Inclusive Communities and Representations of Violence against Women

Nice try, but 'all of them' doesn't work for you any better than it worked for Governor Palin.

Quote my alleged claims and I'll back them up with evidence.

Fail to quote (exact cut-and-paste, please, no interpretations of 'what Ponsonby meant') and we'll know what construction to put on your challenge.

Why should I do what you will not do?

Adds "sarcasm" and "facetiousness" to the words Posonby should look up on dictionary.com.

A lot can be explained simply by understanding those four words on that list. Lol.

Yeah, whatever good Al Gore did by inventing The Internet, he squandered by inventing Tipper.

I remember when Frank Zappa went to the Hill and gently gave his opinion on the matter. He really would love all the nonsense going on today.

For all the damage GW and his boys have done, and it is mind boggling, the other side seems to conveniently forget they were raising their hands in agreement throughout most of it, especially in the last few years when they were in charge.

What are you talking about? I posted the claims of the two people in question. I cut-and pasted them into the posts in which I asked them for evidence.

Why won't you do the same?

Please, continue yelling. Maybe someone will get it. It's high time someone started making sense in this thread.

I strongly recommend that you read the study by Farley, available on the web, http://www.prostitutionresearch.com/pdfs/Farley_Kelly.pdf

in which she concludes:

For the vast majority of the world’s prostituted women, prostitution is
the experience of being hunted, dominated, harassed, assaulted, and battered.
Intrinsic to prostitution are numerous violations of human rights: sexual
harassment, economic servitude, educational deprivation, job discrimination,
domestic violence, racism, classism, vulnerability to frequent physical and
sexual assault, and being subjected to body invasions which are equivalent to
torture.

It is the men who use them that propogate this myth that most enjoy it and are in it for the money.

Rock

Please, everyone on this thread, do read this study.

You go first.

for the same reason you defended not posting answers to questions...

CONSENTING ADULTS ENGAGING IN FANTASY ROLEPLAY ON COMPUTERS! NO PROSTITUTES! NO PIMPS! NO WHITE SLAVERY! FORTY YEAR OLD DUDES WHACKING OFF WHILE THEY TALK DIRTY TO EACH OTHER!

LIGHTEN UP FRANCIS!!!

Thank you.

Hey Rock

You got any links that are not biased?

And you never did answer my questions on rp of women slaves if exploitation is such a hot topic for you?

Would it not be wrong to assume that rp glorifying slavery of women was wrong as the violent rp as well?

That's the fact, Jack.

Shane,

I think you peeked at his profile. And know he will not respond because that is a rp situation he enjoys.

So why would he risk being called out on it.

He knows all his arguments trying to defend his rp of pets and slaves would be the same he's discarded in defense of the RP the op and others want removed from SL

The two authors' credentials are the following:

Melissa Farley, Ph.D. is at Kaiser Foundation Research Institute, Oakland,
Ca. and Prostitution Research & Education, a project of San Francisco Women’s
Centers, Inc.

Vanessa Kelly, Psy.D. is Coordinator, University of California at San
Francisco Traumatic Stress Treatment Program, San Francisco General Hospital,
San Francisco, CA.

What are yours?



I condone Pet relationships, not Slaves. Huge difference.

As our notecard states, we only pamper in our RP sim. No punishments of any kind. No abuse of any kind will be tolerated.

Slavery is anathema to us in Anubia. Girls come to us willingly, usually from Gor, sick of the humiliation and ill-treatment, and we provide precisely the opposite, merciless pampering, kindness, and affection.

Hundreds have passed through Anubia, and I am still in contact with many of them, including in RL.

Rock

No different from any roleplay in Second Life.

And Americans are the prudes?!?

Those are credentials. Not lack of bias

As for me.

Don't ask questions you really don't want answered.



And here is a catch for you, name one woman that has not entered into a violent rp willingly.

Name one that did not have all the tools necessary to escape unwanted advances in sl.

Wrong, very wrong. We have voice verification. The girls in our RP really are girls. Is that the same in other RP?? Well, is it?

Rock

Why does it matter if they are really girls? It's fantasy, are you saying males can not be abused too?


Awful sexist there mr.

Only in that his RP is "right" and others are "wrong."

:: going through those links for the stats that show the percentage of actresses in American porn that are doing it against their will ::

What does that have to do wth anything? What she meant was all roleplay is done willingly in SL, no matter what thet context. You say "They come wilingly" as if it is somehing unique. EVERYONE comes to RP willingly in SL, they come willingly to SL, period.

Big difference between extreme violence and depictions of child sex, and in the US where a wardrobe malfunction warrants a US$550,000 fine, which staggered us in the UK, but what really amazed us, was the fact that 540,000 people complained.

Prudes? tell me about it!

Rock

Exactly, and the answer there is none.

Most of the forced actresses are in third-world coutnries or .... the EU last time I checked

It should be noted, however, that Farley's methodology and conclusions are not without some pretty strong criticism by other scholars. Imo, people reading the study should perhaps also read the criticisms before drawing any definite conclusions.

Now on mute. Someone who keeps demanding that others put up proof, that others should answer his questions, while refusing to answer any put directly to him, is not worth debating with.

Click

Rock