well looks like WoW is less safe than SL for youngsters
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Amity Slade
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07-02-2008 13:54
Having just read the article cited, there is one huge problem with it, which just highlights how misinformation feuls hysteria.
The article identifies the man as a pedophile; however, the girl he enticed was 15 years old.
The mental disorder of pedophilia is, "A sexual preference for children, boys or girls or both, usually of prepubertal or early pubertal age. "
Seducing a minor, whether she is prepubescent, or not, is wrong. However, between the crimes, there is a huge difference in the dynamics of the situations leading to them, and therefore the means of detecting and preventing them.
We'll see what more facts may develop in this particular case, but it's likely that the guy was using WoW as his tool to prey on minors. He probably got the idea in his head once he was there, met this girl, and it occurred to him how easy it might be to take advantage of her.
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07-02-2008 13:58
From: MortVent Charron Proper parenting is the only way to do it... but people want companies and the government to be parents... Proper parenting is a must, but it doesn't protect adults from kids lawyers, not everyone does proper parenting or ever will, open door policies don't work, there needs to be some verfication.
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07-02-2008 14:09
I've know a few former boy scouts that learned their vices in Boy Scouts. Improperly disposed cigarettes make Smokey the Bear cry. I also know a former Scout Master who was an active mainline junkie (since recovered) whilst active (although not a pedophile to my knowledge). And don't get me started on field hockey coaches. 
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07-02-2008 14:11
From: Amity Slade If we care about the issue, then we should be happy to see citation of facts from credible sources that educate us on the issue of using Second Life, or MMORPGs, as a recruitment tool for human trafficking.
So I, for one, am waiting to hear the facts and sources. If you care about the issue, take it to PMs. This tangent is completely inappropriate for this forum. I am not unaware of the skin trade, but this is not the place to discuss modern slavery.
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07-02-2008 14:15
From: MortVent Charron Oh? They respond to reports. Just like linden labs, which requires people to get involved and report it. Something you mentioned previously you will not do when seeing something that should be reported because it might be inconvenient for you. Except WoW,CoH and other MMO's do respond to reports immediately,usually within the hour. They have good response systems and it is possible to get a BG/Linden within minutes when it is warranted.
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07-02-2008 15:07
From: Rebecca Proudhon As if I watch that. I guess you don't know about human trafficking and the incredible size of that business model. Oh, I know it happens, but "incredible size"? Care to give any numbers backed up with links? Or are you just going to keep making wild statements.
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07-02-2008 15:09
From: Macphisto Angelus Bummer.. I was gonna try to grab the offer before you. Ever since Lois and Clark she has been on my radar.  Did you see that one episode where they had the AC turned up real high the entire time they were filming?
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07-02-2008 15:20
I have decided to take the Kidman.
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07-02-2008 15:21
From: Chris Norse Did you see that one episode where they had the AC turned up real high the entire time they were filming? Yes! I think that was the one where Lois got in trouble and Superman had to rescue her.
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07-02-2008 15:27
From: Brenda Connolly The Kidman I can probably do, but it doesn't have Cruise Control... Brenda wins teh interwebz.
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07-02-2008 16:01
From: Argos Hawks Brenda wins teh interwebz. /me bows graciously. Raymond would be so proud if he were here.
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07-02-2008 16:08
From: Macphisto Angelus I have decided to take the Kidman. Excellent. I'll start the Paperwork. Can I interest you in an Extended Warranty, or Liposuction?
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07-02-2008 16:11
From: Brenda Connolly Excellent. I'll start the Paperwork. Can I interest you in an Extended Warranty, or Liposuction? For me or her? She may benefit from me having it done. But I will take her as-is complete with the Aussie accent. Extended warranty.. possibly. She will experience much wear and tear in the first month alone.
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07-02-2008 16:20
From: Macphisto Angelus For me or her?
She may benefit from me having it done. But I will take her as-is complete with the Aussie accent. Extended warranty.. possibly. She will experience much wear and tear in the first month alone. Oh..you want a right hand drive model? Hmmmm.....let me see, that's usually extra. What the hell. I like you, and it is a Holiday Weekend. Can you take delivery immediately? I need to get her off the lot. I'm expecting a New Charlize Theron, and need the room.
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07-02-2008 16:31
I f you have a Jennifer Connelly, can I place a reserve on her?
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07-02-2008 16:33
From: Brenda Connolly Oh..you want a right hand drive model? Hmmmm.....let me see, that's usually extra. What the hell. I like you, and it is a Holiday Weekend. Can you take delivery immediately? I need to get her off the lot. I'm expecting a New Charlize Theron, and need the room. I can take her right away. Woo Hoo! My first off the lot celebrity! Thank you! I will tell my friends all about your place.
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07-02-2008 16:38
From: Dekka Raymaker I f you have a Jennifer Connelly, can I place a reserve on her? Just fill this out. There is a 2 week wait. We'll call you when it comes in. Perhaps you would like to see something for the Mrs? We do have Clive Owens and Brad Pitts in stock. I can make you a nice "Package" Deal
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07-02-2008 16:40
From: Macphisto Angelus I can take her right away.
Woo Hoo! My first off the lot celebrity!
Thank you! I will tell my friends all about your place. Please do. I can't afford to use Bots to game the search results
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07-02-2008 16:43
From: Chris Norse give me numbers? go to human trafficking dot org. Plenty of numbers
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Amity Slade
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07-02-2008 16:56
From: Rebecca Proudhon go to human trafficking dot org. Plenty of numbers That site has absolutely no information anywhere on it that supports your link between child trafficking and SL/MMORPGs. Cite it if I've missed it.
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07-02-2008 17:02
From: TundraFire Nightfire
Our computer is not in a private place, and I have SL set to start on my land which is in a PG sim so there is no chance of my son seeing anything inappropriate by accident. Well...an avatar in wildly non pg accessories could tp in. Not that I think that would harm a teenager too badly.
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07-02-2008 17:03
From: Marcel Flatley Please Rebecca, tell me this piece of bullshit is ment ironic... I know, I should be able to see the irony in it, but please do tell me... I often suspect that she is pulling our legs. If it is an act she is very good at it...
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07-02-2008 17:17
Some fantasy fodder for some 
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07-02-2008 17:19
From: Brenda Connolly Oh..you want a right hand drive model? Hmmmm.....let me see, that's usually extra. What the hell. I like you, and it is a Holiday Weekend. Can you take delivery immediately? I need to get her off the lot. I'm expecting a New Charlize Theron, and need the room. The topless model from Devil's Advocate? If so, I think I could find room in the garage...
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07-02-2008 17:20
From: Rebecca Proudhon Some fantasy fodder for some  And how many of those deal with MMORPGs? That was Amity's point.
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