Filing of Abuse Reports for ageplay.

if they are saying in chat they are role playing someone under 18, there is no basis to AR them. just as in any other sim, if someone is actually doing something you dont allow, then politely ask them to stop or leave. if they dont, ban them and if the violation of your rules in extreme enough, then AR them. but AR'ing them simply because they role play someone under 18 is not acceptable.

having managed sims, there have been many times that people come into an area with no clue what goes on there and what the rules are. sometimes they have tp'd in just because there are green dots and simply dont know the rules or the environment. i have always kept the policy that everyone should be treated with respect unless and until they act up lol. most people when asked to stop doing whatever isnt allowed simply apologize and stop or leave. there are very very few times i have ever had to AR someone and slightly more times that i have had to ban them.

for me, taking that approach has worked extremely well and has resulted in a high level of integrity and respect with the residents and visitors who have visited the sims.

edit added - i also think that LL has all the tools they need with chat logs, ip addresses etc. to take action as needed. once i AR someone, as long as they are not coming back and bothering me i figure LL has the ball and has addressed the issue...its not for me to follow up on and track since i have no way of knowing LL's determination or the consequences handed out.

If it's a kid avatar, if it's a sexual situation, and/or if it's violating visual proximity... AR and let the Lindens sort it out. (^_^)

For proximity violations, be sure you have the screen shot included. (^_^)

If all factors are accurate and the TOS/CS is violated, they'll be gone in under an hour. (^_^)y

If you are filing abuse reports, you're doing your part.

It is probably unreasonably to expect anyone to have their account deleted on a first offense of most TOS violations. Their accounts may still be active because they have not re-offended.

So you have ARed the same resident for ageplay ten times. It seems Linden Lab has done nothing abuot the past ten ARs. So the eleventh time, you don't AR. Some other wandering person on your sim does, that's the one LL acts on, and you find your own account banned because you allowed ageplay on your sim and didn't report it.

Even if LL is ignoring the ARs, you need to keep filing them to protect yourself.

The same virtual pedophilia apologists making excuses again. Before it was stated that there were not enough incidents of virtual pedophilia for it to be a concern. And now yet another person (none of you are familiar with) talks about her constant battle with child avatars on her ADULT sex sim. And these cild avatars asking to have cyber sex (Her chatlogs included in reports to prove this). But you all talk about soft-peddling the issues, filing a report and allowing it to continue over and over again - because Linden Lab is willing to allow it to occur over and over again.

I have seen most of you put up a bigger fuss about bots. Amazing.

Either the current restrictions are not effective or the people put in charge to make sure the restrictions are effective are not doing their jobs. Either way some positive changes will need to happen very soon.

I've had enough of your crap. Welcome to my ignore list.

enough with the name calling lias....everyone else is answering the question asked by the OP in a respectful manner....might be nice to keep this thread headed in that direction.

You are well versed in ignoring. Farewell.

Jojo, you spoke of virtual pedophilia being a non-issue because you have not seen any instances of it. I sent you the data that showed 182 reports of virtual pedophilia in SL since 2007 and now this person reports quite a few also. Yet you still see it as a non-issue. And you say you work with pedophiles! Perhaps you have become numb to the entire issue then.
The OP asked:
What she got was alot of 'report it and forget it' And some fear mongering; 'If you investigate yourself you stand the chance of being banned as a virtual pedophile - best report it, ban and mind your own business'.

Alot of the same people are very comfortable with virtual pedophilia in SL and are willing to live with it and just report it WHEN it occurs. People fought harder to rid SL of adfarming than this offense that even crosses over into RL legalities. I am simply amazed.

And the same over exaggeration from you. I saw nowhere in the OP, or her further statements, that these child avis were "asking to have cyber sex". What I read in the OP that prompted questions and statements from many here is that she was simply ARing folks for RPing a child avi. It was not even clear at first that the sim was totally and very explicitly adult in nature -- because "a particular Adult roleplay sim" does not mean that the sex stuff is obvious no matter where you are.

Get off your high horse, stop ASSuming what other people are thinking, and actually try to have a resonable ADULT conversation for a change.

Then you did not see the title of the thread.
Nonsense
'Adult COnversation' is not file a report and forget it LittleMe. That is head up your ASSuming.

The title of the thread, combined with what the OP wrote, simply tells me that the OP could be jumping to conclusions -- something I am pretty sure you are very familiar with.



Like hell - I can find plenty of Adult RP sims where the Adult RPing stuff is not out in the open all over the place. Do you ever actually wander any of these places or just make lots of ASSumptions based upon your totally deluded view of what everyone else thinks?



I never said "file a report and forget it', but you definitely do make it a habit of assuming things a lot.

How is saying AR someone violating the TOS/CS and watch them disappear within an hour "Making an excuse"? (O.o)

lias you are being rude to all of the rest of the forum folks who are being civil. and i will not stand by and let you malign my integrity without answering. i will address your allegations once and then i wont feed your rudeness any further.

you sent me a link to publicly posted data that showed that exactly 5 incidents of alleged ageplay had been addressed by LL with anything from 14 days suspension or higher in over 2 years. the rest of the 160+ allegations were dismissed.

that amounts to 2.5 allegations per year that resulted in ANY discipline at all by LL. a VERY VERY small number as i told you in private IM. and since the data had NO indication of exactly what the incidents were etc...again, that amount of discipline does not indicate an epidemic of anything.

in an effort to not have this thread derailed once again, i would also encourage everyone else to let lias' incendiary comments to go by without comment.

524 "Intolerance" violations on that blotter chart... Just saying. (^_^)y

Lias, am I to take it from this that, were a child avatar -- or, at least, an avatar who looked young enough to make you feel uncomfortable about his or her being there -- turn up in your nude sushi bar on Zindra, you would not immediately ask him or her to leave but would, instead, engage him or her in conversation for a while in order to discover what this youthful-looking avatar was up to?

Do you seriously tell me that, should an avatar whose appearance gives me cause for disquiet turn up in my shop on Zindra I should not ask him or her to leave?

Paranoid much? I don't see one post by the OP where the 'child avatar' was asking for sex.

Need to borrow my 10' pole? Might be very handy here.

She has actually admitted to trying to entrap child avis before -- she does not like child avis in any way shape or form, no matter where on the grid they are. She is sure they are all pedophiles.

I'm perfectly aware of what Lias says she gets up to, with this mysterious group with the secret blog and all that, and jolly exciting it must be too -- but what I want to know is her policy on child avatars (or avatars who look young enough to cause her concern, at least) who turn up in her nude sushi restaurant, and what her advice is to other businesses on Zindra.

Should we immediately ask avatars whose youthful appearance gives us cause for concern to leave, or shouldn't we?

Kid/babyfur avatars have nothing to do with paedophilia,as furry avatars have nothing to do with zoophilia. Most people on SL want to be something other than the default male or female avatars.

Because i feel that being rude to someone because of what their avatar looks like is wrong.

Makes me wonder how long before people start complaining about Asian avatars? And i'm part Asian IRL.

those who do not learn from their mistakes are doomed to repeat them ad nauseum...

if you need a hint, are these words familiar:



Guidelines violations
Name calling
Attacking an avatar group

Here we go again. Lias, do you not recall the last thread that was closed because of your derogatory remarks about large groups of the SL population? Not to mention pretty much anyone who disagrees with you or who has a firm grasp of logic for that matter?

PS - There is no such thing as "virtual pedophilia." It is beyond ridiculous to waste time on these things when there is actual pedophilia in the real world you could be doing something about-- assuming you really do care about this issue at all.

I don't know what this thread is turning in to (oh, yes I do) so here are some pictures of dollies and persoscoms. =^-^=

How about Anime avatars? (^_^)