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How to prove to someone you are not someone else on SL?

Marianne McCann
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10-01-2007 06:57
From: Sammy Spinotti
That's a difficult one. Have you tried appearing at the same time with the person for whom you've been mistaken? Alternatively, you could simply let this person believe what he or she wants to believe.


Dat dun always work: some people have thought me, my brother Pygar, an my friend Robin were all the same person, an asked Robin how she managed to control all three avatars at the same time. ;-)

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10-01-2007 06:58
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Aint that the truth Sister!

/me does Ricki Lake audience dance :p

Jesus! There's a name I haven't seen in ages.
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Walker Moore
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10-01-2007 06:59
From: jodi Dimsum
I gave him the passwords of both my accounts long ago, just to prove to him I have nothing to hide from him and he still wouldn't believe me v_v
Very, very stupid thing to do. Not only due to the risk of abuse you're opening yourself up to, but because it's against ToS and you're incriminating yourself by even mentioning it here.

Heck, I discovered my ex was accessing my SL account via my laptop because I was stupid enough to leave the 'remember password' box ticked. Did I consent to that? No! Even though we knew each other in RL that was irrelevant.

I changed my passwords, etc., .. and when the relationship turned sour a month later, I ARd him for it. :p
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Brian Beltway
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10-01-2007 07:04
From: Walker Moore
Very, very stupid thing to do. Not only due to the risk of abuse you're opening yourself up to, but because it's against ToS and you're incriminating yourself by even mentioning it here.

Heck, I discovered my ex was accessing my SL account via my laptop because I was stupid enough to leave the 'remember password' box ticked. Did I consent to that? No! Even though we knew each other in RL that was irrelevant.

I changed my passwords, etc., .. and when the relationship turned sour a month later, I ARd him for it. :p



I loved the story of the guys wife who clicked on SL..he'd left his password ticked...figured out how it works....dressed up his AV as he really is...OLD...and went hunting for his SL girlfriend. True?...i hope so..lol
jodi Dimsum
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10-01-2007 07:04
Thanks for the reply everyone. I think the only thing I can do now is to make myself a hat with " I am not xxxxx " and wear it every time I log on :(

Ok I am done here, thanks.
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10-01-2007 07:06
From: Ciaran Laval
Is this a wind up?


Then I'd sure feel dim some.
Sling Trebuchet
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10-01-2007 07:06
From: jodi Dimsum
I got mistaken for someone else. Someone thinks I play with another account and I have no way to prove to him I am not. I do have an alt which I have stopped using and he knows about it. The person got mistaken for me is nice enough and tried prove to him but still wouldn't help.

How can I clear myself?


The three of you have to meet up in RL.
Each one in turn sits at a keyboard and logs in as their avatar. You don't have to allow view of your passwords by the others.

Oh.. no.. that wouldn't work either. You could have a friend RP the owner of the other account, so the RL-witnessed logins would prove nothing.
Maybe the someone would accept notarised declarations of RL identity?
But then, all a notary can say is that a RL person has informed them that they are the account owner, so it's not absolute proof.


Trust is a decision we make in the absence of complete knowledge. Trusting someone involves giving up a measure of control to someone else. Loving someone is an extreme lform of trust.

Forget about 'making' someone trust you. It's impossible. You'd be wasting your time.
'Someone' sounds like they might be a bit of a control freak.
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10-01-2007 07:14
From: jodi Dimsum
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I gave him the passwords of both my accounts long ago, just to prove to him I have nothing to hide from him and he still wouldn't believe me v_v

But he will never do things like your friend's bf did. He's not that kind of person.



Classic control freak! Get the hell out of there girl!


"Yes he does beat me, but it's my fault for making him angry. He's always sorry afterwards and says he will change. Blah, blah, blah"
Walker Moore
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10-01-2007 07:14
From: Brian Beltway
I loved the story of the guys wife who clicked on SL..he'd left his password ticked...figured out how it works....dressed up his AV as he really is...OLD...and went hunting for his SL girlfriend. True?...i hope so..lol
LOL! I've not heard that one before. I've had more than one experience with family members or partners accessing friend's accounts though. In two cases, the underage siblings of friends.

The typing style alone is usually a dead giveaway.
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Walker Moore
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10-01-2007 07:17
From: jodi Dimsum
Thanks for the reply everyone. I think the only thing I can do now is to make myself a hat with " I am not xxxxx " and wear it every time I log on :(

Ok I am done here, thanks.
Please jodi, give us all peace of mind by changing your passwords and not granting this guy access to your account.

He may be as nice as you say. What do we know? We can only judge him via this single aspect. But you shouldn't even be giving your nearest and dearest access to your SL account, and nobody, no matter how much you love them or vice versa, should expect you to.

Good luck with your situation. :)
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10-01-2007 07:19
If you like the control freaks, there are better and safer ways of enjoying the experience than dedicating yourself to this individual. And they won't require your password.

Love.
Kitty Barnett
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10-01-2007 07:20
From: jodi Dimsum
Don't need to. I merely have any friend on this account. I log on SL only for him and hardly accept friend requests. There really isn't any friends of mine he can spy on and say nasty thing to, and he simply won't do this.
If you're posting on the forums, you have payment info on file, so not only did you give him access to your account, you also gave him access to plunder your credit card.

As hard as it may be to believe, there is no ";(s)he would never" in relationships, especially in online ones where there isn't a full sense of reality or accountability.
Ceera Murakami
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10-01-2007 07:33
1: You can't prove a negative. It is impossible. So you can only prove who you are, not who you are not.

2: If he won't take your word for it, I certainly wouldn't trust him with your account passwords, nor would I trust him in other regards. Trust is a two-way affair, If he won't trust you, why should you trust him?

3: Even if you got the owner of the other account to cooperate, and all three of you met in RL, that still proves nothing. You could pick up a vagrant off the street and give them an alt's password, and pay them to show up in RL and claim to be that alt's Player. See? you can't prove a negative. You can't prove it wasn't you at the time. He could still claim you're lying.

Change your passwords ASAP and dump him. There are far better fish in the sea.
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Chas Connolly
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10-01-2007 08:36
As Ceera says, this is virtually impossible to prove. I know, I once spent an hour trying to convince a random caller that I wasn't the person he wanted to speak to. One of the most bizarre conversations I've ever had. But fun.

Your situation sounds a lot less fun. What I don't get - if this really is serious - is why this guy is convinced you're somebody else, too.
Ann Launay
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10-01-2007 08:45
From: Chas Connolly

Your situation sounds a lot less fun. What I don't get - if this really is serious - is why this guy is convinced you're somebody else, too.


My top picks would be one or more of the following:

1) He's insecure and paranoid;
2) He's power tripping, seeing how far he can push her, and really doesn't believe she's this other person at all;
3) He's doing something he ought not to with an alt and it either just occurred to him that it would be possible for her to do the same, OR he's distracting her with these accusations so she won't have time to suspect him.
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10-01-2007 08:48
From: jodi Dimsum
I got mistaken for someone else. Someone thinks I play with another account and I have no way to prove to him I am not. I do have an alt which I have stopped using and he knows about it. The person got mistaken for me is nice enough and tried prove to him but still wouldn't help.

How can I clear myself?


You take them off your friends list and mute them...mainly becasue they dont trust you and its gona be far to much drama to even bother
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10-01-2007 09:00
From: jodi Dimsum
I can't do that. I am so attach to him.

I gave him the passwords of both my accounts long ago, just to prove to him I have nothing to hide from him and he still wouldn't believe me v_v

But he will never do things like your friend's bf did. He's not that kind of person.


Jodi, Jodi, Jodi...listen to your friends, dear.

1. The trust in this relationship is all one way. This is NOT healthy.

2. No matter HOW much you think you love and trust someone, never, never, NEVER give them your passwords. NOBODY but you has any need for them, or any right to them. Anyone who asks you for them is NOT your friend.

2a. Go back and re-read #2 above. I mean, NEVER!!!!!! Is that clear?

3. Change your passwords NOW, Jodi. Even if you think he's "not that kind of person", why put temptation into his hands? Why put your LIFE in his hands? Have you met him in RL? Do you KNOW him, other than online? (And, even if you do know him RL, I've got news for you...RL friends break up and scr*w each other over, too.)

And, when he says, "Hey, hon, I tried to access your account the other day, and your password didn't work", you stand up on your hind legs and say:

"I've changed my passwords. I love you, sweetie, but my account is mine, and there really isn't any reason for you to be able to access it. Let's drop the subject and go dancing, OK?"
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Colette Meiji
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10-01-2007 09:03
From: Zaphod Kotobide
/me mutters something about trust relationships and IDV and moves merrily along.


Ohhh no. No merrily moving along -

Id like you to explain how this matters?

What would they do in this scenario - display their RL identity?

And then somehow get the other person(the alt they are accused of being) to display their different RL idenitity?


Even assuming this other person would agree to this-

How much logical sense does it make to display your Real Life Identity to someone who claims not to trust you?
Colette Meiji
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10-01-2007 09:10
From: Brenda Connolly
Not a lot are worth it in RL.... :p


Actually none are.

Even if you are RL married your husband does not need your email (and SL) password.

And you dont need his.

If he cant trust you and you cant trust him - then its pretty sad.

If you voluntarily give it without any coercion well thats your call, but if there are attempts to manipulate you - then its all just a sympton of mistrust.
Marianne McCann
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10-01-2007 09:18
From: Lindal Kidd
Jodi, Jodi, Jodi...listen to your friends, dear.

1. The trust in this relationship is all one way. This is NOT healthy.

2. No matter HOW much you think you love and trust someone, never, never, NEVER give them your passwords. NOBODY but you has any need for them, or any right to them. Anyone who asks you for them is NOT your friend.

2a. Go back and re-read #2 above. I mean, NEVER!!!!!! Is that clear?

3. Change your passwords NOW, Jodi. Even if you think he's "not that kind of person", why put temptation into his hands? Why put your LIFE in his hands? Have you met him in RL? Do you KNOW him, other than online? (And, even if you do know him RL, I've got news for you...RL friends break up and scr*w each other over, too.)

And, when he says, "Hey, hon, I tried to access your account the other day, and your password didn't work", you stand up on your hind legs and say:

"I've changed my passwords. I love you, sweetie, but my account is mine, and there really isn't any reason for you to be able to access it. Let's drop the subject and go dancing, OK?"


Quoted for truth. Dis sorta stuff plays out IRL a lot too, Jodi, an it ain't never pretty. And change your passwords now. Not in an hour, now. You'll thank yourself later.

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Colette Meiji
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10-01-2007 09:22
All right - if someone you are in a real life relationship doesnt trust you - wwell you have to weigh if working towards building trust makes sense-


In an online relationship - As soon as someone doesnt trust you.

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10-01-2007 09:25
From: Lindal Kidd

And, when he says, "Hey, hon, I tried to access your account the other day, and your password didn't work", you stand up on your hind legs and say:

"I've changed my passwords. I love you, sweetie, but my account is mine, and there really isn't any reason for you to be able to access it. Let's drop the subject and go dancing, OK?"


Jodi - everyone is telling you one thing in this thread and the best response you've come up with is to put a title over your head that says you are't the person he's accusing you ov being. Take a step back and a deep breath and then take a good, long look at what's going on here. You're letting your emotions lead you into a very bad place.

Lindal is right (as is everyone else). This kind of behavior requires a STRONG response if you want it to stop. Change passwords and go on about your business. Tell him he has two choices - believe you are who you say you are or get lost. I'd point out that having some faith in others often leads to a much happier life, but the bottom line is he either backs down or he's gone. Then stick to your guns. If he is too messed up to realize that he's way out of line, then you're better off without him. If not, he'll back down and you guys can work through whatever issues you're having that caused him to get all paranoid in the first place.
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10-01-2007 09:27
From: jodi Dimsum
I can't do that. I am so attach to him.

I gave him the passwords of both my accounts long ago, just to prove to him I have nothing to hide from him and he still wouldn't believe me v_v

But he will never do things like your friend's bf did. He's not that kind of person.


Did whut?

Aside from being ARable, why the hell would you do that? Boundaries: They're a good thing. He's got you jumping through hoops, and nothing you do will ever be good enough.
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10-01-2007 09:30
From: jodi Dimsum


How can I clear myself?


Several people have given you good advice. You seem unwilling to stop seeing him, so I will offer a variation.

Tell him, these exact words..."I don't like the fact that you don't trust me. If you cannot trust me, I do not want to be with you any more. The *next* time you bring this up will be the last."

Now the hard part...the next time, you *must* dump him.
Asher Bertrand
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10-01-2007 09:33
From: Lee Ponzu
Several people have given you good advice. You seem unwilling to stop seeing him, so I will offer a variation.

Tell him, these exact words..."I don't like the fact that you don't trust me. If you cannot trust me, I do not want to be with you any more. The *next* time you bring this up will be the last."

Now the hard part...the next time, you *must* dump him.



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