Charter Account Value?
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Rhonda Huntress
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09-20-2009 15:26
Hmm, let me give it an honest thought.
L$ 500 a week stipend? Give it a maybe 78 weeks max run. so 39K L$ L$ rate has gone from 230 to 280 this past year so ... 20% inflation. We should be looking at 360L$ to the USD by then. Looks like about 100 bucks would be a good price.
I would pay 100 USD for the account IF it is honestly an allowable sell.
Maybe you can find someone who would wat the 4K mainland but even then I would say the account is worth 175 to 200 USD tops.
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Raudf Fox
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09-20-2009 15:32
Going month by month is a bit optimistic to me. I am continually surprised that SL is still going week by week.
As for the topic..
While I would love to have a Charter account as yet another alt.. especially if I could add it's tier to my group's tier, I sadly couldn't afford it even at it's cheapest. But I think 100 to 200 would be a decent amount for selling.
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09-20-2009 15:32
From: Blue Frequency I personally believe LL will continue to surprise people with their longevity. I have no doubt they will be around a while still, but in what form and catering to what type of clientele? That is where my doubts come in. I have no desire to play in an online Disney World.
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09-20-2009 15:38
From: LittleMe Jewell I have no doubt they will be around a while still, but in what form and catering to what type of clientele? That is where my doubts come in. I have no desire to play in an online Disney World. Or MyFaceSpaceBookEHarmonyAOL3D
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Rhonda Huntress
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09-20-2009 15:39
From: Tristin Mikazuki SL wont be around forever.. I doubt it has 3 years of life left. And with the content creation rules that will be coming into effect and the Stoker lawsuit.. ya $100 is the top limit I would go. 3 years is more thanI give it. OK, let me clarify that. It will be around for a long long time afterward. The platform will exist and there will be people using it. There will, however, be a mass exodus to a platform that will blow SL out of the water for easy of use, stability and security in less than 3 years unless SL can pull a rabbit out of hat and fast. Since they have yet to prove they can pull their heads out of the sand (and you thought I was going to say ass) I really do not think that it will happen. I gave it a year and a half for payout. Anything after that is making a return on investment and I say that with complete honesty and no bias that a year and a half for payout is a generous offer for anything.
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Blue Frequency
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09-20-2009 15:54
From: Brenda Connolly Or MyFaceSpaceBookEHarmonyAOL3D lol
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LittleMe Jewell
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09-20-2009 15:57
From: Brenda Connolly Or MyFaceSpaceBookEHarmonyAOL3D That's what that last request for info from them was all about. 
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Tristin Mikazuki
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09-20-2009 16:14
From: Blue Frequency If your assumption that SL will end in 3 years is correct then the account would be worth around $560.
I will offer that when LL sold the Charter accounts most people thought it probable that SL would not last 2 more years. It was somewhat of a risky investment at the time.
I personally believe LL will continue to surprise people with their longevity. It will be around... but like active worlds is still around The value of $100.00 usd also takes into account the risk the buyer has with Linden Lab... which is fairly high. I do hope ya can sell it for a good amount of cash tho but I personaly wouldnt go over $100.00
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Elgyfu Wishbringer
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09-20-2009 16:19
Of course, this Charter Member might have a really daft name. Or a really shady reputation ... or a string of drama-queen gfs.....or .......
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09-20-2009 16:37
From: Elgyfu Wishbringer Of course, this Charter Member might have a really daft name. Or a really shady reputation ... or a string of drama-queen gfs.....or ....... lol was thinking that to
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Blue Frequency
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09-20-2009 16:52
From: Elgyfu Wishbringer Of course, this Charter Member might have a really daft name. Or a really shady reputation ... or a string of drama-queen gfs.....or ....... As I said before, I would not recommend someone buying this account if they want to masquerade as someone else. The benefits are purely economical.
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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09-20-2009 16:54
From: Blue Frequency How much would you pay for an existing Charter account? I would pay no more than 100 US dollars
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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09-20-2009 17:03
From: Blue Frequency Think of the account as a legacy item. It's current owner will not be able to use it much longer and wishes to pass it on. There is no interest in revealing the identity of the seller to the general public. you also said this which implies you are the seller, otherwise, LL, the seller and the buyer would be the only ones who need to know the identity of the buyer From: Blue Frequency Out of concern for privacy only myself, LL, and the buyer will know that information. so are you the seller? or is someone else the seller and you are simply doing research on what folks would pay, on their behalf? (keep in mind, just because someone says that X amount is what they would pay, doesn't mean they want to buy it)
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Peggy Paperdoll
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09-20-2009 17:36
I'm assuming the OP is sincere here.
Taking all those numbers that have been tossed out for what would be a fair price for such a purchase I believe the purchase would be a good deal at $250 to maybe $375 (one time purchase). Sure it would be "risky".......and with the US economy the way it is (with not much hope of relief in sight) the risk factor grows substainally. However, take my situation: I'm a premium account on the quarterly plan. I pay LL $90 a year and have no tier for my 512 lot. That's $270 over at three year period I pay LL. $250 for the account would save me $20 (or a little less than $7 a year.......this is if I cancel, or downgrade, my premium account for this avatar). The higher price I gave is 50% higher....that would be the risk factor (or your confidence in LL). I'm up in the air about my confidence level for LL.........but I do think they will still be a viable 3D world in three years.
I would say $375 tops would be my bid. Of course I would like it for as low as $250 but lower than that I think it borders on stealing the account.......it's worth at least that much. Too bad I can't afford the deal right now...........I'd jump all over it.
And, as for the legitamacy of the selling of the account, I think that would be addressed once an offer has been made. Linden Lab would have to get involved at that point. So doubting the seller's honesty or legitamacy is kind of out of line. LL does allow accounts to be sold, given away or donated......WITH SPECIAL PERMISSION. It's in the ToS.
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Katheryne Helendale
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09-20-2009 17:44
From: Elgyfu Wishbringer Of course, this Charter Member might have a really daft name. Or a really shady reputation ... or a string of drama-queen gfs.....or ....... This! How much baggage is this account carrying? I mean, there has to be a pretty interesting reason why the very account being placed on the market is being kept anonymous. It's a bit like me trying to sell you a house in sunny San Diego, California, without telling you where it is, and expecting you to pay the San Diego area's top market rate for it.
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Katheryne Helendale
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09-20-2009 17:48
From: Peggy Paperdoll So doubting the seller's honesty or legitamacy is kind of out of line. No, it's not. Given that I have no idea who this person is, all I have to go by in terms of establishing his honesty and legitimacy is his snarky attitude and evasive answers in this thread. Hardly the hallmarks of a trustworthy salesperson.
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Brieanne Bomazi
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09-20-2009 17:54
heh. I didn't pay for a charter account on my first avie way back when.. cause no promise SL would be around. I didn't get one on my 04 avie either. The first account i deleted due to SL not running on my system, so my oldest one is an 04. Reading this, i see a few inconsistencies.
One, you refuse to divulge the name. Two, you allude no one but the seller, buyer, and LL need to know. Like the buyer wouldn't divulge they bought said account. Three, why would someone make an offer on an account they know NOTHING about? no history, good or bad. Thats nuts. NO clue what kind of inventory, nothing, just basics.
I have a prim. rezzed in 03. its an antique. you can't see it, or have any information other than basic.. its a prim. who will make an offer? you get no pics, no clues, no hints, but its a 2003 prim. Bidding starts at X amount.
How bout it?
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Peggy Paperdoll
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09-20-2009 18:07
From: Katheryne Helendale No, it's not. Given that I have no idea who this person is, all I have to go by in terms of establishing his honesty and legitimacy is his snarky attitude and evasive answers in this thread. Hardly the hallmarks of a trustworthy salesperson. Making an offer would be the first step.............then going to LL to actually get the transfer done would be the next step. At that point the legitamacy (or honesty) would be established. If LL accepts the terms of the transfer, it's legitmate.......if not, you are out nothing. LL will establish the legitimacy......of both parties (remember, the seller doesn't know you anymore than you know him). Why the hostility?
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Peggy Paperdoll
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09-20-2009 18:15
From: Katheryne Helendale This!
How much baggage is this account carrying? I mean, there has to be a pretty interesting reason why the very account being placed on the market is being kept anonymous. It's a bit like me trying to sell you a house in sunny San Diego, California, without telling you where it is, and expecting you to pay the San Diego area's top market rate for it. You know, of course, you don't have to actively use this avatar. I happen to be the premium account of an avatar I use much more in SL than this one. That avatar has all the privileges that I do as far as land is concerned (just make the land group owned and make any avatar you have an owner). The two avatars have completely different inventories, in world identities, personalities, friends, and activities. You don't need to know who this avatar is at all...........just "retire" him/her from actively participating in SL. It's an account you do not have to use..........except to reap the benefits from.
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Tegg Bode
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09-20-2009 18:24
I don't think they should be transferable, they should dissappear with the RL owner, there are enough problem plots on the grid with infinate lives as it is. Nice sims ruined by an ugly donut hole in the middle that hasn't logged in in 4 years.
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Rhonda Huntress
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09-20-2009 18:33
Blue, we seem to be reaching a consensus from several different perspectives of about $100. When I say I would pay 100 for it, I mean it. Show me proof the transaction is on the up and up and I will show you the money. The only interest I have in it is the weekly stipend and if that is NOT 500 lindens a week I don't want it. Otherwise I have no need for whatever identity or reputation it may have as long as it is not banned or otherwise unable to yield the 500 lindens per week to my main account.
If you can get more somewhere, jump on it.
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Peggy Paperdoll
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09-20-2009 18:37
From: Tegg Bode I don't think they should be transferable, they should dissappear with the RL owner, there are enough problem plots on the grid with infinate lives as it is. Nice sims ruined by an ugly donut hole in the middle that hasn't logged in in 4 years. You might be right. But, LL does allow them to be transferred (with special permission). The reason, from what I've read, is to allow someone to grant an account to someone near and dear to them in RL (not sure what that means exactly except maybe in the spirit of "willing' the account to a spouse, child, aunt, uncle, whatever). I don't think they actually thought of anyone selling to the highest bidder.........but it's not excluded in the ToS. So long as it's "legal", I see no problem with it. And for the donut hole in the middle of a plot of land for an account that has not logged in for 4 years.........selling the account might solve that.
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Peggy Paperdoll
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09-20-2009 18:39
From: Rhonda Huntress Blue, we seem to be reaching a consensus from several different perspectives of about $100. When I say I would pay 100 for it, I mean it. Show me proof the transaction is on the up and up and I will show you the money. The only interest I have in it is the weekly stipend and if that is NOT 500 lindens a week I don't want it. Otherwise I have no need for whatever identity or reputation it may have as long as it is not banned or otherwise unable to yield the 500 lindens per week to my main account.
If you can get more somewhere, jump on it. You might get a better response in a PM.........I know I would hesitate to respond to anyone publically with the hostility that has been displayed so far.
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Tegg Bode
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09-20-2009 19:04
From: Peggy Paperdoll You might be right. But, LL does allow them to be transferred (with special permission). The reason, from what I've read, is to allow someone to grant an account to someone near and dear to them in RL (not sure what that means exactly except maybe in the spirit of "willing' the account to a spouse, child, aunt, uncle, whatever). I don't think they actually thought of anyone selling to the highest bidder.........but it's not excluded in the ToS. So long as it's "legal", I see no problem with it. And for the donut hole in the middle of a plot of land for an account that has not logged in for 4 years.........selling the account might solve that. I'm all for transfering an account to an alt, loved one or relative, but to me this seems more like a transaction for profit. And US$100 sounds cheap to me for infinate free money as you could rent out a 4096 to someone for any amount to basically be making money for nothing for the rest of your life. There are probably a few oldies who have taken advantage of this using multiple accounts, which I have no problem with, it's not worth chasing unless it was gamed excessively by someone who had a hundred Chartered alts to own a dozen sims worth of land, but to allow it to be continually transferable from the inital purchasers family to any noob for the next 100 years defeats the reasoning behind the original offer. If I wanted to sell my charter account to an alt, RL friend or brother and whether I had permission to do it or not I wouldn't need to bother doing a transaction through SL. I would just take cash from them in RL.
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Peggy Paperdoll
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09-20-2009 19:09
From: Tegg Bode I'm all for transfering an account to a loved one or relative, but to me this seems more like a transaction for profit. If I wanted to sell my charter account to a RL friend or brother and whether I had permission to do it or not I wouldn't need to bother doing a transaction through SL. I would just take cash from them in RL. But for the account to be transferred, LL has to do the actual transferring. Otherwise you are simply giving your avatar name and password to them...........which is agains the ToS. Fine line, I understand.......but, it's a way to do it that is sanctioned by Linden Lab. I'm not for selling the account as the OP is evidently wanting to do........but, it's not against the rules (as far as I can tell). It might be an opportunity for someone........so there is a plus side, too.
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