Okay, Teens? Officially?

Maybe in your world, but in the real world, age is a prime indicator of maturity. Experience is a major building block of maturity.

@Briana Dawson:

No it doesn't. Believe me if Linden Lab merges the TG with the MG it will be a disaster and residents would leave SL. In other words it will turn into a battle zone with the mix of teens and adults together. I don't support the grid merge idea by LL and I think LL should fix TG problems and not merge the too.

Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

The LL machine is doing everything that indicates a merger. Yet they are saying a merger is not planned.

2003 all over again.

2004 all over again

2005 all over again

2006 all over again

If you ask your friend if he is getting ready to rob a bank, and he says "no", but yet he has bank schematics, recently bought weapons, has been stalking the bank manager, and has done other things to indicate the plan is moving forward, what would you think?

They are planning the merger.

But they are claiming it is not planned. And that would be a correct claim, since they are 'planning'.

Daniel, I have no clear idea how the Teen grid operates or is arranged, but is there some reason the young people who want things to be better there can't co-operate to make stuff and hold their own events?
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Aes

They are doing that now, just by letting kids into the mainland and letting them into Ursula.

What he said.

Apparently, you know nothing as far as how the human mind works and develops.

Feel free to comment on developmental matters when you've learned a bit more ....

Ahem: There are people in this world who have experienced FAR more by the age of Eighteen than some can expect to experience their entire lives ...

Feel free to believe what you want to ... I'll continue to live in the real world: You know, where NO ONE matures at the same rate and has the same life experiences.

O.k.

"Solar Legion".

lol, whatever.

No problem, we all know that. Just don't push it as an "ideal" on others.

LOL.

Yea, i was left alone starting at the age of 5. By 7 i was left alone routinely for the weekend. At the age of 9 my mom went to Bolivia and left me alone with weekend check-ups performed by her sister, for 6 months. I have grown up on my own all my life with very little parental involvement.

So yes, i recognize that people are forced to grow up and gain experiences far beyond their years, early on.

You are still wrong. And not being practical, "Solar".

Bye.

Do yourself a favor Briana ....

Drop the piss poor attitude and whatever allusions you're attempting to make ...


for that matter, drop the BS in general.

Frankly, I'd love to see how you'd react to some of the shit that most people - and the vast majority of idiot parents - fail and refuse to see.

I am frankly fed up with the attitude you have shown thus far ... you among many others.

If you have something to say: Say it and be done with it.

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Then again, you have NOTHING to say: Only a foul attitude and the presumption that your view is 100% correct for everyone.

IF you ever grow beyond it ... let me know.

I will cease pushing the moment others cease pushing their own ignorance.

Do you understand at all why people want to give children a childhood? Or do you think a bit of shit makes them stronger.. like you?

Your tough talk is not strong, your post to Briana was malicious, an attempt at belittling her experience. What good did that bring anyone?

Please don't try and tell me it's your right to push this in the name of freedom, it's not.

I was at the recent Metanomics interview where Philip said he would love to see the grids merge, and I immediately requested clarification. What I was told (by another Linden) was that LL was working to change the main grid so that it would be possible to have 'protected' zones so that parents could be inworld with their kids, kids could attend some main grid activities, etc..

So, yes, the recent 'Adult' category would presumably be part of that, as would enforcing SOME sort of verification - but those are not enough. Allowing any traffic between teen and main grids will have to wait until LL invents some way to "protect" at least some PG regions with more stringent enforcement of verification AS WELL AS some way to 'authorize' a given adult avatar as 'teen-safe'. Good luck with that one, LL!

If, on the other hand, LL just opens up the current main grid, I have no idea how LL will deal with the exodus of actual adults to the Adult area, or third party grids, as soon as teens are allowed access to the main grid. The risk of being ARd by some peeved teen for fictional sexual harassment is just too large. LL may point out that an AR for sexual harassment is not the same as a RL accusation; but the penalties in RL are so severe (at least in the US), that a lot of residents won't want to take the chance. Particularly with identity data being collected by the less-than-trustworthy Aristotle.

This makes me think that LL will open up ONLY "protected" regions to teens.Interesting thought, and I agree that there could be some sort of transition. Having trouble thinking of what it would be -- maybe a 3-month grace period where a single avatar could log into both grids (however, no inventory should move from the main grid back ... it gets complex quickly, don't it?)This is true. However, society does not deny the new adult the right to see their teen friends outside of school, and after all, most kids do SL for fun. I see why new adults feel the transition is too abrupt, but changing that might be a lot of development work for little payoff.
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LULZ

QFT!

It might be a disaster but why would that stop them?

this is true. Kids can "ACT" mature. But eventually something comes along to show that all it really was was an act.

Its hard enough expecting adults to be mature. we shouldn't expect it from those too young to have learned it.

Thank You!

You are right! EVERYONE posting in DISAGREEMENT WITH YOU is wrong.

I hate to insult other teen's, but you smell 19 or 20 tops. Bye!

I was banned?

lol, love the name

I still don't understand why LL doesn't just improve the teen grid, and allow them to sell products in their own section on SLX, instead of bringing what doesn't work into what already works, so that potentially NEITHER work.

Couldn't they just bring the teens' families into TG with the teens, instead of subjecting everyone else to overhauls so families in the SAME HOUSE can go ONLINE together?

Seems insane, to me.

sort of

Not banned. "Filtered" is the new banned.

The Grid is no different to the Web other than that one is 3D and the other 2D. Everyone can access the Web, yet there are many places on the Web I am not able to go. Im blocked from accessing any number of urls, more than I can count. For all sorts of reasons, most unknown to me, by the owners of those urls, And many of those I am able to access, have conditions on them.

LL is building the Grid, based on their vision of this. A vision consistent with the vision of those who built the Web. Open access to public places for everyone, while also allowing providers and owners to restrict access as they choose.

Having examined my own motivations and fears about all of this, I have found myself wanting, derelict even. Young people and children on the Grid faze me as much as they do on the Web. Zero. nada. zippo.

And ya, if you underage and burgle your way onto my A parcel on Ursula then I going to kick you out so hard is going to make your teeth rattle. And if you on my PG land on another continent then welcome =) But if you flop out your freenis there and wave it about for all to see, then I going to stuff it down your throat and then kick you out. Other than this, have fun on my pieces of the Grid everyone and enjoy yourselves.