Okay, so I read a lot about Bloodlines...

+2 Style points =)

1. Requires that I have to buy it and also buy into your idiotic game. ARing is free.
2. Then you do not need to accept the offer to be burned by a pyrokinetic, either.
3. I handle them by eject and ban or turning into a dragon. Also works for guys hitting on me.
4. I'm a role player. There are certain courtesies that should be followed when dealing with people not playing your game. In other words, don't drag them into it and quit giving RPers a bad name.
5. I play City of Heroes, in which I can and do set vampires on fire. Get the picture? Trick or Treating is also a blast with the zombie hordes rising from the ground... never mind.

Okay I can give you some insight into the world of bloodlines, having been a part of it for a few months.

First, you must buy a HUD. Then you have to find someone to "make" you, which isn't hard. Just make an announcement once you're inside the store. You'll be descended upon by a pack of vampires within seconds. Once you're made into a vampire, you may be left with a bit of vital blood or nothing, depending on the greed of the person who makes you.

Okay, assuming you find someone like me (I used to leave people with two liters, or about eight days worth of blood), you will be leiging to them. Or to whoever and whichever clan you want to be a part of. A lot of clans have a lot of drama surrounding them, which is unfortunate. But if you're lucky you'll find a clan that isn't embroiled in some bloodlines scandal or other.

Believe me, several "cheat" by creating alts, making them into vampires to up their numbers and status, and then killing off the alt. They get to keep any souls, regardless of the avatar still existing or not.

Now then, in order to not be destroyed, you have to "feed". You lose .25 liters of blood every midnight. If you're destroyed, any souls you've collected are lost to the abyss.

If you get one bite per night, then you hold steady on the vital. Good luck finding people willing to accept the bites. Quite a number of people in my months as a vampire verbally attack people who ask for a bite. If you send a bite without asking first, expect to be ARd at best, or insulted at the very least.

Prepare to be banned automatically at a lot of sims including Transylvania (ironic, huh?).

Of course, if you don't want to have the hassle of feeding, you can buy blood for various amounts of money, or you can buy a forever amulet at 8000L that protects you from the curse.

Honestly, if it's your thing, go for it.

Most people in bloodlines don't roleplay. Those that do are still reviled.

Hope you have a thick skin.

The only thing bloodlines did for me was provide me with an income this month when I quit. In spite of the whining about how much I was charging for souls in my possession, vampires still bought them. I'm now able to pay tier on my open sim, and have a lot of fun on slx.

Not to mention pay for the rental on my monthly stream.

Yep, have fun, new vampire.

It would just be "good RP" as well .

It's silly for them to try and defend the notion that humans would be nothing more than helpless walking bloodbanks when you'd have a few thousand spampires attacking everything in sight in a city-sized population. Everyone would be prepared to deal with them as soon as word got out.

I wouldn't mind it at all if clicking "No" on the bite brought up a different menu with "Stake", "Burn", "Spray with holy water" retalliation options .

I tried to be a vampire once,had to quite though found out i really sucked at it.

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@Dementia: I don't partake in formal rp anymore but I am a vampire in SL and live there as one. I used to roleplay extensively at various places or know people who do roleplay in them, you might want to check out these out:

City of Lost Angels
Crossroads
Erie
Toxia
Phantasma

Let's have an example of how you'd roleplay an approach and bite, then

If it's a relatively decent bit of textual stuff (and not just "/me bites Avatar X" that you type out where your intended victim can read it then yeah, I'd call it roleplay. But if it's: "click HUD to scan, spot unbitten avatar, click HUD to offer bite" then that isn't roleplay by ANY stretch of the imagination.

Cheree Bury did one, it's free.

1. Which I'd have to pay for, increasing the revenue of the people who developed the game which annoyed me in the first place. "No thanks" springs to mind.
2. But you need to reject it, or walk round with a blue dialogue box at the top of your screen.
3. So adding another set of pests is a good idea?
4. How do you know what I know about Bloodlines? About vampires? RP in general?
5. Leave my socially interactive, non-competitive, ever-changing user-designed virtual world for a linear, proscribed quest game filled with people whose idea of RP is how much stuff they can kill for their next level and who interact on the level of 'pwnd j00 n00b"*. And I get to pay for the dubious privilege.

* Hasty generalisation. There are nice people playing WoW, I even know some iRL. But it's a competitive game where aggression is rewarded and it attracts aggressive players. Not what I, or most of the folks sick of spampires are looking for.

I suck at scripts, but I do model and texture well. I can design a garlic necklace, and have someone else here script it.

It's not just the bite spammers you gotta watch out for, it's all the bloody clans too. They fight amongst each other constantly. I was a Bloodlines Vampire for all of a week and just got sick of the constant messages about Drama. It just spoiled the whole experience. They accuse eachother of all sorts. If you want my advice keep well away. Bloodlines is nothing but trouble.

Hi, I have been a member Of Ravenswood, A Mostly Terran Clan In NOR, Im a raven Guardian
Hence The land of ravenswood, NOR has 8-9 Role playing Continents, which mostly border each other.

There are Demonkind, and a Drakula Sim + many other races.

But also within my clan, is members who are vamps, Who use poison skills to weaken apponents, These vamps have to feed when they have been injured, in our hospitals, we often offer (vitae) Life or Energy to them to recover, so they use Bloodlife on u, and take some life out of you. But they always ask first, and the only ones that take blood to weaken you on purpose, is always the demonikas or a Vamp allied to our enemys, even then this is in RP, and most of the roleplayers abide by the NOR rules when they joined.

The Bloodlines RP should be kept within the RP world I believe and not around second life in general. I had one Bloodline Vamp jump up on stage and bite me, where upon i got an invite to go to a webpage, but as I already RP in NOR i didnt take it up.

Having said that, I was asked if it would be ok, so she did not force me to do it, but as im rather partial to sexy vamps I let her do it lol

So if you would like to experiance a differant approach to Vamps and demon RP Please Consider NOR which uses the WARP Meter Equipment. A List of Approved vendors of Melle & Firearms is available to see, on the official website.

happy Biting!

Mich

I don't even know if this would be possible, but here is what someone needs to make....

A script that not only does a stake through the heart/screaming invective/whatever animation, but that also takes AWAY whatever "blood" or "souls" these idiots have already earned. Drain _them_ completely dry.

If they find out they LOSE whatever they have built up whenever they spam, maybe they'll stop.

Would this be possible? I'd pay for it, if it were NOT sold by the scum who created/runs the "game".

1 reverse what?? some silly thing tell me im something im not. I can just remove any thing attached to me and dam if im not cured> WHy should i buy something to fix something iam not interested.
2 As said before you dont need to spam me with it after all HELLOOOO you wont die if you dont bite me. I mean i have not eaten, drank , or craped in SL come to think of it and im doing well health wise
3 In my time in SL which is over 2 yrs i have only had at most 5 beggars and hell they IM me to ask and went when i said no. Freeloaders again only a handful and when when i said no as for con artiest not one. But Vamps hell heaps of them
4 I know about RP been involved in gorean RP and was a member of Dead End for some time and neither times did iuse a weapon or force my RP on anyone outside of the sim. As for my knowledge of Bloodline not real hard to work out its a case of some guys who are god at scripting have got you lot buying their stuff over and over so they get rich and you get a new toy.
5 How canyou be sure i dont play Warcraft?

As for your comment about your social life on the up and up i wonder how your RL social is going ?

Today a vamp informed me that ALL of SL is their RP area wished the Lindens would of informed me of the take over .. can i get a refund ?

For the record, the WARPS system was ripped off from CCS. The creator of CCS allowed the NOR admins access to source code and the database when there was an agreement to share roleplay across their sims, this was in order to make compatible addons and help fix bugs only and not for any other purposes. This was agreement ended when the NOR admins brought out WARPS 1.0 which still connected to the CCS database in ways that only the original code would, even to the point of still having the bugs that CCS had at that version. It was not a simple reimplementation at all - it was a blatant theft of the code and release of a new product using it.
At that time many CCS users left NOR and WARPS disgusted at what had occurred. For this reason I will never patronise a WARPS enabled sim or frequent NOR unless it changes hands to another set of owner/admins and changes the combat sytem in use to something that was not stolen.
Maybe you are wondering why WARPS is still around and why it has not been taken down? The creator DMCA'd the system and the NOR admins counterfiled in dispute and so the takedown was never done. In cases like this the person defending their IP must take the other to court to resolve it.
The creator of CCS only barely manages to financially survive each month to provide City of Lost Angels and the CCS as a labour of love for people who want to roleplay in SL. She does this with assistance from others who give their energies freely I believe for the most part.
She has no financial ability to initiate a court case against those who have wronged her to the point where LL would remove the system and so decided to let let the issue drop and spend her energies focusing on moving CCS along to the point where WARPS would be clearly inferior anyway.

Here is the link for those interested in reading further: http://ccs-gametech.com/print.php?type=N&item_id=124

Bloodlines is not really RP. It is a game designed to make money for the creator, much like the Warcraft thing you mentioned.

If a newbie is biten because they were conned, thought it was a hug or just did not know the consiquenses, there is a potion to reverse it like you said. This potion cost money. But then the game is about making money for the creator.

I also like the line you put in about beggers, freeloaders and con-artists. Just FYI, that is the reputation that Bloodline players have. You are correct that a person has to accept the bite invitation, but that does not prevent the repetivative invites typical of turning down the initial request or the random and unwanted invites with out so much as a word being exchanged first.

Point 4 -- I played for about a month because a girl I knew was into it. I left because I saw that it is a constant money sink if you do not wish to push your RP on others. It is almost a good system. It needs Blood Thralls for a start; and in my opinion any vampire system that does not support them is incomplete. Dump the daily loss all together and base the loss on time spent in world with a huge loss for time spent in a sim where it is day time. But then, the game is not really a RP system, it is a means to generate money. There is nothing wrong with making a profit but there are too many points that seem more in the lines of making an extra buck over fitting the RP elements.

What is there is well written with solid implimentation. The game has a large player base and I believe it would be full self-sustainable without the need to seek out new people to bite every day by it's players. in fact, I think it would increase it's longevity to eliminate the need to do so. Like it or not, Bloodlines has a reputation and it ain't good. Attacking the people that relay this reputation only servers to add validity to their opinions. If you love the Bloodlines game and want to see it survive, you need to take your concerns to the developers. Let them know how people feel about the game. Let them know how people feel about you because you play the game. Look around your own caln and see how many do not wear their title while out in public areas. It's a great game and it would be a shame for it to go to waste.

Unless it changed from when I played, only the first bite gave you blood. You could buy things that allowed you to take a larger portion of blood or you could buy items that make you immune to the daily loss for a short time.

Actually, only Bloodlines players need the potion to restore their soul or whatever....anyone who isn't interested in playing can contact the owners and they'll remove them from their database, no potion (or L$) necessary. It also sounds like the free garlic necklace does the same thing.

Still not a fan of their spampire empire though...

I so wish there was a way for a script to read all groups instead of only the active one. I would do an immediate eject/ban from my land anyone that is even a member of Bloodlines.

Was working in my shop yesterday when, out of the blue this dialog pops up on my screen. The moron got an immediate eject/ban for his trouble.

Wow. Curse freedom for L$8000? Who built this, Matt Mihaly?

I can understand what they're wanting to do, mind you. Most RPs that I've encountered are very short on "victim" types, largely because a) they're not such fun to play, and b) they're only part of the story for a short time - it isn't worth their while to come into a sim once, get bitten, then "die" and leave. But using the general public isn't a good solution.

Actually, I wish they'd implement the idea of making "avatar" a buildable object type, so that these sims could just have scripted NPCs for people to bite.

*sniffs* They can get sculpty avatars, script them to interact with the HUD and charge the players L$1 per bite. Talk about steady income... How many of the real RPers in that group wouldn't jump at the chance to not have to freaking spam the rest of the grid for their daily bread.. err, blood?

Quoted for Truth.

All rpgs have a rule system. Otherwise i could fly my giant bat made out of piano keys into a cyberpunk setting. See where im coming from ?

If played out a certain way - speaking form my own, text base days - the 'victim' does not die, does not become a vampire (become infected) and can always come back for more RP as a Human or whatever other race they are.

Now, I was not the most pleasant person in text based RP when it came to the actions of a few jerk types .. In fact, most of my old RP website was dedicated to pissed off reactions and rules.

quoted below ... is the description of the Vampire types I played, and how I played them off:

That was something they added along with the garlic silliness. There are these apple things they are selling for 15 or 20L apiece that let an avatar grow new blood or something along those lines. I'm guessing this apple stuff is for alts, there can't be too many people getting in line to pay to get spammed