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Okay, so I read a lot about Bloodlines...

Pie Psaltery
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10-28-2008 12:07
From: Raudf Fox
I'm waiting for them to start this crap at a Linden office hour ;)



They are afraid to... they all know that the Lindens are the biggest bloodsuckers in this world, and already own all our souls
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Raudf Fox
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10-28-2008 12:16
True. Very, very true.

Although we could start a Darwin Award for Spamires is this ever happens. I'm pretty sure the Lindens would code it so that a banning would result in a pile of ashes just for them too!

What? I can dream, can't I?
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Sredni Eel
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10-28-2008 12:19
I actually ran into Governor Linden on one of my "hunts" back when I was in the bloodlines thing. I saw him, said Hi, and went on my merry way.

I'm sure people have bitten Lindens before, but no reason to add the notch to the feeding pole, you know?

Funny. Now that I'm actually hunting vampires, I rarely see any. I go to freebie places and newbie places and not one spam bite offer.

I feel so unloved.
Tiberious Neruda
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10-28-2008 12:48
From: Raudf Fox
They have to be pretty desperate to be spamming in the first place. I'm waiting for them to start this crap at a Linden office hour ;)


Umm, you realize this was at CG -LINDEN-'s Office Hour, yes? So they have.

Also, be on the lookout, since it's gonna be very populated, for Spampires at Jack's hour Thursday...
reaper2666 Wobbit
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10-28-2008 13:36
From: Pie Psaltery
AR, Ban, Mute, Eject... also completely free, and doesn't involve me in your inane pseudo-rpg.

Wear a garlic necklace... you've got to be kidding me. Doesn't that just involve me in your stupid little game? Thanks, but I'll pass. A garlic necklace wouldn't compliment my outfit.[/QUOTE

it's a one minute thing put it on, click it activate it, done take it off, lose it, and no it doesn't "involve" you as a matter of fact i'd like to see it as a freebie everywhere so people can stop complaining about one sect and only the bad ones at that, there are many other vampire systems out there however the garlic lets you basically shut down anyone that even tries=no more menu to accept
reaper2666 Wobbit
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10-28-2008 13:41
From: Argent Stonecutter
How many malls are next to combat zones? What KIND of mall is next to a combat zone? If DCS plops combat zones down next to random non-military-themed malls, then I guess they're just as bad. Which does not, of course, justify anyone else doing the same kind of thing.

Keep your bloodsucking to themed malls near RP zones, then complain about the way people react to you.



that kind of thinking is on par with banning people simply because they have a gun in hand, which most have for decoration.

just because i am wearing fangs does not mean i intend to bite you, as a matter of fact i spend the majority of my time in a a sandbox, and have done so for the last year and i have never spammed anyone in my entire life...so please do kill the attitude as i am just trying to help out here
Raudf Fox
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10-28-2008 13:50
From: Tiberious Neruda
Umm, you realize this was at CG -LINDEN-'s Office Hour, yes? So they have.

Also, be on the lookout, since it's gonna be very populated, for Spampires at Jack's hour Thursday...


Bah, that should tell you how out of touch I am right now. Reality keeps me busy so SL is mostly making things....

And the spampire didn't get ashed? Darn it, LL needs to set some standards!
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Argent Stonecutter
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10-28-2008 14:00
From: reaper2666 Wobbit
that kind of thinking is on par with banning people simply because they have a gun in hand, which most have for decoration.
What, banning people for shooting is equivalent to banning people for carrying a prop? I never suggested banning people for wearing fangs.
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Clarissa Lowell
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10-28-2008 14:38
I have not seen a mall or shopping area that was in a RP zone, without their posting signs saying the mall is in an RP zone and people are expected to at least not interfere, etc. For instance, in Tombstone, they have a shopping area and then a separate RP zone and there is a sign warning "you are about to enter the RP zone" Lol. And they also wear a HUD, so that no visitor can be harmed by a stray bullet. (Well the 'harm' is RP'd anyway - you lose health on your HUD, not on your SL avatar to be precise.)

Anyhow, any mall that doesn't warn people they are in an RP zone should really change their ways. Something about 'not interfering with other people's enjoyment of SL'. It's amazing how many businesses - who are there by permission of Linden only - forget that the FIRST objective is for everyone to be allowed to play and enjoy the game. I'd think that would include harassing people to bite them or sexual harassment or any type of harassment. It would also, I'd think, include shooting at them while they try to shop. JMO.
Pie Psaltery
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10-28-2008 15:24
From: Argent Stonecutter
What, banning people for shooting is equivalent to banning people for carrying a prop? I never suggested banning people for wearing fangs.


Exactly.

I have no problem with people who like to role play, regardless of what they choose to role play. Fangs, collars, tentacles, fur... whatever floats your boat is fine by me.

But don't spam me and then expect me to take more active measures then simply muting, banning and ejecting you from my property, or muting and ARing you if you bother me in a public venue. I would simply quote this section of the Community Standards

The Community Standards:
From: someone
2. Harassment
Given the myriad capabilities of Second Life, harassment can take many forms. Communicating or behaving in a manner which is offensively coarse, intimidating or threatening, constitutes unwelcome sexual advances or requests for sexual favors, or is otherwise likely to cause annoyance or alarm is Harassment.


"intimidating or threatening" "is otherwise likely to cause annoyance or alarm is Harassment"

Those would be the points I'd underline.

Your spam is harrassment. I AR harrassment, not roleplayers.
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Clarissa Lowell
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10-28-2008 15:33
Harassment isn't only threats and sexual advances. As the paragraph states - it can take many forms. Such as, from the section you quoted:

From: someone
or is otherwise likely to cause annoyance or alarm


Being repeatedly approached while trying to do something else in SL and while not a roleplaying member *of* that game, especially on a parcel which forbids shoppers/visitors being approached, is pretty clearly annoying.
Meta Starostin
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10-29-2008 15:04
From: Windsweptgold Wopat
1 reverse what?? some silly thing tell me im something im not. I can just remove any thing attached to me and dam if im not cured> WHy should i buy something to fix something iam not interested.


When you are bitten, the very first Vampire who bites you owns your soul. This is registered in the Bloodlines database even if the victim is not registered in the game - and without your knowledge. This only shows by people registered in the game and have The Thirst HUD. There is a scanner and you show up as a Human in Limbo.

If you wish to join the game and finally register, and you desire the next vampire who bites you to own your soul, then FIRST you have to purchase and drink the Wormwood potion BEFORE you register otherwise the Vampire will not get your soul because it is owned by the first one.

The soul count you have governs the Rank a vampire has in the game.

There is also a scam called Soul Trading. Some souls can be purchased for $L10,000, or trading in a soul for a soul etc
Meta Starostin
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10-29-2008 15:14
From: Nic Writer
I probably should have added the information on how to contact the game's creator and demand to be removed in order to send a message that the game's behavior is unacceptable, but I'm not 100% clear on it and it's already been stated either earlier in this thread or in others.


I do not play Bloodlines any longer for a variety of reasons, some of which are mentioned in this thread.

However, I am still registered in the game and the account is deactivated (not deleted). My character's profile is not visible - even to me..

The problem is that the Vampire who first bit me, still owns my soul and adds to its soul count which governs the vampires rank in the game. Instead of my name showing on the owners profile, it says "name removed". If I activate my account again, of course my Avs name shows - still owned by the same.

I have emailed the creators demanding complete deletion of my registration (or else) which is obviously keyed on my UUID.
Meta Starostin
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10-29-2008 15:17
From: Pie Psaltery
Wear a garlic necklace... you've got to be kidding me. Doesn't that just involve me in your stupid little game? Thanks, but I'll pass. A garlic necklace wouldn't compliment my outfit.


So very very true. plus the details are stored on the Bloodlines database
Clarissa Lowell
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10-29-2008 16:06
From: Meta Starostin

There is also a scam called Soul Trading. Some souls can be purchased for $L10,000, or trading in a soul for a soul etc


Sounds like they should just cut out the middle-man then, and PAY people to allow a bite. After all, sounds like a pretty fair commodity. And not out of the realm of disbelief, all things considered.

Just like if this were 'real' there would be fangbangers, there would also be bite victims for hire, (or rent) I'd think.
Sredni Eel
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10-29-2008 18:28
Actually, if you pay ten grand for a soul, then you deserve to be suckered. PT Barnum was right.

When I sold off my soul collection I got 2000L each. Figured if vampires wanted status that bad, they could pay for it. Most of them bitched about the price being too high, but they still paid.

The funny thing is someone once offered me $20 USD for a soul. That's just nuts. You don't gain anything for increasing your status in that game. No Get Out of Jail Card, no Funny Money, no Lollipops, or anything.
AutumnRose Perl
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Not sure if its been Mentioned but here goes
11-02-2008 17:29
Not sure if it has been mentioned or not but what the heck. There is an alternate to Bloodlines and in my opinion is a 1000 times better and i can say that cause I play both. Any way the new Vampire RP is call First Blood The Hunger. You can search for it or if you want you can contact me in game and I would be happy to discuss it with you. Hope you dont give up on Vampire RP as its really lots of fun.
Cerridwen Dezno
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Join date: 6 Jun 2008
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...and when I die, may all my souls go to rest...
01-07-2009 10:22
From: Sredni Eel
Actually, if you pay ten grand for a soul, then you deserve to be suckered. PT Barnum was right.

When I sold off my soul collection I got 2000L each. Figured if vampires wanted status that bad, they could pay for it. Most of them bitched about the price being too high, but they still paid.

The funny thing is someone once offered me $20 USD for a soul. That's just nuts. You don't gain anything for increasing your status in that game. No Get Out of Jail Card, no Funny Money, no Lollipops, or anything.


I would just kick myself if I died and had paid that amount for 10 souls or so. Hehe. That'd be a crying shame really.

I'm getting a little sick of Bloodlines too, on the plus all the people I've bitten introduced me to some cool people. In a way I see the bite as a social prop. Actually knew a few people who'd just bite their friends for kicks, even though they knew they wouldn't get anything. The problem with trying to 'ask' (spam if you will) and actually RP these days is that you're perceived as some gross vampiric pervert. You just have to read one Anne Rice book to know that there's something erotic entangled in the description of their feeding, lol.
Yngwie Krogstad
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01-07-2009 12:13
OK, lots of talk here about being removed from the database. That's not the cure-all you think it is.

Here's what it means if you're not in their database: You're fresh blood. That's right, if you've actually been removed from their database, a Bloodlines player scans you, and whaddya know, you've never been bitten. If they're a spampire guess what they're going to do? There goes your blue pop-up asking to be bitten. Same old story starts all over again.

And the garlic necklace? It does not remove you from their database. Wearing it once will guarantee you never get a bite request again. Guess what? They do that by storing your info in the database, as off-limits. Not by removing you from the database.

So as it stands, you have absolutely no choice but to be IN the database, if you don't want to deal with spampires offering to bite you all the time. There is no such thing as an opt-out.
Gabriele Graves
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01-07-2009 12:54
From: Yngwie Krogstad
OK, lots of talk here about being removed from the database. That's not the cure-all you think it is.

Here's what it means if you're not in their database: You're fresh blood. That's right, if you've actually been removed from their database, a Bloodlines player scans you, and whaddya know, you've never been bitten. If they're a spampire guess what they're going to do? There goes your blue pop-up asking to be bitten. Same old story starts all over again.

And the garlic necklace? It does not remove you from their database. Wearing it once will guarantee you never get a bite request again. Guess what? They do that by storing your info in the database, as off-limits. Not by removing you from the database.

So as it stands, you have absolutely no choice but to be IN the database, if you don't want to deal with spampires offering to bite you all the time. There is no such thing as an opt-out.
Actually I think you will find most regular readers here are aware of this.

Personally I would not be their database and deal with their spam the same way I would deal with any other spam than accept their poor offering of a concession of not being involved.
Couple that with a vociferously calling for BL to be changed to only deal with opted-in participants. You might find that is more a popular choice than you think.
Accepting a garlic necklace and allowing them to record you as opting-out is in my book an acceptance of the system as it stands.
I say reject this system and whatever it offers in it's entirety until they have been forced to alter it through the negative publicity they receive.
Cael Merryman
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01-07-2009 13:03
From: Gabriele Graves
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I say reject this system and whatever it offers in it's entirety until they have been forced to alter it through the negative publicity they receive.


I find it gives me an opportunity to use a vocabulary that was rusty from disuse since I took off the SSG uniform long ago. Its my RP - I'm a drill sergeant and I am trying to find out how many different ways to tell the Bloodlines RP person that he or she is a worthless piece of crap going back ten generations.


They involve me in their RP, I'll involve them in mine...
Raudf Fox
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01-07-2009 13:05
From: Cael Merryman
I find it gives me an opportunity to use a vocabulary that was rusty from disuse since I took off the SSG uniform long ago. Its my RP - I'm a drill sergeant and I am trying to find out how many different ways to tell the Bloodlines RP person that he or she is a worthless piece of crap going back ten generations.


They involve me in their RP, I'll involve them in mine...


Ooooh, that is good!

My idea was to create a pile of ashes prim and have a flip title floating above it that says, "Here lies the ashes of a Bloodlines vampire that spammed bite invites. All spamires will meet the same fate."
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Kyrah Abattoir
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01-07-2009 13:06
From: Yngwie Krogstad
OK, lots of talk here about being removed from the database. That's not the cure-all you think it is.

Here's what it means if you're not in their database: You're fresh blood. That's right, if you've actually been removed from their database, a Bloodlines player scans you, and whaddya know, you've never been bitten. If they're a spampire guess what they're going to do? There goes your blue pop-up asking to be bitten. Same old story starts all over again.

And the garlic necklace? It does not remove you from their database. Wearing it once will guarantee you never get a bite request again. Guess what? They do that by storing your info in the database, as off-limits. Not by removing you from the database.

So as it stands, you have absolutely no choice but to be IN the database, if you don't want to deal with spampires offering to bite you all the time. There is no such thing as an opt-out.


There is opt out, it's just built like the red list in phone books, as in you have to sign for it in other NOT to have your number in the phone book.
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Gabriele Graves
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01-07-2009 13:24
From: Cael Merryman
I find it gives me an opportunity to use a vocabulary that was rusty from disuse since I took off the SSG uniform long ago. Its my RP - I'm a drill sergeant and I am trying to find out how many different ways to tell the Bloodlines RP person that he or she is a worthless piece of crap going back ten generations.


They involve me in their RP, I'll involve them in mine...

From: Raudf Fox
Ooooh, that is good!

My idea was to create a pile of ashes prim and have a flip title floating above it that says, "Here lies the ashes of a Bloodlines vampire that spammed bite invites. All spamires will meet the same fate."

Both of these are excellent :) VV
Edward Hydraconis
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01-07-2009 13:33
From: Void Singer
::tilts head in puzzelment::

am I the only one that remembers when roleplaying was bout the story and not some 'rule sytem'?

unfortunately you'll find many invite only places (and that's why they are reccomended, because they can filter the types you mentioned). most of the rest of the places have lots of the element you are trying to avoid, but there are also some good regulars in those places too... you just have to keep an eye out for them, even some freeform players


No your really not. I RP as a vampire and I yes I am in Bloodlines, but I could careless if I loose this stupid game. I'm a vampire with or without Bloodlines and I have my own story :).
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