How low will it go?

That's still a LOT of freebie plots, given resident numbers.

There are 128 x 512m2 parcels per sim. Four sims per physical server. They'd need to add hundreds (thousands?) of servers a day just to cope with new sign-ups.

Lets say they did implement it. Servers cost more than peanuts and they don't run on fresh air. Who would pay for the scheme? Landowners, that's who. Their tier charges would increase.

You don't need land to get addicted to prims. You just have to visit a sandbox. I built half a sims worth of buildings over Cordova the other day.

It will be interesting to watch how long LL keeps pumping out the auction sims.

No you have to pay only landfees using credit card ... no more useless landbots and landbarons.

That's a game ... LL control the supply you can make some $ trading land but only talented content creators, virtual banks and LL make real money.

That's my opinion and maybe I am wrong (sorry for bad english)

so youre wanting to rent mainland.
i have mainland for rent. IM me.

I need to sell 10K sqm on an old class 3 mainland server. Sim looks ok, not too messy and only one or two 16sqm ads. I will need to sell within a week ideally. What price per sqm would you advise to shift the land quickly but without giving it away? I was thinking L$7 but suspect i will still have trouble.

Isn't Corsica the continent south of Nautilus? I thought the new continent to the north of Nautilus was had a different name? Or do I need to update my maps?

Corsica is developing north of Nautilus. The one south of Nautilus is the first "new" eastern continent that spurred Black Thursday.

IM your neighbors first. You might find someone on you sim needing more tier. You might get more for it that way too.

If that fails, list it at the same price per meter as the cheapest land per meter on the first page of the list. You will have no problem selling it within one day. But if you can, wait a few weeks and you will make a few more bucks.

I'm seeing more sims being added... lots of water with dots of land... northwest... and by the looks of how some of the protected Linden water lanes run into the "end of the world", I think there are more on the way every day.

L$7.3 per meter on the list for nice new green. A ton of it. No wonder LL did not release more sims to the auction queue today.

I retain my mainland sims and rent my parcel out, but still,

it makes me feel Sick, sick, sick....

No different to having a premium account then. A premium account = 512m2 tier.

We already saw last Christmas that LL couldn't dump enough servers to cope with First Land demand. The situation would be more impossible if 512m2's were suddenly free and no premium account was required (even though they'd have to pay tier, which is the same thing).

If 512m plots were made totally free you'd get more multiple registrations of basic accounts so that people could work their way up to owning large estates for nothing.

The land economy would soon fail completely as people would realise that if they needed an extra 1024m for free, all they need to do is make a couple of unofficial alt accounts.

We al like to get something for nothing but LL needs money to provide and improve SL and so we shouldn't begrudge paying, although maybe it's OK to moan a little when we aren't getting what we paid for!!

What would be quite fun would be for LL or some other organisation to give away free land at random as a prize (not gambling as nobody has paid a stake).

There are still a lot of 4096sqm parcels that are nice going for 7.3 this morning. Every morning it keeps going lower. When will it bottom?

I almost bought one. Roadside too. Then Mr Fassbinder's signs rezzed directly opposite so I gave it a miss.

When there is a significant pause in sim auctions I would guess. As long as there are 50 sims in the que, it will probably head lower. I've checked the auction price and compared it to the land for sale in the same sim--and a lot of land is being sold at a loss.

Yet, they are bought over and over again not for personal use but to be resold into smaller parcels. I know its been said before, but I can't help but think *some* of these land barons are affiliated with LL in some way. I'm talking $50,000 U.S. being spent at a time. Unless Donald Trump has created an av and is buying sims. . .lol

With no new sims to auction yet, prices are probably still that low because search is borked. Probably.

Good thing Caldwell Banker used him to be their SL partner, eh? Someone who really cares about the residents of SL and land values. :rollseyes:

Wow! I didn't know that. Rolly eyes indeed!

Every couple of months I fall into the same old trap of thinking "the mainland can't be that bad". Then I open my eyes again. One thing that struck me about the new sims being carved up and resold is the sheer number of newcomers buying small plots to divide into even smaller 16sq.m ad plots. Either they're starting younger or somebody is registering alts to save face.

I know that there is a general disagreement with me over this point, but I believe that certain nameless tier buyers, that control the vast number of auctions, are shills for LL and are there specifically to make sure that prices of auctions stay high enough to keep LL's cash flow going. It is not just a few sims with new land being sold at a loss...... it is many. These same sim buyers hold so much land in inventory now that their tier has to be over $5,000 per month. I also suspect that no one acting in their own interest could tie up tens of thousands of dollars on credit cards every month when they are acquiring new land far faster than they are selling old land. I find it hard to believe that anyone with tens of thousands of dollars of free cash each month would be investing in virtual real estate where the return is generally break even and probably takes 3 moths to achieve on each new sim.

It would be nice to see no one buying some of these sims that are pouring out like tap water. But I think that the LL agents won't let that happen. In the alternative, why can't these new sims be auctioned off in 1/4 or 1/8 sim plots?

That is the first sane explanation of one avatar's buying habits that I have heard yet.

That doesn't sound legal. Or, at least, it certainly wouldn't be legal for a public company, which LL is not.

Aside from "it makes sense" do you have anything to base this on?

Yeah, something seems to be going on that needs explaining. It was one thing when sim prices + tier *might* have made a small margin in past markets but now so much money is seemingly being spent that it would seem beyond the reach of what even a wealthy individual might spend on something like this but who knows? Maybe there are a few people who cashed out before the old tech crash who have money to burn and are just having a great time. Or, there is some clever strategy that is being employed that I don't understand.

If it's an effort to corner the market, it's just not possible for one guy to do (several have tried). You have seven days to claim your sim, but 40+ sims in five days is whacked out, even if you can spread out the tier somehow. Perhaps the person is going to let go of some of the ones he got at higher prices a few days ago and eat the $100 restocking fee.

As a side note, the real estate mogul with the most pull in SL is buying mainland sims again and paying the highest prices for them over the last few days.

And what if this person is the ALT of another famous land baron ?

(s)he can afford these things.