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Nina Stepford
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06-25-2008 20:26
'entitlement' is demanding that you turn off autoreturn so that i may squat, or becoming upset when auto return is on. 'entitlement' is not rezzing prims on build-enabled land.
'respect' would be honouring the land owners wishes, which you assume to be that of your own even when they not only have build on and autoreturn off, but they dont even visit the parcel.
i have parcels that i have visited in months. im not sure what state of mind i would have to be in if i ventured there, found a squatter, and felt disrespected :rolleyes:
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06-25-2008 20:31
From: Nina Stepford
'entitlement' is demanding that you turn off autoreturn so that i may squat, or becoming upset when auto return is on. 'entitlement' is not rezzing prims on build-enabled land.
'respect' would be honouring the land owners wishes, which you assume to be that of your own even when they not only have build on and autoreturn off, but they dont even visit the parcel.
i have parcels that i have visited in months. im not sure what state of mind i would have to be in if i ventured there, found a squatter, and felt disrespected :rolleyes:


No respect is asking before you use the land for your purposes.

Assuming that it's okay is a sense of self-entitlement to use anything that isn't locked down as yours.

It's like walking over to the neighbors and grabbing the lawnmower sitting outside on their porch to cut your grass while they are not home.

Just because it's digital doesn't change basic good manners to ask permission first.

Taking advantage of them maybe having left build on with no auto return is the same thing as borrowing without permission.
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Osgeld Barmy
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06-25-2008 20:33
i don't see how you can feel disrespected over something you obviously don't care about because ...

A) you haven't been there in months
B) you didn't bother to check 2 boxes to protect yourself from such activity

is squatting nice? no
is squatting rude? yes

should you be surprised if your property is stolen because you forgot to lock the doors and left for a significant amount of time? no
Nina Stepford
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06-25-2008 20:37
so ppl ask before walking over my land then? if not, is it disrespectful behaviour indicative of a sense of entitlement?
banlines are there for a reason mate. if youre so offended at the notion of people rezzing a prim on your land or whatnot there are tools there to help you. auto return on, build off, object entry off, banlines up. then nobody can disrespect you, right?
ready to stop with the rl analogies yet? you realise those can swing either direction. what does stealing a rl lawnmower have to do with sl squatting?
From: MortVent Charron
No respect is asking before you use the land for your purposes.

Assuming that it's okay is a sense of self-entitlement to use anything that isn't locked down as yours.

It's like walking over to the neighbors and grabbing the lawnmower sitting outside on their porch to cut your grass while they are not home.

Just because it's digital doesn't change basic good manners to ask permission first.

Taking advantage of them maybe having left build on with no auto return is the same thing as borrowing without permission.
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06-25-2008 20:38
From: Osgeld Barmy
i don't see how you can feel disrespected over something you obviously don't care about because ...

A) you haven't been there in months
B) you didn't bother to check 2 boxes to protect yourself from such activity

is squatting nice? no
is squatting rude? yes

should you be surprised if your property is stolen because you forgot to lock the doors and left for a significant amount of time? no


So you wouldn't mind someone borrowing your lawnmower while you left it out in the yard and went to the store?

You don't know why they had the land set up, many have sandbox lots for them and friends to use.

Also many new land owners don't know how to set the options.

Hell you have no idea how long they have been away unless you ask.

you respect property as much in real life or is it because it's digital that it don't matter to you, never mind the fact the land owner pays real money for the use of those prims and land.

(and lets not forget empty lots on the same sim do add to prim limits on all of the owned lots by that person.)
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Osgeld Barmy
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06-25-2008 20:42
im not talking about a lawnmower

im talking about public access computer space, which ive already stated i didnt mind ppl using

if i did i would bother to check the 2 boxes, sure it might take a whole 1/4 of a second to do, but then i would have laid down the law

some of you need to learn the differences tween a cartoon and real life, er actually no go paint a "hole" on that brick wall and run in to it, that would add even more amusement to this thread

and i dont understand the difference tween a friend squatting and a stranger squatting, infact im squatting on a buddys land right now, he put me in a group, i can do whatever i want but noone else can

its either public or private, you have the tools to do it either way
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06-25-2008 20:43
From: Nina Stepford
so ppl ask before walking over my land then? if not, is it disrespectful behaviour indicative of a sense of entitlement?
banlines are there for a reason mate. if youre so offended at the notion of people rezzing a prim on your land or whatnot there are tools there to help you. auto return on, build off, object entry off, banlines up. then nobody can disrespect you, right?
ready to stop with the rl analogies yet? you realise those can swing either direction. what does stealing a rl lawnmower have to do with sl squatting?


both are paid for with real money.

borrowing both without permission is rude and shows a lack of respect.

I know it's hard to understand for many in the world.
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06-25-2008 20:45
From: MortVent Charron
both are paid for with real money.

borrowing both without permission is rude and shows a lack of respect.

I know it's hard to understand for many in the world.


cept with your real life property you cant hit a button and take care of the situation!

if you dont want it, hit the button, if you find some one remove them with a button hit 2 more and be done with it, then theres no way someone can barrow your lawnmower
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06-25-2008 20:46
From: Osgeld Barmy
im not talking about a lawnmower

im talking about public access computer space, which ive already stated i didnt mind ppl using

if i did i would bother to check the 2 boxes, sure it might take a whole 1/4 of a second to do, but then i would have laid down the law

some of you need to learn the differences tween a cartoon and real life, er actually no go paint a "hole" on that brick wall and run in to it, that would add even more amusement to this thread


And maybe you need to understand that respect and manners don't end when one steps into the digital world.
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Osgeld Barmy
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06-25-2008 20:47
lol

respect and manners mean nothing to the wrong person, lock your shit if you dont want it gone
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06-25-2008 20:47
From: Osgeld Barmy
cept with your real life property you cant hit a button and take care of the situation!

if you dont want it, hit the button, if you find some one remove them with a button hit 2 more and be done with it, then theres no way someone can barrow your lawnmower


sure you can, it's called 911 on speed dial.

and why the angry typing? It's just a digital forum accessible by all? Surely no reason to feel all angry about someone's typing or actions.
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Nina Stepford
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06-25-2008 20:48
everything is paid for with real money. you are not making sense.
i pay real money for rl electricity. is it disrespectful of my neighbour to benefit from the illumination of my porch light when she comes home at night? is it her sense of entitlement that stops her from coming over and asking me my permission before using that light to her advantage every night? should i file an AR with the council?
From: MortVent Charron
both are paid for with real money.

borrowing both without permission is rude and shows a lack of respect.

I know it's hard to understand for many in the world.
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06-25-2008 20:49
how do you feel im typing angery

guess now your a mind reader

a bad one becuase im laughing at 90% of this thread

its hard to be mr angry typer with a 4 inch grin on your face

now quit amusing me, i have a bunch of scripting to do tonight (after that ill be mr angry typer)
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06-25-2008 20:50
From: Nina Stepford
everything is paid for with real money. you are not making sense.
i pay real money for rl electricity. is it disrespectful of my neighbour to benefit from the illumination of my porch light when she comes home at night? is it her sense of entitlement that stops her from coming over and asking me my permission before using that light to her advantage every night? should i file an AR with the council?



Do you have a fence on your lawn at home?

If not I take it you don't mind people coming and using it for a party and leaving all the trash there in the yard.
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Nina Stepford
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06-25-2008 20:50
oh stop the baiting. it is not becoming and gives the impression that you dont actually have an argument and are hoping to encourage emotive responses.
From: MortVent Charron
sure you can, it's called 911 on speed dial.

and why the angry typing? It's just a digital forum accessible by all? Surely no reason to feel all angry about someone's typing or actions.
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06-25-2008 20:51
From: Osgeld Barmy
how do you feel im typing angery

guess now your a mind reader

a bad one becuase im laughing at 90% of this thread

its hard to be mr angry typer with a 4 inch grin on your face


Post speed, language used, and manner of wording and punctuation.

All show the same patterns as many when angry at postings.
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06-25-2008 20:52
From: MortVent Charron
Do you have a fence on your lawn at home?

If not I take it you don't mind people coming and using it for a party and leaving all the trash there in the yard.


if i could click 1 button to restore it to pristine condition, not at all
Nina Stepford
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06-25-2008 20:52
you didnt answer the question about the light.
no i couldnt care less if ppl have a party in my front lawn, because i can simply autoreturn all the junk in the morning. so no, i couldnt care less.
From: MortVent Charron
Do you have a fence on your lawn at home?

If not I take it you don't mind people coming and using it for a party and leaving all the trash there in the yard.
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06-25-2008 20:54
From: MortVent Charron
Post speed, language used, and manner of wording and punctuation.

All show the same patterns as many when angry at postings.



spped, cause your baiting me and i find it fun (i love forums)
language, eh so im a dirty talker
and my wording, well phht im very abrupt in any conversation

and ! does not mean angry (i guess besides commas that the only one ive used sofar)

excited maybe but thats becuase im having such a good time playing ping pong with you
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06-25-2008 20:54
From: Nina Stepford
oh stop the baiting. it is not becoming and gives the impression that you dont actually have an argument and are hoping to encourage emotive responses.


Actually I'm not caring about your responses.

Your argument is "I'm entitled to use the land because there is no fence around it saying don't"
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06-25-2008 20:58
From: Nina Stepford
you didnt answer the question about the light.
no i couldnt care less if ppl have a party in my front lawn, because i can simply autoreturn all the junk in the morning. so no, i couldnt care less.


So what button clears your home in real life?

I'm just applying your rules there.

no fence, no signs... no owner. Not asking permission, just using the land in their absence


As for the light, that is a straw man. Since you do not lose anything, but are gaining the illumination to light up your property.

A closer example is them using your yard to build a fort on and leaving it when done, while you are gone.
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06-25-2008 21:00
we are not talking about real life there elmer fudd

ok this bores me now

to the op, dont squat its not cool :) unless it starts a forum war
Nina Stepford
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06-25-2008 21:01
is it always your habit to ignore questions while simply pushing forward fresh assertions? i am making a fair effort to address your questions, yet you continually ignore mine.
again, this isnt about entitlement. entitlement implies a right, and i have never suggested that people have a 'right' to squat. i have stated though that it is possible to do under certain circumstances, and i have gone on to say that it is quite incidental for the landowner to stop if they dont like it. 'entitlement' and 'respect' are red herrings. their use is being employed for the sole purpose of clouding the discussion.
From: MortVent Charron
Actually I'm not caring about your responses.

Your argument is "I'm entitled to use the land because there is no fence around it saying don't"
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06-25-2008 21:02
From: Osgeld Barmy
we are not talking about real life there elmer fudd


Umm, yes we are.

We're talking about manners and showing respect for others.

Physical and digital are not the issue, since they apply to both worlds.
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Nina Stepford
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06-25-2008 21:02
well if rl doesnt have an autoreturn feature why are we comparing it to secondlife?
From: MortVent Charron
So what button clears your home in real life?

I'm just applying your rules there.

no fence, no signs... no owner. Not asking permission, just using the land in their absence


As for the light, that is a straw man. Since you do not lose anything, but are gaining the illumination to light up your property.

A closer example is them using your yard to build a fort on and leaving it when done, while you are gone.
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