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Charter Account Value?

Lord Sullivan
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09-20-2009 13:15
From: Blue Frequency
Thanks!


You are welcome but it is something that is hard to put a price on especially as each year going by current things the account is actually worth 389USD in benefits, Tier and Stipend, now I know LL said with charter membership that was for life as I would have had one if the Military hadn't shipped me off then, but I think many are disheartened with the direction that LL seem to be taking so feel that perhaps that LL will change the rules and that will affect everyone, Charter members included.

However unless LL seLL SL, which realisticly I personally do not think they will for some time yet, the price I gave would be good value after the first 18 months or so it would be realising a profit, and I was taking into account the initial purchase price :)
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09-20-2009 13:18
From: LittleMe Jewell
Nice to see those figures. I had just tossed out a figure of roughly $500 or more if I had been asked a year ago. I guess I wasn't too far off the mark.


I think you were not far off atall as Blue asked about the value and of course we all value things differently :) If its legit and I have no reason to think its not then the figures I gave would be a fair value in my personal opinion :)
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09-20-2009 13:26
There is no reason to doubt the OP's sincerity or legitimacy, but it does bring us to want to play the who is this Avatar wishing to fade aawy with a pocketful of Lindens and is he someone we all now?
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09-20-2009 13:27
From: Brenda Connolly
There is no reason to doubt the OP's sincerity or legitimacy, but it does bring us to want to play the who is this Avatar wishing to fade aawy with a pocketful of Lindens and is he someone we all now?


LOL you are so inquisitive, are you sure you don't work for the Government :P
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09-20-2009 13:33
From: Lord Sullivan
LOL you are so inquisitive, are you sure you don't work for the Government :P
It is that 'teacher' side of her -- close enough to government work anyway.
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09-20-2009 13:34
From: Brenda Connolly
There is no reason to doubt the OP's sincerity or legitimacy, but it does bring us to want to play the who is this Avatar wishing to fade aawy with a pocketful of Lindens and is he someone we all now?


Honestly I would not recommend the purchase of this account if you want to masquerade as someone else. Whoever buys this should focus on the land value.
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09-20-2009 13:35
From: Lord Sullivan
I think you were not far off atall as Blue asked about the value and of course we all value things differently :) If its legit and I have no reason to think its not then the figures I gave would be a fair value in my personal opinion :)
Yeah, a year ago, maybe even only 6 months back, I would have value it at the $500 or more. And I really really wish I had enough faith in LL to still value it like that. I get more sad than frustrated when I think of where SL may be in a year, compared to where it could be if the creativity were not only allowed to continue freely, but actually encouraged and supported by policy.
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09-20-2009 13:36
From: Blue Frequency
Honestly I would not recommend the purchase of this account if you want to masquerade as someone else. Whoever buys this should focus on the land value.
I think she is more curious as to what long-term person that we may know has decided to let go an account like this.
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09-20-2009 13:38
From: LittleMe Jewell
I think she is more curious as to what long-term person that we may know has decided to let go an account like this.


That's somewhat irrelevant to this discussion I think.
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09-20-2009 13:40
From: Blue Frequency
That's somewhat irrelevant to this discussion I think.
Of course it is, but we are an inquisitive bunch, so sometimes we just cannot help but wonder.
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09-20-2009 13:42
From: LittleMe Jewell
Of course it is, but we are an inquisitive bunch, so sometimes we just cannot help but wonder.


Think of the account as a legacy item. It's current owner will not be able to use it much longer and wishes to pass it on. There is no interest in revealing the identity of the seller to the general public.
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09-20-2009 13:54
From: Blue Frequency
Think of the account as a legacy item. It's current owner will not be able to use it much longer and wishes to pass it on. There is no interest in revealing the identity of the seller to the general public.

Ignoring for a moment all of the red flags and alarms going off in my head, let me turn the question around: How much would YOU pay for a charter account if one was offered to you and you were allowed to name your own price?
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09-20-2009 13:57
From: Katheryne Helendale
Ignoring for a moment all of the red flags and alarms going off in my head, let me turn the question around: How much would YOU pay for a charter account if one was offered to you and you were allowed to name your own price?


I think I paid $200 in 2003.
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09-20-2009 14:08
From: LittleMe Jewell
I think she is more curious as to what long-term person that we may know has decided to let go an account like this.


Yep. Just a little fun curiosity.
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09-20-2009 14:14
Just wondering what if any restrictions LL has slipped in on these accounts that could surprise a buyer.

Can the 4096 be donated to group land or must it be held by the account personally?

Are there any restrictions about owning Zindra land for Charter Accounts?

I don't have a clue about charter accounts, but the way LL works these days it would sure suck to pay for something like this and turn around and find out that LL has restricted the benefits of the account to the point where it's a waste of money.
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09-20-2009 14:26
From: Blue Frequency
The value of that tier is $25 per month I think. So you would only pay the equivalent of 4 months for something that is usable forever?



SL wont be around forever.. I doubt it has 3 years of life left.
And with the content creation rules that will be coming into effect and the Stoker lawsuit.. ya $100 is the top limit I would go.
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09-20-2009 14:30
Question... Why are you selling the account?
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09-20-2009 14:34
From: Tristin Mikazuki
Question... Why are you selling the account?
I think this is all the info you'll get on that:

From: Blue Frequency
It's current owner will not be able to use it much longer and wishes to pass it on. There is no interest in revealing the identity of the seller to the general public.
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09-20-2009 14:42
From: Patasha Marikh
Just wondering what if any restrictions LL has slipped in on these accounts that could surprise a buyer.

Can the 4096 be donated to group land or must it be held by the account personally?

Are there any restrictions about owning Zindra land for Charter Accounts?

I don't have a clue about charter accounts, but the way LL works these days it would sure suck to pay for something like this and turn around and find out that LL has restricted the benefits of the account to the point where it's a waste of money.


There are no restrictions on a charter account. It cannot be used on estate land though because the Charter agreement is between the account holder and LL.
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09-20-2009 14:47
From: Tristin Mikazuki
SL wont be around forever.. I doubt it has 3 years of life left.
And with the content creation rules that will be coming into effect and the Stoker lawsuit.. ya $100 is the top limit I would go.


If your assumption that SL will end in 3 years is correct then the account would be worth around $560.

I will offer that when LL sold the Charter accounts most people thought it probable that SL would not last 2 more years. It was somewhat of a risky investment at the time.

I personally believe LL will continue to surprise people with their longevity.
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09-20-2009 15:10
From: Blue Frequency
I will offer that when LL sold the Charter accounts most people thought it probable that SL would not last 2 more years. It was somewhat of a risky investment at the time.

The uncertainty back then was due to SL being new and unproven. The uncertainty now is due to LL themselves and the string of really annoying moves they've pulled. Personally, I'm unhappy with the number of times I've wondered if the Linden I'm listening to is just outright lying or if they're really *that* out of touch with reality. I don't think I'm alone in this.
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I personally believe LL will continue to surprise people with their longevity.

/me hopes so.
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09-20-2009 15:12
From: Blue Frequency
There are no restrictions on a charter account. It cannot be used on estate land though because the Charter agreement is between the account holder and LL.


What does "can not be used on estate land" mean? It can't own an estate or it can't teleport to an estate?

Any other agreements that would impact it's use?
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09-20-2009 15:14
From: Blue Frequency
You could still be you but you would be able to take advantage of the accounts land value.

I could keep the name Rhonda Huntress?
Cool.

I'll give you ... ummm 50 bucks.
The 4K mainland is nothing I need but I could donate it it to Forum Cartel.
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09-20-2009 15:14
From: Patasha Marikh
What does "can not be used on estate land" mean? It can't own an estate or it can't teleport to an estate??

The free tier only works on mainland land.. It doesn't count against any non-mainland fees.
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09-20-2009 15:15
From: Brenda Connolly
You're more optimitic than me...I'm going month to month. :p

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