well looks like WoW is less safe than SL for youngsters

Guess what, it's not limited to trial accounts.

I had my accounts set up with no payment on file other than time cards, and no RL info on them.

And he wasn't caught till the father got suspicious about the plane tickets. So the chat records were not monitored to prevent it.

Blizzard can't prevent any of it happening.





Yes, it scans your entire hard drive and is super invasive. And yet botting keeps happening...



Which means the affair was going on for a period of time and not snipped in the bud by being detected by those chat logs... likely the first clue was the boy asking for a lift to meet her when she arrived.




You can get an anonymous account in wow too, and many do. Mainly so that if one account gets a payment/info based ban the user still has the alts...

It's not LL's job to police your children, it's your job as a parent to make sure said innocent child doesn't commit fraud and identity theft in order to get on the adult grid...

And the internet is a dangerous place, best treat it like that and be careful of paying attention to your children. You don't let them wander freely in the real world... the digital world can be just as dangerous.

That is your problem, watching Lifetime.

yeah, mistaking entertainment dramas for reality...

Blizzard can eliminate it to very few episodes, considering how many players are active. They are vigilent and pro-active.

Blizzard IS invasive and it is for your own protection. Nothing sinister for paranoid, anti-anti minds to get caught up in. When asked for all pertinent information about anyone with real accounts, Blizzard can cough up all pertinent info. Even trial accounts can be easy to catch, because they have the active technology for it. It's not built with fly by night and virtually useless security. The strict way they monitor IP addresses is proof how on top of it Blizzard is.

With wow, you can fly to some other country and plug in your laptop and instantly have your account suspended, till you call them and prove identity.

Blizzard also just announced the much anticipated, Diablo 3. So expect SL population to drop sometime near the end of the year or next year, as Diablo 3 becomes the secondary game for all those millions of wow players who might be casual SL numbers.




boohoo.





Barely.

These days alot of gold farmer have gone "legit" and have learned how to dominate the Auction House. This means companies, that pay professional farmers, for their gold, sell gold to players and then those players turn around and buy things from the farming company selling farmed items on the Auction House for insanely high gold prices which is again sold back to players.

These determined, companies have the market for game currency and SL is on the list too. Game currency and items are a huge business.



You are mssing the point.




Yes you can on Trial Accounts. Blizzard could send a helicopter to your house and land on your roof.

<Snip the wailing justifications why useless security is better then excellent security>

Some guy named Ben said something about liberty and security at one time. It applies here.

Oh? They respond to reports. Just like linden labs, which requires people to get involved and report it. Something you mentioned previously you will not do when seeing something that should be reported because it might be inconvenient for you.




Guess what, an ip address doesn't mean a whole lot. Regardless of what the RIAA seems to want you to believe. I can reboot my modem and get a new one! And that isn't even getting into spoofing or using proxies.

It's not for the user's protection, it's for the protection of blizzard's bottom line. It's a way for them to try and limit automation and cheating, since they want you to have to grind so the monthly fees are paid.

And guess what, they don't care if the data is legit or not as long as they get the income. Else I still wouldn't be able to log into my old accounts and see the information and have a resubscribe option...





happens in SL too. Or did you not know they did that if the regional ip block suddenly changes greatly.

A Bank knows all about you too. A good bank will be very protective of your identity. It's not a question of intrusion and "liberty" it's a question of trust.
Blizzard can be trusted, in the same way you would trust a good bank that has good service. There is an expectation of trust that a good company gains. Blizzard is remarkable in how professional they are. They aren't out to violate "liberty." they are out to protect the good people in their online world.

As if I watch that.

I guess you don't know about human trafficking and the incredible size of that business model.

its crazy sometimes, WoW always has had peaple like that, atleast guild wise. if you rember back a few months ago i belive or something like LL nailed somone for, in sl child melestation (cant spell today lol) so ya ... lol

your basicly always going to have that shit

/me waits crazaly for WoW 80 cap

Where can I buy a Mira Sorvino? Do they offer financing?

when is wow scanning your whole hard drive? they may be set to scan for certain types of files but they are not scanning the whole drive looking at everything..
the files are their extentions on the file..

WoW is just as sexually orientated in a lot of places as SL is..
I was in the underground ERP community there for two years before coming to SL and heard about SL from there.. they don't have all the pose balls and active things there but there are a lot of private patches like nude patches and genital patches and communities and guilds that get your imagination captured more than SL..guilds of prostitutes and traveling brothels..

it's all underground though because they say they don't want it but i could count more than two hands of fingers of blizz people i had dated in wow that were just as much into ERP as i was..ERP is Erotic Role Play..
It's bigger now than when i was there..

too many parents blame games or movies or music or whatever for the way their kids are acting or how they turn out or if they fall victim to something like this..

If the parents won't lead by example the kids will find a leader..it's not rolling the dice to hope they turn out ok..it's making sure a parent does their best so they have the best shot and making it in a ruff world..

When I was a kid, I was very easily led, very naive, shy and lonely as a result. My mom recognized I was prime pickins for pedophiles and she was always watching out for me without seeming like she was. She was cautious of any adult male that wanted to be part of my life. As a result, nothing bad ever happened to me, but some awful things happened to my friends. Parenting is very important, but there are lots of kids out there who don't have good parents, and they are most at risk.

I let my teen son play Runescape, but I'm always somewhere near by and he is not allowed to play unless I know his password. I also want to know who all his friends are, and I always know where he is both in RL and online.

Our computer is not in a private place, and I have SL set to start on my land which is in a PG sim so there is no chance of my son seeing anything inappropriate by accident. I think SL is set up so that everyone can enjoy it without having to see anything they find objectionable. It seems to me that SL is doing a good job of keeping the underage kids off the grid, but some will always get through. I woke up from a nap one afternoon to find my son online having a great time abusing my avatar by slamming it into walls and jumping off buildings. Password change imideately followed.

I don't have a problem with child avatars, but I do have a problem with child avatars having sex with adults even if I never see it. If SL was allowing that to go in in-world, I'd cancel my account immediately. That's the deal breaker for me.

Warden scans all running processes and various files looking for data. It sends all that data back to the servers. Though some have shown logs of it scanning the entire hard drives




Indeed, you have whole guilds dedicated to it. Some are a bit more open than others about it.



It's parents wanting the tech and everyone else to raise the children.

It's not going to happen till all kids are raised in a creche..

I always liked him. He said God gave us beer because he loves us, and to also fart proudly. How can you go wrong?

I've always been pretty capable of taking care of myself in most situations. If I had to choose I would prefer to err on the side of Liberty, myself. I have to avoid the neo socialist nanny state enough in my Real Life. I don't want to do so in my Play Life.

Educate us.

If you want a really good deal and don't mind leftovers, you can probably get a Terri Hatcher, especially if you want to pay cash.

Please Rebecca, tell me this piece of bullshit is ment ironic... I know, I should be able to see the irony in it, but please do tell me...

It's a deal. I have always had a little thing for Teri Hatcher.

Bummer.. I was gonna try to grab the offer before you.

Ever since Lois and Clark she has been on my radar.

Let me see what we have in the back.....

Please, not here.

Great! Thank you. Can you please see if you have something in a Jennifer Connelly or a Nicole Kidman?

*sends you a dozen Roses

The Kidman I can probably do, but it doesn't have Cruise Control...the Connelly, I will have to talk to my manager about. Have seat , and some coffee and twinkies, and I'll get back to you.

If we care about the issue, then we should be happy to see citation of facts from credible sources that educate us on the issue of using Second Life, or MMORPGs, as a recruitment tool for human trafficking.

So I, for one, am waiting to hear the facts and sources.