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Are RL trademarks used in-world intended to be ironic?

Michael Bigwig
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11-20-2007 11:59
From: Avion Raymaker
You may be a slimy thief, and a person of despicable character, but at least you are honest about it. I'll give you that.


Wow. I'm beginning to seriously see myself as the 'good guy' in this forum now'adays. With posts like this, who needs another Hitler.

lol.

Bye the way, thanks. I've always told everyone I'm honest, and you know where you stand with me.

Just be lucky I don't steal YOUR product, because I'd make more money doing it. Ha ha. I'm kidding.
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Sally Silvera
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11-20-2007 12:01
From: Brenda Connolly
Well, at least we've avoided the "Where is my stipend" threads.


I prefer those :o
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Lexxi Gynoid
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11-20-2007 12:03
From: Nina Stepford
people like you are the reason we have warnings such as 'do not eat' on rat poison.

Notice, I didn't buy the bloody stupid camera. Nor would I "eat" rat poison.
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Michael Bigwig
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11-20-2007 12:04
From: Lexxi Gynoid
I really did think the camera might be endorsed by Nikon, though, when I visited the shop. It was called a Nikon and had a Nikon number and everything. Looked like a Nikon. I didn't understand why Nikon, though, would have just one camera in game, so was confused. More confused as to what the camera did, but that is a different matter.

Then saw Nike in freebie boxes, and then saw a really long form that needs to be "I Agree"'d just to receive the free Mercedes uniform from the Mercedes island, and realized that just because something says Nike doesn't mean it is by Nike.



Not sure how to respond to this. If I was going to keep the Nikon brand--which I'm not--I suppose I'd have to put a disclaimer on it.

The camera is a Nikon SL100....SL...100...Second Life's first model. I thought that was clever...anyway. lol. I'm just teasing you by the way.

It's cool, I know it's dope and all...it MUST be a Nikon. Again, I'm only teasing. It's cute you thought it was a legit Nikon...that's what I was going for. Although again, the design and texture placement are all mine...so it's a 'new' model, exclusive to SL.

But that's all changing. Brenda and I are going into business...she names my products, I make them...

The Mikon SL100 --get it while it's hot...next week.
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Michael Bigwig
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11-20-2007 12:05
From: Lexxi Gynoid
Notice, I didn't buy the bloody stupid camera. Nor would I "eat" rat poison.



Hey...'bloody stupid camera'...I'm insulted. I rather like it.
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Chris Norse
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11-20-2007 12:06
From: Nina Stepford
people like you are the reason we have warnings such as 'do not eat' on rat poison.



So Nina, you believe fraud is a legitimate way to conduct business? Lying is lying. Theft is theft. Doesn't matter who is doing it or who the victim is.

I guess you would have no problem with me starting a land rental company and calling it "Nina Stepford's Rental Homes" ?
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Cristalle Karami
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11-20-2007 12:08
From: Chris Norse
So Nina, you believe fraud is a legitimate way to conduct business? Lying is lying. Theft is theft. Doesn't matter who is doing it or who the victim is.

I guess you would have no problem with me starting a land rental company and calling it "Nina Stepford's Rental Homes" ?

If they were outhouses, maybe...
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Darien Caldwell
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11-20-2007 12:12
From: Michael Bigwig
Ummm...if they don't know that I"m 'representing my product as being associated by the RL company', there is something wrong. We can all see the logo NIKON on the sign, camera, notecard...

I've never hid any of this. We are all capable of making the decision to buy or not, correct?



There is a simple way to resolve this. Call up Nikon and ask them permission. If they say yes, all is well. If they say no, change your logo and move along. End of debate.
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11-20-2007 12:13
From: Michael Bigwig
Wow. I'm beginning to seriously see myself as the 'good guy' in this forum now'adays. With posts like this, who needs another Hitler.

lol.
.

Me whips off her pants and waves them in salute
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Nina Stepford
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11-20-2007 12:14
this is sl. dont give a shit about rl corporate interests here.
From: Chris Norse
So Nina, you believe fraud is a legitimate way to conduct business? Lying is lying. Theft is theft. Doesn't matter who is doing it or who the victim is.

I guess you would have no problem with me starting a land rental company and calling it "Nina Stepford's Rental Homes" ?
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Nina Stepford
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11-20-2007 12:14
ill pass your kind words on to ace and parker.
From: Cristalle Karami
If they were outhouses, maybe...
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Chris Norse
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11-20-2007 12:16
From: Nina Stepford
this is sl. dont give a shit about rl corporate interests here.


You didn't answer my question. Would you be upset if I opened "Nina Stepford's Rental Houses"?

I don't leave my principles behind when I log in. It appears you do.
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Cristalle Karami
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11-20-2007 12:18
From: Nina Stepford
ill pass your kind words on to ace and parker.

I wasn't talking about them at all. I know nothing of your business.

The point is that these laws/practices are there to protect customers from the sullying of a reputation by use of an unapproved, inferior product. If he started a business in your name and used outhouses, it might change your opinion of whether or not it's right to piggy back off your name.
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Michael Bigwig
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11-20-2007 12:22
From: Cristalle Karami
I wasn't talking about them at all. I know nothing of your business.

The point is that these laws/practices are there to protect customers from the sullying of a reputation by use of an unapproved, inferior product. If he started a business in your name and used outhouses, it might change your opinion of whether or not it's right to piggy back off your name.


Ha! Great idea. Those who oppose me will feel the wrath of Glowbox...they will suffer the snap of my creative whip.

I'm going to start manufacturing toilets, urinals, porta-potties, and outhouses...each of you who insult me, will receive their own models. I will sell them to all!

lol.

OH man...
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Colette Meiji
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11-20-2007 12:24
From: Michael Bigwig
Ha! Great idea. Those who oppose me will feel the wrath of Glowbox...they will suffer the snap of my creative whip.

I'm going to start manufacturing toilets, urinals, porta-potties, and outhouses...each of you who insult me, will receive their own models. I will sell them to all!

lol.

OH man...


there has been very little insulting you going on in this thread.
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11-20-2007 12:25
From: Michael Bigwig
Ha! Great idea. Those who oppose me will feel the wrath of Glowbox...they will suffer the snap of my creative whip.

I'm going to start manufacturing toilets, urinals, porta-potties, and outhouses...each of you who insult me, will receive their own models. I will sell them to all!

lol.

OH man...


If you make a toilet with my name on it, Nina will probably buy one.
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Nina Stepford
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11-20-2007 12:25
i am a sl entity, not a rl corporation.
there is a difference.
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11-20-2007 12:27
From: Nina Stepford
i am a sl entity, not a rl corporation.
there is a difference.


No there isn't. Theft is theft.
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Cristalle Karami
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11-20-2007 12:27
Only in scale, not whether or not something is stealing.
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Colette Meiji
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11-20-2007 12:29
From: Nina Stepford
i am a sl entity, not a rl corporation.
there is a difference.


Only in that you are someone down at "our level"

While the corporation is nameless and faceless on a personal scale.

If it is unethical to do it to some 1 person company operating in SL that earns 50 cents a day.

It is also Unethical to do it to some huge multinational conglomerate.

It just doesnt feel bad doing the latter.
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11-20-2007 12:31
From: Chris Norse
If you make a toilet with my name on it, Nina will probably buy one.

I'll buy them and hand them out at the Christmas Party
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Michael Bigwig
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11-20-2007 12:32
From: Colette Meiji
there has been very little insulting you going on in this thread.


Colette...I was only joking. And didn't use names. Let's lighten up here, OK?
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Nina Stepford
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11-20-2007 12:33
no, there is a stark difference between making a conscious decision to misrepresent yourself as another sl business, and some guy using some rl logo on a tshirt or something.
to suggest otherwise is disingenuous.
do you really believe that sl mac was commissioned by apple? get real.
From: Cristalle Karami
Only in scale, not whether or not something is stealing.
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11-20-2007 12:34
From: Brenda Connolly
I'll buy them and hand them out at the Christmas Party


I am so on this -- the chris norse crapper camper -- can I TM this? And if I do --- does Chris have to pay me to use it?
Robustus Hax
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11-20-2007 12:35
From: Chris Norse
No there isn't. Theft is theft.



Hope you never sung "happy birthday" to anyone, you better start paying up the royalty fees for using that song without permission. Theft is theft.
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