancid, he said. Not surprising when you consider what sort of cr*p they will eat. I find them very unendearing. I once saw three huge gulls mobbing a little girl for her ice-cream. They're not pets or meat, they are vermin. Vermin with a bad attitude. Pigeons, on the other hand, make excellent pets and go well in a pie (but can also be vermin).
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08-16-2009 03:25
From: Sling Trebuchet For over two years I've had parcels all over mainland. They've always been unrestricted. Only two people have ever been banned, and that was only temporarily, and only on one of up to maybe 15-ish parcels spread around the grid.
And yet, I've had neighbours who have put up ban lines on arrival. Unless they were the specific target of stalkers who were going to follow them, there was no actual need to have the restrictions. I had not observed any history of J.Random Griefers persistently or even intermittently messing about in those sims.
I would guess that this feeling of being under threat is simply some psychological baggage that people import into SL. Unless someone has a continuing experience of actual abusive behaviour of their SL space, ban lines are an expression of a sad impoverished RL of the person putting them up. The "get off my lawn" - when the incidence of lawn-trampling is very rare - is a actually an expression of rage and impotence at life in general.
Ban lines are 'because I can'. They are ungenerous, totally self-centred and pathetic.
There should be a special continent for people who want to have ban lines. Make it a beautiful continent, with beachfront, oceans, lakes, waterways, streets, mountains, valleys and whatever. Just let the small-minded residents ban each other from the joys of it. Have the sims set such that every parcel has to be specifically opened for access to owner/group/individual. STOP RIGHT THERE. You, my friend, are the problem. "ungenerous, totaly self-centred and pathetic" are we? "Small-minded" are we? Bullshit. Your small-minded insistence on personally attacking all the "small-minded" folks whose truths are not your truths and believing you have been granted the mandate to act as the judge of all humanity guarantees that you are not worthy of one iota of respect. Your petty attitudes are a blight and small-minded people like you don't have any place in society. |
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Clarissa Lowell
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08-16-2009 03:27
Sling's post is almost word for word the same as Mickey V's.
Odd.
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RockAndRoll Michigan
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08-16-2009 03:29
I've noticed that too, Clarissa. I'm loath to make the debate personal but as long as Sling chooses to go there....... Enough is enough.
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Clarissa Lowell
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08-16-2009 03:30
Seems like bait trolling, whoever posts it. Calling people who want ban lines those types of names is a bit over the top.
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08-16-2009 03:47
Seagulls are squeaky toys for dolphins.
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08-16-2009 03:50
From: spinster Voom They're not pets or meat, they are vermin. Vermin with a bad attitude.
Pigeons, on the other hand, make excellent pets and go well in a pie (but can also be vermin). Seagulls and pigeons are both rats with wings. Pep (Like squirrels etc are rats with bushy tails.)
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08-16-2009 03:51
From: Argent Stonecutter Seagulls are squeaky toys for dolphins. But they are beautiful when flying free, without "ban lines", in their natural environment - just a potential nuisance near human habitation.
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Clarissa Lowell
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08-16-2009 04:21
Gulls can be very aggressive.
I had a favorite booth at Gladstones 4 Fish on the beach in the Palisades. But a gull there was very aggressive. Most of the gulls stayed on the beach picking through the rubbish. But this one would perch on the railing right next to the booths, and if you didn't eat quickly or if you turned your head you had a gull sharing your dinner.
I did take handfuls of the free peanuts from the barrel there and throw them to the gulls once on a nearby dune. But, I thought that particular gull was outstepping his bounds a bit.
Waiters never bothered to shoo him away from leftovers and I think it made him bolder. It was a bit creepy the way he watched every bite I took. Yuck.
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08-16-2009 07:23
From: Clarissa Lowell Gulls can be very aggressive.
I had a favorite booth at Gladstones 4 Fish on the beach in the Palisades. But a gull there was very aggressive. Most of the gulls stayed on the beach picking through the rubbish. But this one would perch on the railing right next to the booths, and if you didn't eat quickly or if you turned your head you had a gull sharing your dinner.
I did take handfuls of the free peanuts from the barrel there and throw them to the gulls once on a nearby dune. But, I thought that particular gull was outstepping his bounds a bit.
Waiters never bothered to shoo him away from leftovers and I think it made him bolder. It was a bit creepy the way he watched every bite I took. Yuck. I don't think it's a good idea to feed and encourage the gulls at all - they end up being a public nuisance and then someone ends up thinking it's ok to try taking pot shots at them with an air pistol. This makes more work for the local animal rescue charities where I live and also for the RSPCA - the RSPCA will prosecute if they can find the culprit.
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08-16-2009 07:29
From: Gabriele Graves I don't think I have ever agreed with Pep more that I do right now. Then please answer this question - why post in the thread? It's so simple - just dont read it. Make a cup of coffee instead or clean your windows or ... The question posed - or position I hold - was not meant to give offence and I doubt if it did even slightly offend anyone in reality-world. Here I think it is a valid point - why have banlines? I explain why I did a part two at end of that thread - there are some really intense responses about shutting people out and a sense of "Live Free or Die" when really banlines are a form of xenophobic responses to a tame world where no one is really going to hurt you. I cant speak for Pep since he goes whichever way the wind blows. Anyway I am off on my travels again later today in real so you'll be getting a break from me. If I dont come back, someone please feed my seagull.
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Laurin Sorbet
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08-16-2009 07:41
Years ago before they changed the primate section at the SF Zoo, all the spider monkeys lived on this sort of concrete island with a moat. I saw a seagull grab a baby spider monkey and take off with it, but the mother lept up and grabbed the seagull by the ankle and yanked the baby to safety. It was no different to the gull than stealing hamburgers of plates at the cafes. They did it all the time. Locally, we have seagull nesting grounds on our off shore islands, and the sound of their voices is one of the nicest things about living at the sea. You go anywhere near those islands though and they'd give Hitchcock nightmares. Kind of cool, actually. They have their place, like all creatures. Preferably not on my chimney though or eyeing my bunnies  The only time we feed them is when we chum the fish guts. |
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08-16-2009 07:44
From: Jig Chippewa Then please answer this question - why post in the thread? It's so simple - just dont read it. Make a cup of coffee instead or clean your windows or ... The question posed - or position I hold - was not meant to give offence and I doubt if it did even slightly offend anyone in reality-world. Here I think it is a valid point - why have banlines? I explain why I did a part two at end of that thread - there are some really intense responses about shutting people out and a sense of "Live Free or Die" when really banlines are a form of xenophobic responses to a tame world where no one is really going to hurt you. I cant speak for Pep since he goes whichever way the wind blows. Anyway I am off on my travels again later today in real so you'll be getting a break from me. If I dont come back, someone please feed my seagull. Why I post is my business, it doesn't mean I cannot hold an opinion or agree with one such as the one expressed by Pep does it? Surely after all this time my opinions of the content of the most of your threads does not come as a shock? Why post threads if you don't want opinions? You cannot choose which opinions people can post in them you know. So how about you stop trying to do that?
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Jig Chippewa
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08-16-2009 07:47
Seagulls are a protected species since they are scavengers and keep the land clean. It is illegal to kill a seagull in many parts of real world.
Up the the late 17th century Kites (small hawks) flourished in London since they also kept the city clean of multitudes of rats etc. Ravens are also a protected bird species for same reason.
I encourage birds (like owls) that keep my land clean of vermin. I also encourage snakes who are the best at keeping small pests at bay.
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08-16-2009 07:53
From: Gabriele Graves Why I post is my business, it doesn't mean I cannot hold an opinion or agree with one such as the one expressed by Pep does it?
Surely after all this time my opinions of the content of the most of your threads does not come as a shock?
Why post threads if you don't want opinions? You cannot choose which opinions people can post in them you know. So how about you stop trying to do that? That is quite true - your opinion of me is very obvious. I sincerely don't know why since I have never met you in sl, or had a conversation with you in chat or IM, seen you or even know what you look like. To my knowledge I have never met you in reality either. It's possible you may have come across me in some way but you still wouldnt be able to connect "me in sl" with "me in rl". So, I hold no strong opinion about you. You are just a person. So am I. Can't really get too excited about it, really. Still, I must say I do enjoy it when you get a little "steamed" and then Pep gets on his high horse. Wouldn't you say it's just a teeny bit entertaining? Somebody give me a wooden spoon.
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08-16-2009 08:00
From: Jig Chippewa That is quite true - your opinion of me is very obvious. I sincerely don't know why since I have never met you in sl, or had a conversation with you in chat or IM, seen you or even know what you look like. To my knowledge I have never met you in reality either. It's possible you may have come across me in some way but you still wouldnt be able to connect "me in sl" with "me in rl". So, I hold no strong opinion about you. You are just a person. So am I. Can't really get too excited about it, really. Still, I must say I do enjoy it when you get a little "steamed" and then Pep gets on his high horse. Wouldn't you say it's just a teeny bit entertaining? Somebody give me a wooden spoon. Nope, not my opinion of you, my opinion of what you write (mostly) in your threads. It isn't personal at all, I don't feel any strong emotion about you, this thread or it's content but then I don't need to in order to post an opinion. I am glad that I entertain you though, at least one of us is getting something interesting out of all this.
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08-16-2009 09:35
From: Jig Chippewa
I encourage birds (like owls) that keep my land clean of vermin. I also encourage snakes who are the best at keeping small pests at bay.
doesn't appear either one are actually succeeding...
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08-16-2009 09:59
From: Jig Chippewa Seagulls are a protected species since they are scavengers and keep the land clean. It is illegal to kill a seagull in many parts of real world.
Up the the late 17th century Kites (small hawks) flourished in London since they also kept the city clean of multitudes of rats etc. Ravens are also a protected bird species for same reason.
I encourage birds (like owls) that keep my land clean of vermin. I also encourage snakes who are the best at keeping small pests at bay. Hawks such as Kestrels and Sparrow Hawks are not doing so bad in London, where they nest on the high rise buildings. I hope they are keeping down the rat population - I've seen rats scurrying along the tracks on the underground!
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08-16-2009 11:52
From: Deira Llanfair Hawks such as Kestrels and Sparrow Hawks are not doing so bad in London, where they nest on the high rise buildings. I hope they are keeping down the rat population - I've seen rats scurrying along the tracks on the underground! Pigeons commute in from the suburbs on the tube. That is TRUE! Not an urban myth.
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08-16-2009 11:55
From: 23rdDjin Negulesco doesn't appear either one are actually succeeding... Actually on my property in real they are doing okay. I have two resident owls - a Barred Owl and a Tufted(?) Owl. I always see snakes, especially in my rock garden where they sun themselves. Really off-topic but I introduced water lilies to my pond this year - its very large so it can take them. This will be for frogs etc.
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08-16-2009 11:56
From: Deira Llanfair I don't think it's a good idea to feed and encourage the gulls at all - they end up being a public nuisance and then someone ends up thinking it's ok to try taking pot shots at them with an air pistol. This makes more work for the local animal rescue charities where I live and also for the RSPCA - the RSPCA will prosecute if they can find the culprit. No one would be shooting anything on a beach here or they would have a lot more problems than the local animal societies. |
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08-16-2009 12:40
From: Clarissa Lowell No one would be shooting anything on a beach here or they would have a lot more problems than the local animal societies. And my beach isnt a public one coz its so remote and hard to get to and for other reasons so they are safe. And anyone raise a dickhair of a gun round my coastland will get more than he or she bargained for.
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08-16-2009 13:17
Seagulls are now officially vermin and may be shot on sight following their unsporting involvement in the Australia v England Lions match today! http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/8204368.stm - second to last paragraph. Pep (It's just not cricket!)
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08-16-2009 13:54
The seagull was clearly posessed by the shade of Douglas Adams, and thank god he was able to get a substitute bail in play.
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08-16-2009 14:25
From: Pserendipity Daniels Seagulls are now officially vermin and may be shot on sight following their unsporting involvement in the Australia v England Lions match today! http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/8204368.stm - second to last paragraph. Pep (It's just not cricket!) Which side was that seagull on?!!!!!!!!!
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