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Haggis is an English and not a Scottish dish
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08-03-2009 13:45
Hah! There's a story on this on NPR at this very moment.
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08-03-2009 13:51
From: Lord Sullivan
Haggis is an English and not a Scottish dish
There is a large mistaken assumption in that title. The definition of 'dish', used in this context, is:

"The food served in a dish; hence, any particular kind of food; as, a cold dish; a warm dish; a delicious dish."


Haggis is NOT food of any sort, therefore it cannot be a DISH of any sort

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08-03-2009 13:51
Sir Henry Browne Hayes believed that the snakes that were evicted from Ireland ended up in Australia, so he had a shipful of earth sent from Ireland to Australia and surrounded his estate in Sydney with a trench filled with Irish earth.
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08-03-2009 13:54
Nowadays there *are* snakes in Ireland, because people have imported them as pets.

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08-03-2009 13:57
The researcher is way off. Just a cursory look at the Greater Oxford Dictionary shows references to the dish as far back as 1420 (the Liber Cocorum), and a cook-book of 1430.

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08-03-2009 13:59
From: Conifer Dada
England was coming to the end of bing ruled by the Romans ....
In that case, England wasn't England. It acquired the name after the influx of the Angles and Saxons from Jutland, which was after the Romans had gone.
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08-03-2009 14:15
From: Phil Deakins
In that case, England wasn't England. It acquired the name after the influx of the Angles and Saxons from Jutland, which was after the Romans had gone.


Aha!

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08-03-2009 14:23
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08-03-2009 14:54
From: Lord Sullivan
I don't think it will for one moment harm the Scots claim on it as its always been a traditional Scottish dish and steeped in Scottish history rather than English, I saw the report as another piece of friendly rivalry between England and Scotland and it made me :)

@ Brianna Its really nice laced with the good old English traditional and iconic HP sauce :P

http://www.icons.org.uk/nom/nominations/hp-sauce


Deep fried Haggis along with deep fried Mars bar from the chippie goes down a treat in Edinburgh but the sauce is unique, definitely not HP, and I doubt any other nationality would care to claim origin of that particular watery brown gunk :-)

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08-03-2009 14:57
From: LittleMe Jewell
There is a large mistaken assumption in that title. The definition of 'dish', used in this context, is:

"The food served in a dish; hence, any particular kind of food; as, a cold dish; a warm dish; a delicious dish."


Haggis is NOT food of any sort, therefore it cannot be a DISH of any sort

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LOL it is ok when it is covered in HP sauce :)
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08-03-2009 14:59
From: Rock Vacirca
The researcher is way off. Just a cursory look at the Greater Oxford Dictionary shows references to the dish as far back as 1420 (the Liber Cocorum), and a cook-book of 1430.

Rock


But they have raised their profile online admirably when you see the amount of places discussing it :) Bet they are about to release a book lol
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08-03-2009 15:02
From: Lord Sullivan
LOL it is ok when it is covered in HP sauce :)
Just so long as you keep Dell sauce the heck away from me.
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08-03-2009 15:03
From: Lasher Oh
Deep fried Haggis along with deep fried Mars bar from the chippie goes down a treat in Edinburgh but the sauce is unique, definitely not HP, and I doubt any other nationality would care to claim origin of that particular watery brown gunk :-)

^L^


LOL you heathen not liking HP, I was so happy when I saw HP sauce in the local Dutch Supermarket though the wife thinks I am mad liking it, but she is Dutch so I will have to convert here to eating it, just need to find some decent bacon here locally now as the dutch either slice it to thin or far to thick :)
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08-03-2009 15:04
From: Argent Stonecutter
Just so long as you keep Dell sauce the heck away from me.


LOL no Dell sauce I promise
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08-03-2009 21:07
some of the greatest pranks ever played seem to come from that small corner of the world... and some of the best revenges...

joke: haggis introduced as food
revenge: served to guests that suggested it.

joke: bagpipes introduced as musical instrument
revenge: played for the people that suggested it

jokes: someone told the english they were great engineers:
revenge: they built devices to leak oil all over and then sent them to the people that suggested it.
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08-03-2009 21:28
From: Briana Dawson
Not all vegetarians/vegans (like me) are offended by meat products. I find haggis equally as gross as menudo, tripe, chitterlings, or Kimchi (non meat product).

And not all vegetarians/vegans are offended by baby cows (veal) being slaughtered for food. I will however not buy veal out of principle, but not because i am some emo Peta Vegan freak who thinks cow and chickens want to be our friends.


Cook it up!!! or not..... If its meat, I'll eat it.

On that note, I'm gonna go heat up the rest of the bacon.


Mmmmmmmm.... bacon.
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08-03-2009 21:31
From: Argent Stonecutter
Spaghetti was originally intended to be a vegetarian haggis, created by the monks of To-Fu after they were exiled from Nepal to Scotland.
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08-03-2009 21:34
From: Seven Okelli
I have long wanted to go to a proper Burns Night with all the trimmings, including haggis.

Maybe in SL? ;)

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Seven get to one the are a great night out but if you decide to hold one in SL here it the
Addressing the Haggis


Fair fa' your honest, sonsie face,
Great chieftain o' the puddin-race!
Aboon them a' ye tak your place,
Painch, tripe, or thairm:
Weel are ye wordy o' a grace
As lang's my arm.




The groaning trencher there ye fill,
Your hurdies like a distant hill,
Your pin wad help to mend a mill
In time o' need,
While thro' your pores the dews distil
Like amber bead.






His knife see rustic Labour dicht,
An' cut you up wi' ready slicht,
Trenching your gushing entrails bricht,
Like ony ditch;
And then, O what a glorious sicht,
Warm-reekin, rich!





Then, horn for horn, they stretch an' strive:
Deil tak the hindmaist! on they drive,
Till a' their weel-swall'd kytes belyve,
Are bent like drums;
Then auld Guidman, maist like to rive,
"Bethankit" hums.






Is there that o're his French ragout
Or olio that wad staw a sow,
Or fricassee wad mak her spew
Wi' perfect scunner,
Looks down wi' sneering, scornfu' view
On sic a dinner?






Poor devil! see him ower his trash,
As feckless as a wither'd rash,
His spindle shank, a guid whip-lash,
His nieve a nit;
Thro' bloody flood or field to dash,
O how unfit!








But mark the Rustic, haggis fed,
The trembling earth resounds his tread.
Clap in his wallie nieve a blade,
He'll mak it whistle;
An' legs an' arms, an' heads will sned,
Like taps o' thristle.






Ye Pow'rs wha mak mankind your care,
And dish them out their bill o' fare,
Auld Scotland wants nae skinkin ware
That jaups in luggies;
But, if ye wish her gratefu' prayer,
Gie her a haggis!


(sonsie = cheeky)
(aboon = above)
(painch = stomach, thairm = intestine)
(sonsie = cheeky)
(herdies = hips)
(dicht = wipe, here with the idea of sharpening)
(slicht = skill)
(reeking = steaming)
(deil = devil)
(swall'd=swollen, kytes = bellies,
belyve = soon)
(rive = tear, ie burst)
(olio = olive oil, staw = make sick)
(scunner = repugnance)
(nieve = fist, nit = louse's egg, ie. tiny)
(wallie = mighty, nieve = fist)
(sned = cut off)
(thristle = thistle)
(skinkin ware = watery soup)
(jaups = slops about, luggies = two-handled
continental bowls)
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08-04-2009 04:13
From: Lasher Oh
Deep fried Haggis along with deep fried Mars bar from the chippie goes down a treat in Edinburgh ...
^L^


With double chips - one on each shoulder.

(You were inviting that one - sorry!)
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08-04-2009 04:51
As if stealing their land and women weren't enough, now they're stealing their food. We need Mel Gibson to start a war!
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08-04-2009 04:54
From: Vance Adder
As if stealing their land and women weren't enough, now they're stealing their food. We need Mel Gibson to start a war!

You might do better with someone taller.

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08-04-2009 05:35
From: Pserendipity Daniels
You might do better with someone taller.

Pep (Mel lost)


How about Liam Neeson?



Or Craig Ferguson?

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08-04-2009 05:50
From: Seven Okelli
How about Liam Neeson? Or Craig Ferguson?

Liam's too old now but Bing Hitler would have possibilities.

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08-04-2009 08:29
About driving snakes:

From: http://www.wisn.com/automotive/20203434/detail.html


Police say a driver blamed a car crash in Hartford, Conn., on two pet baby snakes that he said escaped from his pants pockets as he was driving...

[A]nimal control officers never found the snakes and police have been unable to confirm his story.


Perhaps St. Patrick drove the snakes from the man's pants?

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08-04-2009 08:33
From: Seven Okelli
Perhaps St. Patrick drove the snakes from the man's pants?
They were hiding from the ferrets.

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