Expansion of SL: Vertical or Horizontal!!!

And spoil the academic data by mingling with the lab rats?

Either A: it came out of google translator or B: its a word a pseudo-intellectual uses to try and sound like a real intellectual. People who are really knowledgeable might use da big wordsies, but dey uses da onez dat cans be understood by others.

It's just specialist academic language. If you want to succeed in academia, you have to learn the language, same as any other specialist area like medicine, law, or SL, come to that (how would a non-SL person make sense of this sentence: "I tried to rez my AO inworld but didn't have enough prims". Sometimes specialist language is useful as it can be used to describe very precise concepts. At other times, I will admit, it is used to hide ignorance or to deliberately obfuscate.

Gora, here's a few more terms to include to help ensure success:

dialectic
hermeneutic
heterogeneity
meta- (can be used with just about anything)
methodology (extra points if you use it where the word "method" would be more accurate)
problematic (but only if you manage to use it as a noun)
rhizomal

I'm sure you can add to these

Pondex:

http://slurl.com/secondlife/Pondex/128/128/20/

Spinster: It's a whole new paradigm!

I have no idea what the age of the sandbox has to do with the price of cheese in Ahern, but whatever.

The oldest private sandbox I know of was either Federal or Obscure. I don't know if either are still there. I think Perry counts as a private sandbox, too, though it's not called one and they turn build off there on heavy griefing days.

The oldest continually operating sandboxes, though they haven't been operating in the same regions, are Lost Creatures and Furnation.

Coonspiracy has maintained a small sandbox pretty much since the group was created.

You misunderstood my point. I was not claiming that inworld experience should be the only component of a study of SL.

Rather, my point was about the time spent inworld and the tendency of academics to underestimate how much is necessary for a genuine understanding of what they purport to study.

I was claiming that a mere 'few dozen hours' inworld was insufficient grounding for most studies of SL. (Yes, of course you should become familiar with not only the LL official postings and this website in general, but with secondary sources such as the many blogs and articles focused on Second Life.)

As for a study of SL inworld between 2004-2006, those secondary sources, and interviews with those who were inworld during that period, would be your mainstays.

Is that a question? I'm not sure. Long enough for what?



Which other one would you consider, since the thesis is about SL in world? (Isn't it?)



I have.



I'm sorry I don't follow this part. People pay tier on private land, so their sandbox would be around as long as their personal land tier is paid. Some private sandboxes rent ad space, others open their own 'build land' to the public without any strings (other than their private rules.)

I generally expand horizontally when I spend too much time in SL.

I endorse this post.

Is that free?

My checking account says

Mmmmm, potato chips.... My best friend - and worst enemy!

Yep!

The entirety of Second Life exists because Linden Lab wishes it to exist. Every square meter of the virtual world is privately owned. Every posting in this forum is privately owned. It all exists only as long as Linden Lab chooses to continue to allow it to exist. This includes all sandbox areas, whether privately held and run by others, or the "public" ones that are owned and operated solely by Linden Lab.

Tens of thousands of people use Second Life on a daily basis.

If this is a 'research' project (as opposed to the creation of a work of journalism or art), then how could a 'collection and taxonomy of our combined in-world narratives' be accomplished?

I don't mean to jump on someone who's made only two posts; that would be unkind. But I am suggesting that the concepts under discussion here are far broader than could be adequately examined by a single thesis about SL sandboxes.

Gora, did you know that one of the elements of a sandbox is how often it's cleared?

Nearly every sandbox is set to return all objects at a specific interval. In some, it's as short as 15 or 30 minutes.

Some people buy land because they want to be able to leave their work up for as long as it takes to work on it.

I agree with you totally. Apart from that there is auto-run feature. Design in SL in time consuming and it might take several hours. Short Auto-run intervals (2/3/5/6 hours) is one of the reasons that many residents prefer to buy own land.

The auto-run is related to time and SL time follows Pacific standard time. For Example: One User usually has free time after 9 pm. And the autorun duration of any hypothetical sandbox is 5 hours, s/he might find it 2.5 hours because of the time if public sandbox follows Pacific standard time. Most of the SL users are from US so autorun for public sandbox might set as per Pacific standard time and suitability to facilitate the most users.

Since Sandbox are for new users, the rate of new users differ from time to time in different geographic areas. Suppose if the rate of new users are higher in last few months from Africa, the autorun time of public sandbox should be adjusted accordingly to facilitate their need.

I am not sure, arguing hypothetically.

This forum is also a SL world but 2D

The SL in-world refers to 3D world accessible by SL Viewer.

Since 2003, there have been several versions of SL Viewer made available. When you are mentioning SL in-world, you also have to mention which SL viewer you have used to view the SL in-world.

It needs to be that precise...............

Sure they can. They own it, they can do anything they want with it.

In SL viewer is there any search option to find out the name of residents who were registered before 2006 or any given date??

I agree with you and one way to address 'SL sandboxes' is to find the extent of issues/ discourses involved with the use of the concept both SL in-world and Forum.

Sometimes it is impossible to continue discussion on such topic in-world. Because: 1) it is hard to keep log of the postings, 2) often residents in-world prefer spending time as per his/her need rather then engaging in a long discussion, 3) In forum posting, members visit thread and post responses if they feel like.

This topic from the beginning has had, at least for me, the feeling of being almost completely dissociated from the reality that it discusses.

I also get the feeling that there is some complex, rarefied, extremely abstract idea behind Gora's questions, and that it's constructed from pieces of information that in a practical sense don't relate to each other.

Part of the idea seems to stem from investing the word "box" with a magical value, and then elevating "sandbox" to something like an archetype that the rest of SL emanates from. And the time element... maybe Gora identified an event that he sees a a kind of cosmic event that creates a divide.

I don't know.

I'm not trying to poke fun at you, Gora. It's just that the things you say are almost incomprehensible, because you are coming from a place that is very far from the practical experience of SL.

Sandboxes aren't magical or defining. There are a lot of places in SL where one can build that aren't called "sandboxes" but function in the same way, like the bottom of the sea in some places. And some sandboxes are not found in search, but are only available to members of a specific group or to people who learn of them by word of mouth.

There are two ways this can work. One is a scheduled return according to wallclock, for which timezone would have some relevance. The other is actual auto-return, which is based on elapsed time since a prim was rezzed. The latter requires no effort on the part of the landowner other than to select a parcel setting (About Land / Objects / Autoreturn).

(I forget how this works on Estates, but vaguely recall some special "sandbox mode" for Estate managers. Perhaps somebody can fill in the details on that--I'm having weird problems connecting to the Knowledge Base at the moment, and can't seem to find it in the wiki. Maybe I imagined it.)

Again, though, I just have to caution that the subject I understand to be of interest is just not represented in SL in any meaningful way by the places labelled "Sandbox." It is strictly an *economic* construct, and "Sandboxes" are otherwise the same as every other scrap of virtual land on the grid. If the subject of interest is something about "Haves" vs "Have-Nots", then maybe, but to anything as high-falutin as "diegetic", the designation of "Sandbox" (private or public or Linden-owned) is quite completely beside the point.

Like I said, it's a whole new paradigm.

But what does it say?