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Alt Names That Didn't Quite Make It?

Jesse Barnett
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03-07-2009 08:29
From: Shawna Roxley
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Thanks Ephraim for allowing me an explaination before deciding for yourself that such was the case. I won't comment on the 403 Forbidden errors my main account now gets on ONLY this thread. Did you, pehaps, report my OP based on an ASSUMPTION?!?!

Ephraim may have been rude but he did not report your post.

Http 403 forbidden errors are because of a broken SQL keyword filter LL has in the forum. See here for the list of word combinations you can not use in a post:

http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-917
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Shawna Roxley
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03-07-2009 08:31
From: Ephraim Kappler
I don't report threads as a rule and I certainly didn't report yours.

We have a pronounced difference of opinion on the matter, is all.

Got that?

Cut the drama.

You mean IGNORE your drama.. yes certainly. I'm big enough to admit I was uninformed about the forum sql bug and that jumping to the assumption that you reported me was wrong.

EDIT: TY Jesse :)
KroniclesOf Larnia
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03-07-2009 09:43
I win :p
Jethro Stubbs
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03-07-2009 11:14
From: Ephraim Kappler
You realise those names are no longer available for anyone to use? Selected names are removed from use by anyone, including yourself, even if you don't register the account.


From: Ephraim Kappler
It from my experience just two weeks back. I described the attempt on this thread:

/327/ad/310043/1.html#post2342197/327/ad/310043/1.html#post2342197


From: Ephraim Kappler
I have found that even a prospective combination at registration will remove that possibility from the list. For example: I'm thinking about Mary Underby and I change my mind, deciding on Gerry Underby but then I figure I prefer Mary Writer and try that before finally deciding to go back to Mary Underby only to find that the combination is no longer available.

There's a JIRA about this although I can't find the link just now. However, I did find that this seems to be what happens when I attempted to create an alt recently.


And yet I just registered one of your names, Gerry Underby! So how do you explain this from your experience?

I think you owe the OP an apology for being rude and for being wrong.
Ralektra Breda
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03-07-2009 11:21
lol good name Kronicles!

Beware Lowbeam made me giggle. I got a visual picture of that pesky beam on the cellar stairs my father always forgot to beware.
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03-07-2009 13:19
From: Ralektra Breda
lol good name Kronicles!

Beware Lowbeam made me giggle. I got a visual picture of that pesky beam on the cellar stairs my father always forgot to beware.

when I saw the last name, my immediate thought was "Max Headroom". I feel dirty admitting that

PS, shoulda been Kronikalslav =)
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Krakamiah Kaestner
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03-07-2009 15:13
saw the name Yuitza, which I chose to pronounce you EATS uh, and tried first namr of URWhat...but had too many accts already
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03-07-2009 15:21
You rang...?
Aeon FLux
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03-07-2009 15:23
Ha. Damn noobs if it comes to name grabbing. *gg*
Briana Dawson
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03-07-2009 16:30
From: Ephraim Kappler
You realise those names are no longer available for anyone to use? Selected names are removed from use by anyone, including yourself, even if you don't register the account.

What a dumbassed wasteful and downright inconsiderate thing to spend your afternoon doing.


WRONG!

I registered a name she posted in that list "Erotic Brianna" after the post was made.

Gee what a waste of a perfectly harsh attack.
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Briana Dawson
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03-07-2009 16:33
From: Ephraim Kappler
I don't report threads as a rule and I certainly didn't report yours.

We have a pronounced difference of opinion on the matter, is all.

Got that?

Cut the drama.


Wow... :eek: You brought the 'drama' to this thread, no one else.
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Alyssa Abbot
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03-07-2009 16:37
I just saw the name "Atlanta Georgia" in-world
Taire Ubble
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03-07-2009 17:09
Well, that was eye-opening...

I could hardly decide which of the many, many possibilities to use with this name (one thought: "Ed", and go around in a cheeseburger avatar. But I don't really have that much time on my hands.)

Anyway, the only way to get it was on a French-language site. The registration process was merely: input your birthdate and email. That was IT.

SL opened on a nighttime (!) scene of a pirate ship and lagoon...and a decision window, 'male or female, you can change it later'. (In English.) On clicking Female, I got a rather chunky brunette (prim hair) in a polka-dot dress, hovering. I moved off quickly as others were materializing. A look at the Map confirmed that there were 30 of us on the sim.

What was amazing to me was that there are 5 or 6 highly-detailed sims, connected, for the French-speaking to explore. The first, the one with the pirate ship, had a path through a castle, with stations with signs (in French, of course!), instructing on various aspects of SL. It reminded me a lot of the Orientation Island of a year ago. Other sims had sandboxes (1/2-sim size) and acres of freebies. And, it looked like, lots of other stuff---I ran out of time and left.

I didn't go to Mainland, so when I log in as this avatar again, I can check out the French landing sims a bit more. (Of course it's awkward when someone speaks to me, so I'll try to avoid it. When it happened today I typed 'Pardon, je suis une Anglophone', which is probably very bad French.)

So the big question is: why do the French-speakers have such a very detailed landing place, while English speakers have rez-spots that are so much less engaging and useful? Is it that the French sims are NOT built and maintained by LL? And the English-speaking ones ARE run by LL, and LL just doesn't want to go to the trouble of building a more detailed orientation sim(s)?

This situation is TERRIBLE.

(^_^)
Archimedes Plutonian
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03-07-2009 17:33
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Nope. :D

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Ephraim Kappler
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03-07-2009 18:28
From: Briana Dawson
Wow... :eek: You brought the 'drama' to this thread, no one else.

The OP blew off at me falsely for reporting the thread, so yes, drama, regardless of the fact she since deleted that part of her response.

As for my post: names do get blocked in the manner I described. So lucky you for picking up another ten alt accounts, I guess it's just another cracked piece of programming that has it's good days and bad days.
Dana Hickman
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03-07-2009 18:59
From: Ephraim Kappler
The OP blew off at me falsely for reporting the thread, so yes, drama, regardless of the fact she since deleted that part of her response.

Well no, actually I went off at you for making an assumption and going off at me about it FIRST. You didn't even bother to ask if that's what I did before getting pissy about it.

I think I was fairly justified in thinking you might have reported the thread. Why wouldn't I think that someone who flies in on an assumption, guns blazing wouldn't also stoop to telling mommy?
Turned out I was wrong about that part, so I edited that out and made a statement acknowledging that I was wrong. Judging by your tone, I'm not holding my breathe for you to take your turn in owning up though.
Jesse Barnett
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03-07-2009 19:16
From: Ephraim Kappler
The OP blew off at me falsely for reporting the thread, so yes, drama, regardless of the fact she since deleted that part of her response.

As for my post: names do get blocked in the manner I described. So lucky you for picking up another ten alt accounts, I guess it's just another cracked piece of programming that has it's good days and bad days.

Or did you even think of doing actual research and seeing if picked, but not chosen names are cached for a period of time and then released again?
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Clarissa Lowell
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03-07-2009 22:21
Most memorable SL name I've seen, just offhand: "Female Flow." Ew maybe. But memorable.

And no, it isn't an alt of mine.

About names going missing after being tried but unregistered. Sounds like they might be held up for a bit like seats at Ticketmaster but if the transaction isn't completed, then they are let go again. But I dunno.

It doesn't make sense to me that merely typing it out nullifies it forever.
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03-08-2009 00:34
From: Clarissa Lowell
It doesn't make sense to me that merely typing it out nullifies it forever.

I can't say about now, but there was a time when that was definitely the case.
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03-08-2009 03:54
From: Jesse Barnett
Or did you even think of doing actual research and seeing if picked, but not chosen names are cached for a period of time and then released again?

Two weeks ago, I briefly considered creating an alt by the name of Mr Underby. The surname was one of only a few available choices that worked for the character I was creating.

I briefly reconsidered and chose another surname while I completed the registration process but before posting the details, I changed my mind again in favour of using Underby.

However, the name was no longer available from the 'Get available names' selection. I immediately went in world to see if, by some remote chance, someone else had taken the combination at more or less exactly the same time I had considered it. There was no Mr Underby to be found under search.

I attempted to register the name again before posting to this thread yesterday and guess what? I could neither take the name Mr Underby nor could I locate any av in-world by the name.

The JIRA I referred to earlier is:

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-241

Please note that it refers to a older version of the process where registration covered a few pages. My experience is that the problem recurs on the current single-page version. Furthermore, I recently emptied all SL cookies from Firefox for other reasons, so I doubt the issue is connected with information stored on my computer.

From: Dana Hickman
Judging by your tone, I'm not holding my breathe for you to take your turn in owning up though.

You have my sincerest apologies for the angry tone of my original post. I am truly ashamed to have let my temper get ahead of me that way and I would remove the text if the quoted spat could be deleted likewise.

Nevertheless, given the process as I described it above, your original post strongly suggests that those names could easily have been lost. The fact that Brianna was successful in acquiring one of the names you considered simply suggests that either her experience or mine is an anomaly - and I believe she just got lucky.

No doubt it would have tested her equanimity if the name was no longer available when she attempted to register that alt.

Void has pointed out this is an old problem, which was supposedly resolved, but it would not be the first time that an issue has returned to plague us in this way.
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03-08-2009 04:18
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03-08-2009 04:31
From: Taire Ubble

So the big question is: why do the French-speakers have such a very detailed landing place, while English speakers have rez-spots that are so much less engaging and useful? Is it that the French sims are NOT built and maintained by LL? And the English-speaking ones ARE run by LL, and LL just doesn't want to go to the trouble of building a more detailed orientation sim(s)?


Basically, yes. All the non-official, foreign language and other special interest landing zones are run by groups independent of Linden Lab, and a lot of them have Orientation processes much better than the "official" one.

The one I think is absolutely by far the best, and the one I will recommend to anyone who had an incomplete or unhelpful experience in the official orientation, is the one by Virtual Ability.

slurl= http://slurl.com/secondlife/Virtual%20Ability/128/127/23
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03-08-2009 04:34
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03-08-2009 06:23
From: Ephraim Kappler
I don't report threads as a rule and I certainly didn't report yours.

We have a pronounced difference of opinion on the matter, is all.

Got that?

Cut the drama.


Awwws, can't you guys just all be friends again, or is there a full moon or something?
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