Blue Mars beta

Ah, back to loading up alts for support, I see.

Of course, but they will have their stuff archived as well.

Rock

No alt here goil geek!

-C

That is of absolutely no value whatsoever to the end users, who will outnumber the creators by far, I suspect.

This.

I could implement a chainsaw effect in Second Life. Build the tree out of prims you reshape (sculpts, or just prim parameters) when you "make the cuts", and then turn it physical and apply an impulse when you're ready to drop it.

Yeah, maybe. But with CryEngine everything is automatically destructable. You don't have to do anything to it to make it so. And the results look way better and more realistic than in SL.

Wanna see? Check the video on this page:

http://www.cryengine2.com/

Everything was destructable in the LindenWorld alpha. They took it out for a reason.

So if I build a house and someone crashes a plane into it I need to get a new house?

You decide. You can either live with the destruction, if that is what you want (a battle or warfare city, for example; or living in the tropics and you want to replicate the dangers from tornados, as a house in the way of a tornado will also get flattened, with debris everywhere), or you can upload another, as you wish (but a city owner may prevent that by saying if you choose to live in this tropical island, occasional hurricanes come with the territory), but you would know the rules beforehand.

Good, innit?

Rock

I am not sure that would be good. I suppose it depends on how much I had to pay for the house and contents.. and how much time and effort it would take to put it back together.

Your definition of good and mine seem to vary broadly.

A city owner can tell me I can't rebuild my house?

Blow that for a bloody joke.

For a long time, Everquest was a forerunner in MMORPGs. Despite the "addiction" to EQ, it had serious drawbacks. Severe death penalties, over-conned mobs, poor inventory management, cryptic quests........... and so.

Then World of Warcraft came along, hiring several of the raiding guild leaders to advise the development team on content, rewards, quests, flags etc.. The end product was something that eliminated many of the shortcomings of Everquest. All classes can solo, mobs within the quest regions are managed easily, hearthstone home, learn multiple skills, auction house, email.... the list goes on.

I can say with certainty, BM is developing it's platform based on many of SL's shortcomings. It is wise to watch your competition and learn by their mistakes.

Let's face it. SL has and had far too many features which are gamed, abused and exploited.

If LL thinks your project is profitable, it's likely they will co-opt it for their own gain. (Public Land, Auctions, GOM, SLX, new sim releases, themed sims, to name a few) This has land prices in the gutter, as they have removed nearly any potential for profit to it's residents. The premission system in SL is irrepairably broken. Content theft, copying, resale, trademark infringement and other related activities are epidemic. Again, I can say with certainty, BM has measures of controlling content creation which strictly uphold the rights of creators and locks out copies or knock-offs from scammers.

Has anyone had a look at the "Events" list lately? It's a cesspool of abuse for crappy malls selling stolen or garbage content. Does anyone even hold "real" events these days, without some kind of advertising, money grab or exploit? No. In BM, if you want 100 bots on your land to exploit traffic, then you pay for it, dearly. In SL, if a freebee avatar wants to wear scripted hoochie hair and thousands of prims, poorly written scripted AO's and dance HUDS, it's ok... at the expense of other's resources, but in BM that will not be permitted. You will get what you pay for, nothing more, nothing less.

SL is not a level playfield. Free accounts are carved in stone, while those who pay high fees can be locked out, losing land, objects etc for any reason, right or wrong. The currency numbers are greatly exaggerated for purposes other than what they are intended. It's as though LL themselves are "gaming" the numbers to give the appearance much like bot runners used on traffic. Enforcement is normally on one hand, but not the other. When LL finally gets around to some of the bad actors, it's usually incomplete and the scammers evolve into something else exploitable.

You can count on LL to do the right thing, but only long after the fact. Then everyone loses. Meanwhile the only winners are scoundrels. Land cutters, extortionists and other racketeers laundered hundreds of millions of $L, resulting in otherwise legitimate Paypal or credit card accounts being needlessly banned, scrutinized or denied.

SL is built on 1999 technology. To this day, it still does not utilize even the most basic Windows functions... (ie) right click copy/paste. Search is convoluted, and grid stability is precarious at best. At LL, "quality assurance" means it runs on a couple of LL's machines, not necessarily the masses.

BM is under "state of the art" development, as opposed to the antiquated dog's breakfast of a compilation that is SL.

Proof of that, please.

End users will outnumber creators, but on your first point I beg to differ. If a city in BM is closed down, for non-payment or for whatever reason, the city is not lost, as is usually the case with SL.

When I am finished creating my city for BM there will be contributions from others (that I am in contact with). If other virtual worlds, such as Entropia, who have also switched to the CryEngine, decide to compete with BM on price, and offer a good deal, myself and my colleagues could (if we so wished) decide to up sticks and transfer the city with all its assets over to the other world, even after having the city closed for non-payment.

If you were a user, and you particularly loved a certain city, not all is lost if it suddenly went down. The owners could relocate it, or others may decide to buy the entire city in a private deal with the various contributors and either have BM host it again (with a different owner), or move it to another virtual world.

I think that is of value.

Rock

NDA, sorry.

All I can say is, it involves DMCA and OEM policy rulesets.

I just think choice is good. You can choose to live in a city where there is no destruction, or in a city where there is, but you can just upload another, or in a city where destruction is destruction.

Perhaps you would like to share what you consider to be 'good' in this regard?

Rock

THe permission system can not be "fixed" without the client effectively installing a rootkit on your computer, and even then they will be fighting a never-ending battle against cheats. This is a continual failure mode of closed MMOs, and there is no way around it with any technology I would permit on any computer I use.

You will understand of course that I am as hesitant to believe this rumour as every other fanlore about BM until I have seen it myself.



You wouldn't get it.

thats definitely LL in a nutshell!

Try me

Rock

Good lord, never.

Understandably, but by the same logic, don't you think an innovative potential competitior would make every effort to not repeat the unresolveable errors of the past?

I never said that. Just because it could be and should be the logical way to go doesn't mean it will be, though. We'll see soon enough.