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Haggis is an English and not a Scottish dish

Conifer Dada
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08-03-2009 08:23
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He was certainly not born in Ireland, but I thought he came from the Northwest of England.

Perhaps that region was part of Wales back then?

It was, sort of - I believe Cumbria has the same origin as the Welsh for Wales, 'Cymru' and the Latin for Wales, 'Cambria'. Some Welsh place names survive in Cumbria although most are Norse or later.Wikipedia suggests that St Patrick was born in Cumbria but there is a rival theory that he was born near what is now Weston-Super-Mare in Somerset.

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I don't think it will for one moment harm the Scots claim on it as its always been a traditional Scottish dish and steeped in Scottish history rather than English
Next we'll hear that black pudding was invented in Surrey!!!!!
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08-03-2009 08:34
From: Conifer Dada
there is a rival theory that he was born near what is now Weston-Super-Mare in Somerset.

I understand that his mother was on a day trip to Butlins, having caught the old ferry from Penarth.

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PS Black pudding was probably brought to Britain by the Romans. In fact "pudding" was originally meat based, not sweet. The following is interesting on the subject, and acknowledges that haggis was not a Scottish invention.

http://www.foodtimeline.org/foodpuddings.html
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08-03-2009 08:40
From: Conifer Dada

Next we'll hear that black pudding was invented in Surrey!!!!!


No, that came from Hampshire. First found in a place called Nether Wallop.
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08-03-2009 09:48
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That's why we gave it to the Scots.


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08-03-2009 11:12
From: Pserendipity Daniels
Black pudding was probably brought to Britain by the Romans.


In fact, The Time Team has uncovered Roman pudding shops near Hardknott.

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08-03-2009 11:17
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In fact, The Time Team has uncovered Roman pudding shops near Hardknott.
I'll look that up soon as I get over watching a bloke peel a banana with a backhoe.
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08-03-2009 11:40
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Scottish cuisine is all based on a dare.


I love that movie!
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08-03-2009 11:44
From: Argent Stonecutter
I thought the wild English haggis (long tailed haggis) had been hunted to extinction in pre-Roman times, forcing the druids to switch from haggis-tails to mistletoe for their rituals. The Irish haggis was introduced in Scotland by the da Derga but failed to survive south of Hadrian's Wall due to its tendency to explode in the presence of kippers (which eventually led to its extinction in Ireland after an unfortunate accident involving St Patrick and a hangover remedy).



Breaking News ... Long Tailed Haggis sighted in areas north and south of the Borders.
Possibility the critters may be carrying a humour related disease

G'ment advice ... "Stay indoors and tickle someones feet"
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08-03-2009 11:48
Lol. Good first post and I love that av name.
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Breaking News...catastrophe averted.
08-03-2009 12:21
BBC News reports the Lesser Spotted Black Puddin' is a potential antidote to Haggis bytes ..

Boiled,fried or raw Black Puddin' best ingested soon after purcahase can minimise symptoms of Haggis related upset.

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Lol. Good first post and I love that av name.



TY :)

Not really my first post ..
Could'nt reasist this name ..

Running Windows 7 and can't get in world for ages .. No current drivers .

I'm an alt .. Wonder who can guess my original .. ?

Annagrams might come in to play ?
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08-03-2009 12:22
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08-03-2009 12:24
From: Oscar Wylder
Annagrams might come in to play ?


Well you're not Pep, unless that is a pun.

Don't tell me this is annna? ;)

(Only if that entire av was a fiction.)
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08-03-2009 12:29
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Well you're not Pep, unless that is a pun.

Don't tell me this is annna? ;)

(Only if that entire av was a fiction.)


Nope .. I only posted a handfull of times .. but always was fun.

try re-arranging my sig .

No more help.

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08-03-2009 12:40
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Nope .. I only posted a handfull of times .. but always was fun.

try re-arranging my sig .

No more help.

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(rumplestiltskin?)

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08-03-2009 12:42
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TI.


TI is in SL?

Aren't you going to jail soon?!
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08-03-2009 13:09
From: Seven Okelli
You must be Swen Svileston

or Seven Swinolt

or Steven Swolin

or Love Twinness

I have no doubt.

(rumplestiltskin?)

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Close ..Very very close .. Still so far away .. Your second try is closest .

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08-03-2009 13:11
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TI is in SL?

Aren't you going to jail soon?!



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08-03-2009 13:18
How does haggis taste? Like a sausage? The description actually sounds edible compared to the description of lutefisk which sounds horrid.
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08-03-2009 13:21
From: Sredni Eel
Scottish cuisine is all based on a dare.


Like the Glasgow delicacy - deep fried Mars bars.
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08-03-2009 13:22
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How does haggis taste? Like a sausage? The description actually sounds edible compared to the description of lutefisk which sounds horrid.

Like shepherd's pie, without the potato.

Pep (Or black pudding without the blood)
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08-03-2009 13:27
From: Pserendipity Daniels
I understand that is covertly acknowledged by most Irish people that he was actually probably Welsh, although with Roman connections. He was kidnapped by Irish raiders and worked as a swineherd before escaping back to Wales, getting educated and choosing to return to Ireland to educate them in turn. He impressed them by banishing snakes from Ireland, which was pretty sneaky since there had never been any there in the first place.

Pep (No, I wasn't there - I'm not quite that old - but that is the version I was told by an Irish historian friend.)

PS Haggis is now much more accessible - instead of two hours boling ittakes ten minutes in a microwave; like Christmas pudding. :D )



I've heard that the Snakes were really the Druid/Celt/Fini folk, that St.Patrick targeted ;)

/faints at the thought of nuked Christmas Pudding :eek:
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08-03-2009 13:31
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/faints at the thought of nuked Christmas Pudding :eek:

. . . with joy?

Pep (or with microwaved brandy sauce?)
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08-03-2009 13:34
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Pep (Or black pudding without the blood)

*puke*
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08-03-2009 13:37
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. . . with joy?

Pep (or with microwaved brandy sauce?)



With the thought of my microwave exploding like the penguin atop the telly, as the Christmas Pudding form is made of metal ;) Steamed Chocolate Macadamia Nut Pudding :p
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08-03-2009 13:37
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I've heard that the Snakes were really the Druid/Celt/Fini folk, that St.Patrick targeted ;)

/faints at the thought of nuked Christmas Pudding :eek:


Nah .. Nuked anything is cool .


"TV`Dinners" is teh buzword.
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