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Tiziana Catteneo
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Join date: 19 Feb 2007
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02-09-2009 12:41
Remember me? Yes I am giving the item you rated really poor for free and I thank you for let me know how things work.... never have more that 10000 l$ in SL and stay away from Xstreet easy bans |
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Tiziana Catteneo
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Join date: 19 Feb 2007
Posts: 187
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02-09-2009 12:54
I provided Xstreet with a copy of your product, so they could see for themselves that it wasn't full permissions What I can do if there is a problem with asset servers? Before reporting me you shoul ask another copy. We are OT and I have to cash out so pls send me a pm. |
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Ginger Glimmer
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Join date: 15 Nov 2006
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02-09-2009 12:54
You know Tiziana - anyone on the forums would have gladly helped you out - including me. But you have demonstrated over and over through this incident that you accept no responsibility whatsoever for your actions. It's everyone else's fault. I gave your item a 3-star rating on product. You lost 2 stars because you didn't deliver the product as advertised and refused to provide any customer service to make things right, and you refused to modify your listing to show the correct permissions. Instead, you made every effort to circumvent my review. As I see that other merchants of Xstreet are also posting on this thread, they will also confirm that this is a violation of the TOS.
And thank you for the offer, but I will decline it. While you're product is above average, your integrity as a merchant is questionable and I prefer to give my business elsewhere. Regards, Ginger Glimmer Edited to add: Now you're blaming the asset servers? You're digging yourself in deeper Tiziana. Keep in mind that I still have your PMs to me and they reflect far different reasons why your items were no modify. Yes I am giving the item you rated really poor for free and I thank you for let me know how things work.... never have more that 10000 l$ in SL and stay away from Xstreet easy bans |
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Tiziana Catteneo
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Join date: 19 Feb 2007
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02-09-2009 13:05
I sent an email to Xstreet and they don't aswer.
I can understand how you feel after you bought an item that I told you was full perm but you received with partial perms, I probably know what happened but if xstreet send me warning messages usin virtuatrade domain that I receive in the unwanted mails how can I help you? |
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Tiziana Catteneo
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Join date: 19 Feb 2007
Posts: 187
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02-09-2009 13:21
Again and probably banned there is nothing I can do becouse xstreet support doesn't work if they ban people and delete their 2 years of work not giving them a second chance.
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Tiziana Catteneo
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Join date: 19 Feb 2007
Posts: 187
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02-09-2009 13:30
When I was noob LL staff helped me to learn about how this virtual world is the right place to know good friends (they banned who called me a bitc... ) I always think that it's a game and I don't want peoples think I am a scammer.
I am a 3d modeler in real life and I have fun selling my things and proud to be banned from others famous 3d modelers islands. Damn I was at the beginning of a 3d famous SL modeler slave carrier but they kicked me ![]() Sorry I am OT |
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Wiseguy Capra
Resident Wenzel Hopper
Join date: 21 Jan 2007
Posts: 160
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02-09-2009 13:51
They should just close the SLX forums and open a sub forum here for them. Why have two "official" forums. Uhhm no! Since there is plenty of reasons why some use this forum and others don't. Like all them non-premiums that can't get onto this forum for example. + Both are community forums and some people like it better here, others there. Xstreet staff does a good enough job in moderating their forum, no need to close it. -Wise |
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Gabriele Graves
Always and Forever, FULL
Join date: 23 Apr 2007
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02-09-2009 13:54
Uhhm no! Since there is plenty of reasons why some use this forum and others don't. Like all them non-premiums that can't get onto this forum for example. + Both are community forums and some people like it better here, others there. Xstreet staff does a good enough job in moderating their forum, no need to close it. -Wise |
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Tiziana Catteneo
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Join date: 19 Feb 2007
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02-09-2009 14:04
You are out becouse we know you are a noob and we will not aswer to yours questions
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Wiseguy Capra
Resident Wenzel Hopper
Join date: 21 Jan 2007
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02-09-2009 14:12
F.Y.I. Basic accounts are able to access these forums. Okay, I don't use this forum so much. Back in the days you couldnt access the forum with a non premium or a account that had no payment info on file. One of the too, I cant remember. However, I prefer other boards over this one which is no offence but just how it is. After all, community boards are open to most and people with different tastes or likes will stick to a forum they made friends on. However, I see the bbcode hasn't been fixed in over 2 years.. rofl. -Wise _____________________
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Ceka Cianci
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02-09-2009 14:13
Tiziana how the heck did you delete your post?
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Wiseguy Capra
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02-09-2009 14:14
Yeah I realised the same, my last reply vanished too.
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Ceka Cianci
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Join date: 31 Jul 2006
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02-09-2009 14:14
Okay, I don't use this forum so much. Back in the days you couldnt access the forum with a non premium or a account that had no payment info on file. One of the too, I cant remember. However, I prefer other boards over this one which is no offence but just how it is. After all, community boards are open to most and people with different tastes or likes will stick to a forum they made friends on. However, I see the bbcode hasn't been fixed in over 2 years.. rofl. -Wise you can't access it with no payment info on file ..you could always access it with payment info on file.. _____________________
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Gabriele Graves
Always and Forever, FULL
Join date: 23 Apr 2007
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02-09-2009 14:15
Okay, I don't use this forum so much. Back in the days you couldnt access the forum with a non premium or a account that had no payment info on file. One of the too, I cant remember. However, I prefer other boards over this one which is no offence but just how it is. After all, community boards are open to most and people with different tastes or likes will stick to a forum they made friends on. However, I see the bbcode hasn't been fixed in over 2 years.. rofl. -Wise |
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Ceka Cianci
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Join date: 31 Jul 2006
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02-09-2009 14:17
my mistake..i didn't realize NPIOF could access here..
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Wiseguy Capra
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Join date: 21 Jan 2007
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02-09-2009 14:21
See, this is what I mean.. so the basic 1111 Sl user cant access it.. so why would you go and just close down other boards on which people can actually post. If it is a discussion, failed delivery or issue with a product.. anyone can post on the xstreet forum. No point having a sub-forum here if people can't access it.
And no, I dont want to pick up on the old premium, non premium, payment info, non payment info discussion that has been around forever. Just let the SL forum be the SL forum and the xstreet forum.. well the Xstreet forum. Anyone can then use whatever he feels comfy with and if you are scared of one forum, don't use it, simple as that. The OP's frustration basically comes from him being banned from Xsteet and now wants to get back on there to list his products (understandable), however doesn't matter why he got banned, he got banned. Why should LL delete all bans now to open the entire marketplace up again for all the content thiefs, copy cats and other idiots. There is still plenty of them around and rather than dropping the ban list, they should synch it with their own and at the same time also now only take DMCA's thorugh LL and not Xstreet as well. Edit: I didn't know either about the change in forum access. Guess it never made it to the blog did it? -Wise _____________________
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Ceka Cianci
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Join date: 31 Jul 2006
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02-09-2009 14:35
what if people were banned from Xstreet before and not banned from sl?
bringing a list over from people that were not working for LL at the time i don't see as a good idea.. not if it puts your whole SL at risk. _____________________
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Yumi Murakami
DoIt!AttachTheEarOfACat!
Join date: 27 Sep 2005
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02-09-2009 14:36
The OP's frustration basically comes from him being banned from Xsteet and now wants to get back on there to list his products (understandable), however doesn't matter why he got banned, he got banned. Why should LL delete all bans now to open the entire marketplace up again for all the content thiefs, copy cats and other idiots. There is still plenty of them around and rather than dropping the ban list, they should synch it with their own and at the same time also now only take DMCA's thorugh LL and not Xstreet as well. Because, although we might not like it, the _possibility_ of getting on people's nerves and coming into conflict with them is a necessary part of life. For a long while a long while ago there were some residents who were paranoid about being banned from anyone's land. The reason being that most people, when they buy land direct from someone else, don't clear the ban list - assuming that there's a reason for everyone on it to be there. So, you have a dispute with someone on their land and they ban you (as they have a right to) but then suddenly two or three sales down the road, when the "next big thing" is on that land, you find yourself banned from it! There were even feature cries for the "reason why someone was banned" to be added to the ban list, so that future land owners would be able to see it. This wasn't quite as much a problem as people seemed to fear it was, and now many land sales are through dealers anyway. But this policy on Xstreet is essentially entrenching that and making it even worse. It creates a situation where you can't risk annoying ANYONE who runs a 3rd party site, because they might be an official Linden service - and a defacto monopoly - tomorrow. Which isn't good for development or for the market! |
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Tiziana Catteneo
Registered User
Join date: 19 Feb 2007
Posts: 187
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02-09-2009 14:36
No I think there is a good reson
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Gabriele Graves
Always and Forever, FULL
Join date: 23 Apr 2007
Posts: 6,205
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02-09-2009 14:48
See, this is what I mean.. so the basic 1111 Sl user cant access it. No there was no blog entry, it was just allowed. We all noticed when new NPIOF's started posting questions. |
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Tiziana Catteneo
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Join date: 19 Feb 2007
Posts: 187
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02-09-2009 14:58
You will stay banned if Slexchange banned you
Now I would like to know if virtuatrade employes will be able to ban SL accounts |
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Jazzman Jibilla
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Join date: 19 Jan 2007
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02-09-2009 15:55
I believe what people are 'thinking' is that since XStreetSL is now owned by and part of LL (to be even further assimilated in time), that it has become part of the service available as a resident of SL, and that withholding that part of SL from a resident, especially a (paying) premium member, is not fair. Kenbro makes sense in both forums. If an xst ban was a forum related ban then I suppose it could stand, but withholding the grid wide marketplace from a slitizen in good standing needs some serious looking at. LL should assign a couple of folks not related to xst's past, the job of reviewing the bans. Justice must be seen to be done, at the least. |
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Gabriele Graves
Always and Forever, FULL
Join date: 23 Apr 2007
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02-09-2009 16:37
Kenbro makes sense in both forums. If an xst ban was a forum related ban then I suppose it could stand, but withholding the grid wide marketplace from a slitizen in good standing needs some serious looking at. LL should assign a couple of folks not related to xst's past, the job of reviewing the bans. Justice must be seen to be done, at the least. My opinion is that if a merchant is proven to be violating the rules for listing their products or gains significant customer complaints on the now LL-owned XStreetSL website, then they do not deserve sales access to that resource. That is far better than banning them from SL entirely which would be the other alternative. Some sort of review and appeal process should be implemented though. It is just a shame the same principles cannot be applied to inworld selling imo. |
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Katheryne Helendale
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02-09-2009 20:34
my mistake..i didn't realize NPIOF could access here.. _____________________
Of course, its all just another conspiracy, and I'm a conspiracy nut. Need a high-quality custom or pre-fab home? Please check out my XStreetSL Marketplace at http://www.xstreetsl.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&MerchantID=231434/ or IM me in-world. |
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Maggie Morgan
The Fish Lady
Join date: 26 Mar 2004
Posts: 97
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02-09-2009 20:35
You will stay banned if Slexchange banned you Now I would like to know if virtuatrade employes will be able to ban SL accounts Good question since Virtuatrade employees are now Linden Lab employees. _____________________
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