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Katheryne Helendale
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09-20-2009 12:19
From: Blue Frequency
Thanks for sharing.
I think the amount I would pay would be commensurate with the social grace exhibited by the seller; which, in this case, would be the Ransom of Red Chief.
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09-20-2009 12:21
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I don't believe you. If there was a legal way to do this, I might be interested. The account needn't be "you", you could just use it as an alt in a land-owning group and harvest the stipend and free tier. But as I said, I don't believe you.


ok. All one has to do is contact LL and get permission.
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09-20-2009 12:23
From: Katheryne Helendale
I think the amount I would pay would be commensurate with the social grace exhibited by the seller; which, in this case, would be the Ransom of Red Chief.


Ah the old tired tirade of enforced politeness.

It's a rare item in this world of mass copy. I don't really want to debate whether people want it or not, whether I have permission to sell, or anything else. I'm just interested in what you think it's worth.
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09-20-2009 12:24
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Let Ebay be the judge. (^_^)y


Do you sell your SL related stuff on Ebay?
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09-20-2009 12:26
From: Tristin Mikazuki
lol thats why I said only $100 usd.. Linden Lab has killed the value of a charter account hard.. $100 might even be to high now.


The value of that tier is $25 per month I think. So you would only pay the equivalent of 4 months for something that is usable forever?
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09-20-2009 12:27
I wish my first alt 2003 could figured SL out during beta and that post beta period and had the funds to get charter membership. There is lot of charter members I bet that don't even use their accounts any more.
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09-20-2009 12:28
OK..I've thought about it, and I guess I could echo Lil's numbers. I don't have any alts, but I guess I could use that one as just a something or other..keep it chained up somewhere and fed scraps. So I'd say $100 to 250 USD is a fair price for me.
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09-20-2009 12:40
What is the name of the account you are trying to sell?
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09-20-2009 12:43
From: SuezanneC Baskerville
What is the name of the account you are trying to sell?


Out of concern for privacy only myself, LL, and the buyer will know that information.
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09-20-2009 12:44
From: FD Spark
I wish my first alt 2003 could figured SL out during beta and that post beta period and had the funds to get charter membership. There is lot of charter members I bet that don't even use their accounts any more.


This is true. Many of the Charters do not participate in SL anymore and to top it off they have land everywhere filled with old clunky builds that will never be updated.
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09-20-2009 12:46
I went back and did some calcs. I rent partof my tier now because I trust who I rent from and it is cheaper than paying LL the increase to the next level. For a while, I was renting all of my tier except the two free 512s I get from my two premium accts -- I had 4 premiums, but downgraded the other two when I started renting tier.

I rent tier at .25 L$ sqm/wk, then 512 sqm (at 270 L$ to usd rate):
512 * .25 = 128 L$/wk (.47/ wk usd)
* 52 weeks = 6656 L$/yr (24.65/yr usd)
/ 12 months = 555 L$/mth (2.05/mth usd) PER 512 RENTED
..........So that is 8.20/mth usd for 4096, 98.40/yr.

In addition to the 4096 of tier, I would not be paying my $1.19/mth usd for one of my alts (14.28/yr - that assumes 270 L$ per usd and takes into account getting back L$300 per week).

And I **think** the charter accounts get L$500 per week in stipend, so that is L$200 more than I get now -- another $0.74/wk * 52 weeks = 8.88/yr.

So, that is 98.40/yr + 14.28/yr + 8.88/yr = $121.56/yr

Given many of our feelings and confidence levels about SL right now, my $200-250 value might be a tad high, but I would probably still pay it.

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09-20-2009 12:48
From: Blue Frequency
Out of concern for privacy only myself, LL, and the buyer will know that information.

Methinks you are attempting, in a roundabout way, to turn this thread into an auction block. I do not believe this is allowed in RA, so... IBTL.
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09-20-2009 12:48
From: LittleMe Jewell
I went back and did some calcs. I rent partof my tier now because I trust who I rent from and it is cheaper than paying LL the increase to the next level. For a while, I was renting all of my tier except the two free 512s I get from my two premium accts -- I had 4 premiums, but downgraded the other two when I started renting tier.

I rent tier at .25 L$ sqm/wk, then 512 sqm (at 270 L$ to usd rate):
512 * .25 = 128 L$/wk (.47/ wk usd)
* 52 weeks = 6656 L$/yr (24.65/yr usd)
/ 12 months = 555 L$/mth (2.05/mth usd) PER 512 RENTED
..........So that is 8.20/mth usd for 4096, 98.40/yr.

In addition to the 4096 of tier, I would not be paying my $1.19/mth usd for one of my alts (14.28/yr - that assumes 270 L$ per usd and takes into account getting back L$300 per week).

And I **think** the charter accounts get L$500 per week in stipend, so that is L$200 more than I get now -- another $0.74/wk * 52 weeks = 8.88/yr.

So, that is 98.40/yr + 14.28/yr + 8.88/yr = $121.56/yr

Given many of our feelings and confidence levels about SL right now, my $200-250 value might be a tad high, but I would probably still pay it.

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Oh yeah thanks for reminding me. The account does get L$500 per week.

So are you saying SL will be closed in 8-10 months?
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09-20-2009 12:49
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so... IBTL.
I tried that in a few threads lately -- I don't think LL cares anymore.
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09-20-2009 12:49
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Methinks you are attempting, in a roundabout way, to turn this thread into an auction block. I do not believe this is allowed in RA, so... IBTL.


This is not an auction. This is a discussion about a unique account type in SL and it's value. Thanks for trolling this thread twice now.
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09-20-2009 12:50
From: LittleMe Jewell
I tried that in a few threads lately -- I don't think LL cares anymore.
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Millie's still around, and I'm pretty sure I saw a second resmod recently.
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09-20-2009 12:52
From: Katheryne Helendale
Millie's still around, and I'm pretty sure I saw a second resmod recently.


Do I really have to link for you the hundreds of threads titled "what would you pay for XYZ"?
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09-20-2009 12:55
From: Blue Frequency
Oh yeah thanks for reminding me. The account does get L$500 per week.

So are you saying SL will be closed in 8-10 months?
I would not go so far as to say it will close that quickly. I think they are really going down the wrong path though and I think the reasons that me and many others are here will not exist in a year or there will be enough other changes that it will just not be fun any more. Given the rate that technology advances, it is also very possible that within another year, they will have some very viable competition.

Let's just say I have minimum faith in what SL will be like in a year. This past year has changed in such a negative way, regardless of all of the improvements that they have made in up time and overall grid performance.
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09-20-2009 13:00
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Millie's still around, and I'm pretty sure I saw a second resmod recently.


Cybin did pop in the other day, lock in hand.
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09-20-2009 13:01
Initial Charter membership cost 250 USD, Annual tier payments saved 300 USD, Annual stipend 89 USD so to me the account would be worth 650 USD but with the way LL are doing things who knows what will happen in 12/24 months :)

Good luck with finding a buyer :)
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09-20-2009 13:04
From: Blue Frequency
Oh yeah thanks for reminding me. The account does get L$500 per week.

So are you saying SL will be closed in 8-10 months?


I go with Lil again. I don't necessarily think SL will be gone in a year although with LL anything is possible, but I also think that it could be a far different SL from the one many of us enjoy currently. And there could possibly be viable competitors by then as well.
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09-20-2009 13:07
From: Lord Sullivan
Initial Charter membership cost 250 USD, Annual tier payments saved 300 USD, Annual stipend 89 USD so to me the account would be worth 650 USD but with the way LL are doing things who knows what will happen in 12/24 months :)

Good luck with finding a buyer :)


Thanks!
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09-20-2009 13:08
From: Lord Sullivan
Initial Charter membership cost 250 USD, Annual tier payments saved 300 USD, Annual stipend 89 USD so to me the account would be worth 650 USD but with the way LL are doing things who knows what will happen in 12/24 months :)

Good luck with finding a buyer :)
Nice to see those figures. I had just tossed out a figure of roughly $500 or more if I had been asked a year ago. I guess I wasn't too far off the mark.
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09-20-2009 13:10
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Nice to see those figures. I had just tossed out a figure of roughly $500 or more if I had been asked a year ago. I guess I wasn't too far off the mark.


Wow, great call. You should work for the Government. :p
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Wow, great call. You should work for the Government. :p
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