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Kenbro Utu
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01-29-2009 01:05
From: Ceka Cianci
i'm not understanding the whole premium account thing..they have premium accounts on xstreet now?


I believe what people are 'thinking' is that since XStreetSL is now owned by and part of LL (to be even further assimilated in time), that it has become part of the service available as a resident of SL, and that withholding that part of SL from a resident, especially a (paying) premium member, is not fair.
madddyyy Schnook
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01-29-2009 02:24
HI Tanner, yes i have also recieved an email saying i am still banned for trying to Protect my own items being resold by resellers. Tried to protect and make people aware by posting the link to MY own listing it was stolen from. they very kindly banned me and ignored a dmca via email saying it never reached them although i had and still have the email here.

I think the admins should be replaced as they have proved in the past they ban those in competetion and whom point out things they wish to keep quiet.

The ban hammer fell on many many people whom spoke about anshe ( me included ).

If an account has good standing and is active in secondlife, then so it should be on xstreeet.
Ceka Cianci
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01-29-2009 03:52
premium never has gotten anyone more than live support ,the option to buy mainland and half back in stripend..why would people think it is gonna change now?? because LL bought something that is online and not inworld?

if we get banned in these forums we can get banned in SL..xstreet works the same way with the merchants..

only they have mods and admins there.and people that kiss up to them and they have their favorites and they also have their power trips i'm sure..
i sure wouldn't go over there feeling as free as we have it in here.. that's a whole other entity that sits outside of second life as far as i am concerned until it makes it's way in..

would anyone really want them to have the power to ban SL accounts if they are getting ban happy on xstreet?
start asking for rights and privleges to something like that cause you think you are premium and you end up having that system able to pull your whole business from you because,with an xstreet ban they would be able to ban you from SL..
Screw that..
and screw those forums.. the longer they keep them seperated the better as far as i'm concerned
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01-29-2009 05:12
I have a feeling that forum behavior at XStreet can now cause your SL account to be closed.
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Tanner Devonshire
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01-29-2009 05:33
From: Ceka Cianci
premium never has gotten anyone more than live support ,the option to buy mainland and half back in stripend..why would people think it is gonna change now?? because LL bought something that is online and not inworld?

if we get banned in these forums we can get banned in SL..xstreet works the same way with the merchants..

only they have mods and admins there.and people that kiss up to them and they have their favorites and they also have their power trips i'm sure..
i sure wouldn't go over there feeling as free as we have it in here.. that's a whole other entity that sits outside of second life as far as i am concerned until it makes it's way in..

would anyone really want them to have the power to ban SL accounts if they are getting ban happy on xstreet?
start asking for rights and privleges to something like that cause you think you are premium and you end up having that system able to pull your whole business from you because,with an xstreet ban they would be able to ban you from SL..
Screw that..
and screw those forums.. the longer they keep them seperated the better as far as i'm concerned

I agree and I want nothing to do with their forums, it is clogged up with useless game posts anyway, you can't find anything of use there. But when someone copies my stuff and markets it there, I want to be able to do something about it. I think LL will do a much better job with the market anyway, and if it is a feature of an account in SL, I want that feature since my preferred site is being shut down. It was luck of the draw, had they kept OnRez up and migrated XStreet to that site, there wouldn't have been any problems for so many of us. I am curious as to the number of banned accounts, I wish they would release that information, along with what products were being sold at the time of the ban.
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Ceka Cianci
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01-29-2009 06:11
From: Tanner Devonshire
I agree and I want nothing to do with their forums, it is clogged up with useless game posts anyway, you can't find anything of use there. But when someone copies my stuff and markets it there, I want to be able to do something about it. I think LL will do a much better job with the market anyway, and if it is a feature of an account in SL, I want that feature since my preferred site is being shut down. It was luck of the draw, had they kept OnRez up and migrated XStreet to that site, there wouldn't have been any problems for so many of us. I am curious as to the number of banned accounts, I wish they would release that information, along with what products were being sold at the time of the ban.

i kind of hope they work those forums the way they do these and dump the mods and admins and let the people in the forums mod themselves..
then if there is a situation it's delt with by going to the people that handle it..

i can surely sympathize with you about the theft and ya i think once LL gets a hold over there and gets the TOS adjusted and a bunch of other things maybe we'll see these admins and mods use a little more care..

the community should be able to have some say if mods and admins are out of control or on a ban happy spree..
it's LL's now not the former owners so they need to adjust to us not the other way around..

cause if people start getting banned for posting too many times, they'll just end up hurting LL because people will be afraid to use the place..

i used to head admin a few gaming forums and nothing pissed me off more than a mod or admin on a power trip..it was instant bye bye for them..

they should clean house there before they clean house on the posters..

then hold applications for admins and mods and if you don't fit the criteria you don't come back to mod or admin..
that's just crazy to have someone besides LL able to ban an SL account..
it leaves way too much room to be corrupted..
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madddyyy Schnook
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01-29-2009 07:39
From: Ceka Cianci
i kind of hope they work those forums the way they do these and dump the mods and admins and let the people in the forums mod themselves..
then if there is a situation it's delt with by going to the people that handle it..

i can surely sympathize with you about the theft and ya i think once LL gets a hold over there and gets the TOS adjusted and a bunch of other things maybe we'll see these admins and mods use a little more care..

the community should be able to have some say if mods and admins are out of control or on a ban happy spree..
it's LL's now not the former owners so they need to adjust to us not the other way around..

cause if people start getting banned for posting too many times, they'll just end up hurting LL because people will be afraid to use the place..

i used to head admin a few gaming forums and nothing pissed me off more than a mod or admin on a power trip..it was instant bye bye for them..

they should clean house there before they clean house on the posters..

then hold applications for admins and mods and if you don't fit the criteria you don't come back to mod or admin..
that's just crazy to have someone besides LL able to ban an SL account..
it leaves way too much room to be corrupted..


I want to see them removed as they have proved in the past they are ban happy, one has already left/been pushed/sacked but seems to think he is still there. maybe he/she still is.

A fresh site with a fresh start.
Loki Ball
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01-29-2009 07:47
Got the same message from support as well. Mine all stemmed from a forum ban by the moderators who were not affiliated with SL at all at the time and were merely regular members and merchants of SL. It wasn't because of anything illegal, or something to do with my sales or products. It definitely didn't have anything to do with my account with Linden Labs. In fact my account is still in good standing with Linden Labs.... as far as I know ;)
Ceka Cianci
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01-29-2009 07:50
From: madddyyy Schnook
I want to see them removed as they have proved in the past they are ban happy, one has already left/been pushed/sacked but seems to think he is still there. maybe he/she still is.

A fresh site with a fresh start.

well here is the thing..they get that kind of power they don't just think it is limited to those forums..what is to stop them from wandering over here getting pissed at someone and then pulling a ban over there for some silly offense or what they call an offense..

i had admins and mods bringing stuff that happened to them from other forums all the time..
oh he pissed me off over at blabla gamers so i'm banning him here..

i would be .like hell you are ..you do that and you color yourself gone mister..

ya clean house on them for sure..
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Inflame Alter
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01-29-2009 08:05
It would make sense that everything should be rolled over into a fresh start since new owners (Linden Labs) have acquired these markets. LL will want to make the most profits they can in their new business(Xstreets). Retaining questionable bans would limit their numbers of sellers and buyers, reducing the amount of money to be made.

In the interest of profits, Linden Labs would be negligent not to open Xstreets up to all who want to do business there.
Cappy Frantisek
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01-29-2009 08:14
From: Inflame Alter
It would make sense that everything should be rolled over into a fresh start since new owners (Linden Labs) have acquired these markets. LL will want to make the most profits they can in their new business(Xstreets). Retaining questionable bans would limit their numbers of sellers and buyers, reducing the amount of money to be made.

In the interest of profits, Linden Labs would be negligent not to open Xstreets up to all who want to do business there.

Ssssssssh! That is unless they have banned the alt you created to get around the original ban! :eek:
madddyyy Schnook
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01-29-2009 08:37
From: Cappy Frantisek
Ssssssssh! That is unless they have banned the alt you created to get around the original ban! :eek:


LOL, well the old slx mods even banned staff of mine including 2 ex staff not even connected to me, they must think i am made of money paying out for 4 premium accounts as alts. lol

They must have never heard of a router before. I have 2 part time RL staff and they banned them, purely based on the ip range.
Loki Ball
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01-29-2009 08:42
My girl friend was also banned along with me. She lives with me in RL and never wrote in the forums. Have no clue why she was banned and she never got a response from emails she wrote to support. I assume its because its the same IP. Doesn't make it right tho. When she created the account we didn't even live together... In fact lived a thousand or so miles away lol. I suppose I could spoof an IP to do that or something but creating the time machine to go back and set all that up before being banned would be the difficult part. :P
Kyllie Wylie
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01-29-2009 09:31
They should just close the SLX forums and open a sub forum here for them.
Why have two "official" forums.
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Tanner Devonshire
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01-29-2009 10:56
Interesting, according to a friend, at least one banned member was reinstated by LL and XStreet SL and has posted in the forums there. Congrats Jazzman!!!
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Ceka Cianci
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01-29-2009 11:05
they can't ban what they can't see..it's neenja time..you can't get banned if you don't post
and all my content is my stuff from scratch so they try and pull some trade mark crap on me.. they will find out who's it is lol MINE!!! :D
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Tiziana Catteneo
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02-08-2009 09:39
Some days ago I received a warn from a virtuatrade employe telling that I was violating xstreet TOS.
I received it in the unwanted mail folder so I wrogly considered it a spam message or someone who was trying to scam me.

Who is virtuatrade? Is the new linden lab staff or the old SLbanexchange one?

If it's the new staff I am very scary... will they be able to easyban sl accounts in the future?
Puppet Shepherd
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02-08-2009 10:05
From: Tiziana Catteneo
Some days ago I received a warn from a virtuatrade employe telling that I was violating xstreet TOS.
I received it in the unwanted mail folder so I wrogly considered it a spam message or someone who was trying to scam me.

Who is virtuatrade? Is the new linden lab staff or the old SLbanexchange one?

If it's the new staff I am very scary... will they be able to easyban sl accounts in the future?

My Googling indicates Virtuatrade is the old "SLbanexchange" owner. Since LL is keeping the old staff, you may have reason to be concerned. I'd file a support ticket with LL to ask about it.
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Puppet Shepherd
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02-08-2009 19:52
Tiziana, I just tried to send a friend to your Xstreet store for a sculpty map and it's gone! Have you been banninated already? Criminy, I better stop posting in this thread before I find myself banned for some silly reason too!
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Snickers Snook
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02-08-2009 21:17
From: Tegg Bode
No, you are meaning the Resident Question Forum which is the correct place for residents to post questions, this is Resident Answers.

No no no. This is Resident Abuse. Resident Answers is down the hall. A very longgg hall.
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Tiziana Catteneo
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02-09-2009 00:52
From: Puppet Shepherd
Tiziana, I just tried to send a friend to your Xstreet store for a sculpty map and it's gone!


Yes they deleted it, I am also trying to sell all my stores land in nautilus and bay city to cash out most of all the L$ I have in the game, when things like this happen you realize that you can loose everything without having a second chance.

I will stop post here too...
Tiziana Catteneo
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02-09-2009 10:50
Uh last question pls I was listing my items using another service.

What happen if someone sell my full perm items using Xstreet and support don't anwers to my mails becouse I am banned?

Do I need a 100 linden dollars / hour lawyer to protect my IP rights?


Virtuatrade/slexchange/xstreet/xstreetSL never aswered to my last mail, and I was only asking them explanations.
Calm Ashton
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02-09-2009 12:08
I too was banned, i dont know what to think really about that whole situation, my feelings are that they should lift all ban's. Being formerly owned by private individuals with a vested interest in second life, its reallly difficult to say exacly if their intentions were really for all the right reasons. They could easily just sit and wait to sabotage competing buisness with unfounded ban's, after all i am confident when i say exposure is a big part of sales.
Ginger Glimmer
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02-09-2009 12:32
One of the reasons people are banned is because they don't pay attention to the TOS as you have demonstrated with your post.

Remember me? I'm quite sure you do as I'm the one who reported you. So let's recap. You listed an item which you advertised as full permissions. Only it wasn't full permissions when I received it. I contacted you and you refused to provide customer service to make it right. So I left a review informing others the product wasn't full permissions as advertised (among other things). You then deactivated that listing and relisted the item to circumvent my review, not once, but twice. Clear violations of the TOS -- false advertising, relisting items. Knowing all of this was going on, you then ignored emails from Xstreet. Duhhhhhhh

As requested, I provided Xstreet with a copy of your product, so they could see for themselves that it wasn't full permissions as you were claiming. All you had to do was change your listing to show that it was copy/transfer only. But you chose to be dishonest about it.

It's a good reminder to all who are reading and commenting on this post that there is always more than one side to each story.




From: Tiziana Catteneo
Some days ago I received a warn from a virtuatrade employe telling that I was violating xstreet TOS.
I received it in the unwanted mail folder so I wrogly considered it a spam message or someone who was trying to scam me.

Who is virtuatrade? Is the new linden lab staff or the old SLbanexchange one?

If it's the new staff I am very scary... will they be able to easyban sl accounts in the future?
Tiziana Catteneo
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02-09-2009 12:33
You have to tell people that if they receive an email from virtuatrade it's the same thing of Xstreet or linden lab
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