Disturbing: - Nazi groups still listed in SL

It's been pretty clear from numerous posts that she harbours some serious ill will towards the US.

Just let them be?? Sorry, but this sort of talk makes me sick. Some people are saying that they should be allowed to role-play, as long as they aren't affecting anyone else? What do you think they're role-playing? Having cups of tea and cake? I think not. You mention other wars, knights, cavemen. Even America. What the Nazi's did to millions of innocent people was inexcusable and a once in a lifetime happening. Well, we can only hope so. When America invaded Iraq, did they arrest millions of inocent men women, children and babies, lock them away in hellish conditions, and then brutally kill them? I would love to hear an actual comparison to what these bastards did, because to many people, there is none. It's not healthy to have these wannabe bastards RP their sick little fantasies which would more than likely be torturing and killing Jews. To what someone said about Klu Klux Klan and Nazi being ok because it's free speech, that's just bloody ridiculous. Funny how things that incite racism, hate and prejudice can be viewed as 'free'. The swastika HAS been around for a long time, and wasn't introduced by the Nazi's, but the word 'Nazi' and the beliefs that come with it have NO PLACE in modern society, if anything else, out of respect for the millions of people who were murdered by them Baby-killers have no place in our society, and we all know that sometimes things don't stop when we log out of SL.

The Nazis were amatuers compared to the Communists. But I see open Communist groups in SL, are you ARing them too? Do you really think that a group spouting Nazi rhetoric in a game is a danger? No, the real danger comes from the ones you don't see, the ones plotting and planning in the dark.

I've even seen a complete Hitler skin and shape with complete outfit in a shop in SL ....... and made my first AR in SL

In Germany we have learned what can happen if you leave the nazis room to expand and the whole world had to suffer because of that. We have a saying that to stop something bad from growing you have to pull it out with all its roots and that is the exact way of how most germans want to treat anything associated with the nazis. so no, we don't grant freedom of speech to them.

Regarding the ability to access nazi-pages on the internet: Our government and many other organizations have tried to have at least the most offending ones removed but have failed to do so due to (mostly) american laws. If people only visit those sites, nothing much will happen but if they save those texts and pictures to their HD they can be prosecuted for it.

I know that banning always is like walking a very thin line but I also feel that it is sometimes justified.

Communism in and of itself isn't bad. It's misguided, but it's not bad. Perhaps you're referring to the USSR (aka Soviet) Communists?

Just let them be?? Sorry, but this sort of talk makes me sick. Some people are saying that they should be allowed to role-play, as long as they aren't affecting anyone else? What do you think they're role-playing? Having cups of tea and cake? I think not. You mention other wars, knights, cavemen. Even America. What the Nazi's did to millions of innocent people was inexcusable and a once in a lifetime happening. Well, we can only hope so. When America invaded Iraq, did they arrest millions of inocent men women, children and babies, lock them away in hellish conditions, and then brutally kill them? I would love to hear an actual comparison to what these bastards did, because to many people, there is none. It's not healthy to have these wannabe bastards RP their sick little fantasies which would more than likely be torturing and killing Jews. To what someone said about Klu Klux Klan and Nazi being ok because it's free speech, that's just bloody ridiculous. Funny how things that incite racism, hate and prejudice can be viewed as 'free'. The swastika HAS been around for a long time, and wasn't introduced by the Nazi's, but the word 'Nazi' and the beliefs that come with it have NO PLACE in modern society, if anything else, out of respect for the millions of people who were murdered by them Baby-killers have no place in our society, and we all know that sometimes things don't stop when we log out of SL.

Censorship is never justified,

Like I have asked several times with no answer, name me any place outside of a few religious orders where communism has been put in and has stayed in power without terror and killing?

Yes, communism is bad in and of itself, it is just another form of slavery.

Have you AR'd the various Communist groups? Would you AR a group playing East German secret police?

Censorship is never justified, you beat bad ideas with good ideas not by driving them into the dark there to fester and grow unseen by the masses.

Like I have asked several times with no answer, name me any place outside of a few religious orders where communism has been put in and has stayed in power without terror and killing?

Yes, communism is bad in and of itself, it is just another form of slavery.

She can't possibly bear that much ill-will towards us. We didn't do anything to her. Well, at least I didn't. I've never even met her before, and I've never been to Australia. I'll wait until she chimes in with an answer, because I refuse to believe anyone on here is that ignorant and bigotted. I'm quite sure I misread what she said, and I won't judge her on it, because that wouldn't be fair.

Besides, I'm a genocidal punter with dangerously stupid ideas, not a genocidal tosser with dangerously stupid ideas. "Tosser" is just offensive.

Like I have asked several times with no answer, name me any place outside of a few religious orders where communism has been put in and has stayed in power without terror and killing?

Yes, communism is bad in and of itself, it is just another form of slavery.

Actually Ive always heard that Nazi iconography was forbidden under the tolerance clause - and was removed when reported.

And Nazi groups renamed.

I strongly believe in a vigorous and independent media to keep governments and corporations in check !

The times when I lived outside the US in highly 'regulated' countries this is probably the one single thing I missed the most.

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as another poster put it, this is not the real world. this is a virtual society. yes i agree, its annoying. but i have better things to do with my Sltime than worry about what a bunch of pixels decides to do with theirs. in this venue they can do whatever they want, whether you me or anyone else likes it or not. if its not your cup of tea, don't drink it. personally, i'd rather worry about the real life ones than the pixel ones.

LOL, I more or less completely disagree with that.

You just pick your juice when you choose what to read. To a certain degree this applies in the US as well, when it comes to the Op/Ed pages, but the news reporting -- aside from the "leaders" -- outside the US is all 100% partisan. It can be nice, or annoying depending on what you think. I love The Economist, because it more or less matches my own views on things ... but my own experience suggests that most non-US newspaper readers reflect that experience .. that is, they choose the paper/magazine that represents their own interest and read that, and have their ideas reinforced conveniently. All too often outside the US this means the current Orthodoxy of the Social Democratic movement, in its various flavours.

LOL, I more or less completely disagree with that.

When I have lived outside the US, all I have experienced in the media is that each paper, each magazine, etc., is linked with a political party, either formally or informally. I don't care much for TV journalism (even though outside the US this is normally controlled by the government, so I wouldnt see it as generally "free", but the print media outside the US is almost never even trying to be "objective" -- it is all partisan and distorted. You just pick your juice when you choose what to read. To a certain degree this applies in the US as well, when it comes to the Op/Ed pages, but the news reporting -- aside from the "leaders" -- outside the US is all 100% partisan. It can be nice, or annoying depending on what you think. I love The Economist, because it more or less matches my own views on things ... but my own experience suggests that most non-US newspaper readers reflect that experience .. that is, they choose the paper/magazine that represents their own interest and read that, and have their ideas reinforced conveniently. All too often outside the US this means the current Orthodoxy of the Social Democratic movement, in its various flavours.

The Nazis were amatuers compared to the Communists. But I see open Communist groups in SL, are you ARing them too? Do you really think that a group spouting Nazi rhetoric in a game is a danger? No, the real danger comes from the ones you don't see, the ones plotting and planning in the dark.

LOL, I more or less completely disagree with that.

When I have lived outside the US, all I have experienced in the media is that each paper, each magazine, etc., is linked with a political party, either formally or informally.

This is the way newspapers use to be in the US back when each city had two or more papers. There was no attempt at being objective, for the most part. Each paper had its stance and was open about it.

I think it was more honest than today where papers pretend to be objective. It is not possible to be totally objective. The choice of what are the most important news stories is going to be subjective even if the person making the decision is unaware of it. We are human after all.

In part true, but there is much journalism in the US that tries, at least, to be objective when reporting facts. Outside the US that is not the case .. it is almost all advocacy journalism. I dont see US journalism as dishonest in the least, Brad, sorry about that .. but the level of objectivity, even if it is not perfect here (it can never be) is much higher in the US in print media than it is outside the US in my experience.