Haterade in Sl, anyone just outright snap at you?
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Kidd Krasner
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05-14-2008 17:02
From: Blu Cazalet So last night...I got bored...and, as I sometimes do when that happens....I pull up my map to see where a bunch of green dots are. And I will tp there...Kinda like Teleporting Kamakazee. I end up in the ocean outside of someone's house, complete with a ton of ban lines. I come up out of the ocean and am floating in the air, looking at my map for the next location to ck out. Some chick who will remain nameless, but has only been in SL since March, is married and has 5 kids....ahem....Flys out to meet me. I say Hi...she says, Can I help you? I said, nope...sorry...was tping around looking to meet people and ended up here...she says..."Why you looking at my house bit*h?" I said, "Wow, such hostility!" Then I leave but IM her and say she is about the nastiest person I have met on SL in my almost a yr of being here. She says a few other trailer trashy things, and then says, "Tomorrow, while you are not online, I will have your man...hahahahaha" I mute.
I wouldn't dream of defending her response, but I suggest that random jumping around on the map is no longer an appropriate way of finding interesting places. I also wouldn't dream of defending the limitations of SL search. An alternative is to scan the various third party websites to find interesting places.
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Jillian Callahan
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05-14-2008 17:04
From: Kidd Krasner I wouldn't dream of defending her response, but I suggest that random jumping around on the map is no longer an appropriate way of finding interesting places. Why?
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Dakota Tebaldi
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05-14-2008 17:07
From: Imnotgoing Sideways Done... 1 hour... Nothing. (=_=) Well... I did laugh and slapfight with a furry for some of that hour. (^_^)y Well that's not exciting. Sheesh, what do you have to do these days to get people talking?
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Brenda Connolly
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05-14-2008 17:17
From: Blu Cazalet She says a few other trailer trashy things, and then says, "Tomorrow, while you are not online, I will have your man...hahahahaha"
To which I would have replied, "Fair enough. I had yours last night. believe me, you will be getting the better part of the deal."
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Maya Remblai
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05-14-2008 17:46
From: Jillian Callahan Why? Because usually those green dots are clustered there on private property and want to be left alone. I usually end up with lots of green dots in my workshop because my friends and I tend to hang around together when we're building. But that doesn't mean that just anyone's presence is wanted. If a stranger shows up (which occasionally they do) the land owner politely explains that we're working and want privacy. Or just kicks them out. It depends on whose land it is  Personally I don't mind if people explore my land and builds, but I'm nervous of building around strangers and prefer to be left alone when I'm in my skybox working. As for nasty people, if I'm in some public place I usually just laugh and go on with my business. If it's in my home sims, I ban them if they keep it up, since I'm an EM and I can do that  I also log the conversation in a notecard for later entertainment. I have a folder reserved for the lol-worthy conversations I have, many of which are from people like those mentioned above who need a clue. The most recent one is a log from a game of Slingo a couple of friends and I were in. One friend was hosting, so the other friend and I went to support her. Since this location caters primarily to human avs, we three usually go as something unusual and/or silly and do silly things like dance on our cards, which the other players usually find amusing. Anyway we were doing our usual thing, when one person who claimed to be a child av but really wasn't, started complaining in open chat that one friend (who was afk at the time) was IMing her asking for sexual ageplay. She also attacked me, saying various bad things about having a furry av. Said friend would never do that and was afk at the time anyway, and my SL is strictly G-rated, so that made it funny. The icing on the cake though was that later this loud individual was banned from the sim for this incident XD
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Weston Graves
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05-14-2008 17:52
From: Jillian Callahan Why? Agreed. Why? I love to teleport at random on the map. I don't do it to the middle of where a building is showing up, nor very close to another green dot in case they need privacy, but I've found some great places that way.
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Jillian Callahan
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05-14-2008 17:57
From: Maya Remblai Because usually those green dots are clustered there on private property and want to be left alone. I usually end up with lots of green dots in my workshop because my friends and I tend to hang around together when we're building. But that doesn't mean that just anyone's presence is wanted. If a stranger shows up (which occasionally they do) the land owner politely explains that we're working and want privacy. Or just kicks them out. It depends on whose land it is  Personally I don't mind if people explore my land and builds, but I'm nervous of building around strangers and prefer to be left alone when I'm in my skybox working. I doubt that it's "usually" a small group wanting to be let alone. Plus the land tools let you totally avoid the problem of droppers-by.
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Maya Remblai
The one with pink hair.
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05-14-2008 18:42
From: Jillian Callahan I doubt that it's "usually" a small group wanting to be let alone. Plus the land tools let you totally avoid the problem of droppers-by. 1) "Usually" In my experience. 2) The Ryder estate bans banlines, and security systems have to be at high altitudes and with reasonable warnings. If the place isn't a club or a store, assume it's private and don't drop in on them.  In my experience not everyone is going to be patient and understanding when a stranger drops in. I've had friends complain and get aggressive with strangers that dropped in on ME on MY property.
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Mjolnir Uriza
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05-14-2008 18:57
From: Marianne McCann Well, I figgure that some folks jes wanna be mean, ya know? I mean, she did't know me at all, jes saw me come riding up an went on the assumptions that:
a. I'm one of "those icky sexual ageplayers" she heard about on Sky News or wherever, and/or
b. All of SL is about sex, so obviously this person is here for sexual ageplay.
Alternately, it could have simply been\
c. "eew, something different from me! I have no ability to cope! zOMG!"
But some folks just dun seem to do "thing outside my experience" well, I guess.
Mari yes i think these are the people who spent most of there high school years locked in a wall locker and are trying to get back at the world
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Blu Cazalet
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05-14-2008 20:27
From: Brenda Connolly To which I would have replied, "Fair enough. I had yours last night. believe me, you will be getting the better part of the deal." First off, Brenda...I am gonna have to hang out with you in world...you totally crack me up...I WISH I had thought about saying that HAHAHAHAHA. Secondly...in the almost year I have been in SL and TPing around aimlessly...that is the FIRST time I met someone like that. Usually, to my disappointment, the cluster of green dots indicates campers. If I only see one to, say...4 dots...I avoid the place and if I think it is a private house or something I also don't go. I have met some wonderful people that way. I think Trailer Trash girl was a bit of an anomaly in this case. I forgot to mention...that she said...after I said, I was tping around and ended up there....that she would AR me for stalking her! LOL.. Thank God I save ALL my chats. lololol. -Blu-
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Jillian Callahan
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05-14-2008 20:28
From: Maya Remblai 1) "Usually" In my experience. 2) The Ryder estate bans banlines, and security systems have to be at high altitudes and with reasonable warnings. If the place isn't a club or a store, assume it's private and don't drop in on them.  In my experience not everyone is going to be patient and understanding when a stranger drops in. I've had friends complain and get aggressive with strangers that dropped in on ME on MY property. Don't need ban lines or a script to handle droppers-by. If you drop in on someone and it's not a public place as it appeared it may be, one simply apologies and toddles off. No harm done. No, not everyone is of sound enough mind to be patient with the occasional accidental dropper-by, that's just life.
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Blu Cazalet
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05-14-2008 21:33
From: Jillian Callahan Don't need ban lines or a script to handle droppers-by.
If you drop in on someone and it's not a public place as it appeared it may be, one simply apologies and toddles off. No harm done. No, not everyone is of sound enough mind to be patient with the occasional accidental dropper-by, that's just life. I totally agree. I have had people just walk into my house (I am kind of a private person in my own place) and I just say, sorry private residence. I have had someone start a conversation with me...very friendly...they ended up getting the grand tour and we chatted for like 1/2 hour. lol. But...to be attacked like that SHEESH. -Blu-
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Liralyn Lyle
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05-14-2008 22:39
From: Ciera Spyker I was shopping with friends from my club a few nites ago, we were having a lot of fun, teleporting around the universe. We were three, very large pregnant woman, out store hopping. Quite a sight I'm sure.
We go to a certain really well known hair place and almot instantly, for lack of a better term to describe them, these harpies came screeching down on us and actually formed a cirlce and started going off on how we looked. Mind you they were the typical Max-mim-Max dialed shape dancer types. And is was kinda funny how it reminded me of a girl friend of mine whos a real stripper.
So I was wondering if others recieved "haterade" from other residents and why?
Ciera Spyker The Preggo Goddess
POP INDUSTRIES - now on Verona as well as Unknown Tranquility! No, it's never happened to me.
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Warda Kawabata
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05-15-2008 04:18
Hmm, I just got some random idiot calling me all manner of bad words for refusing to use voice over in Ahern. After he called me a social retarded ****, I pointed out that I wasn't the one swearing out loud at random strangers in public.
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Rioko Bamaisin
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05-15-2008 05:15
From: Sindy Tsure Maybe she had a bad fishing incident in her youth? LMAO I have yet to meet any real asshats in SL. Though I think it would be quite comical to meet one and screw with their head.
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Storm Thunders
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05-15-2008 06:01
Met a few like that. But I've met a lot more strangers who end up on my friendslist, so I only back away from the armed ones. 
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Kidd Krasner
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05-15-2008 06:33
From: Jillian Callahan Why? Well, the obvious question is why do you think it's ok? Remember, it's your obligation to justify your behavior. But I'll answer your question: Dropping in on a group like that is like going to a park, seeing a random group of people hanging around or having a picnic or whatever, and walking over and listening in. It's rude and inappropriate. Just because it's a public place doesn't mean there's an open invitation for anyone to join. There are lots of variations to this, with a lot of cultural experience being brought into play. It's ok to sit and watch a group playing some game (football, frisbee, whatever), maybe even ask to join. It's not ok to sit and watch at someone getting a barbecue started. If there's some event happening (e.g. a freshman outing for a nearby college), and you're part of the event, then random mingling may be ok. But obviously with SL, you have none of the information needed to help make these decisions. You really can't tell from the map whether you're jumping into a house, a club, or a sex party. Short of a clever sign visible on the map, there's nothing about a collection of green dots that could possibly justify a conclusion that it's open to the public. Perhaps that wasn't true in earlier days, when all or almost all such gatherings were public. But as land gets cheaper and more people get places for themselves in SL, that's no longer the case.
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Kidd Krasner
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05-15-2008 06:40
From: Jillian Callahan Don't need ban lines or a script to handle droppers-by.
If you drop in on someone and it's not a public place as it appeared it may be, one simply apologies and toddles off. No harm done. No, not everyone is of sound enough mind to be patient with the occasional accidental dropper-by, that's just life. There is harm done. Having to deal with strangers is stressful to people who don't get value out of meeting new people. It's especially stressful to people who are relatively new yet unfortunate enough to have experienced griefers. Being interrupted is stressful to people for whom keeping focus is difficult. Yes, you're right, it happens. And yes, people should be able to cope with it properly. But please don't conclude that a brief, polite interaction is the same as a positive or neutral event to the other person.
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Kidd Krasner
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05-15-2008 06:45
From: Jillian Callahan I doubt that it's "usually" a small group wanting to be let alone. Plus the land tools let you totally avoid the problem of droppers-by. Whether it's usually or mostly or often or sometimes isn't really relevant. As long as it's not "exceedingly rare", it's enough of an issue. Neither the land tools nor security devices are a complete answer. First, an unlocked door is not the same as an open invitation. Second, there are circumstances where they simply don't meet the need. For example, someone may want to have a party for a group which is not the group owning a parcel. It's not reasonable to expect them to add all the invitees to the parcel ownership group, nor to temporarily change a security orb belong to the other group, nor to buy another orb for this purpose.
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Marcel Flatley
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05-15-2008 06:50
Well I met Chris in-world a few times.
What was the question again?
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
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05-15-2008 07:26
From: Kidd Krasner ...people who don't get value out of meeting new people... That is something I just don't get. (o.o) ... Antisocial people in a social network. Am I missing something? (o.o) I mean, really, there are WAY better 3D design, programming, scripting, and physics simulation tools out there... For free! Why bother getting involved in SL if all you really want to do is NOT meet anyone? (o.o)
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Colette Forster
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05-15-2008 07:34
I don't get intolerance IW...it makes no sense to me! The possibilities are unlimited...one has to cease being surprised and judgmental.
Although, I do still have some issues with child avs...just creepy, but I still am not mean about it!
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Toy LaFollette
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05-15-2008 07:38
makes ya kinda wonder why kid avs were specifically brought up 
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Tegg Bode
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05-15-2008 07:44
From: Brenda Connolly To which I would have replied, "Fair enough. I had yours last night. believe me, you will be getting the better part of the deal." LOL, nice, I always remember some graffiti on a sign that said "I had your mum last night" A few weeks later someone had added the reply "ewww, thanks a lot Dad!"
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Dakota Tebaldi
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05-15-2008 07:51
From: Toy LaFollette makes ya kinda wonder why kid avs were specifically brought up  Because we rule SL. The others sense our power and are jealous!
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