Can't We Change?

where i am in sl is mine is my sl to make what i want out of it and everyone elses is theirs..
i'm not here to get rich or make it about money..i do enough of that in rl..this is my escape and the less rl the better for me hence the second life..rl is pushy enough..
i don't do schedules in sl at all..i love keeping my time open and free and help my friends when they need it if i can..i'm not crazy about all the changes going on with it already..
i've been in going on two years soon and it seems like ten as much as things have changed..
i just don't see how anyone could think it is sitting in one place and not moving forward..
they've already got virtual headsets in the works if they aren't finished already where you can have an avatar walking around your house from sl..
myself i miss when i first came in like i'm sure a lot do..
but things change and they would get boring if they didn't..i'm not gonna make them change any faster than they are already..i'm still playing catch up on alot of it as it is.. lol

"The same could be said of our "First Life". Why would you expect differently from "Second Life"?"


For many people Second Life is their first life..So what you expect..........I don`t take the forum serious these days........The way people post here its like their very lives depended on the next reply..........I wish i had as much time to waste in my real life as some that have 12 or more post per day.....

As someone before said I am here to enjoy the game not hate everyone and everything......Isnt rl bad enough? Why even be the bring the bad of the rl here as well? People signup for this game to bring the RL problems and issues here? Its been a long time since i started my SL. I never really lost my way to trying to enjoy the game, then again many need this game because its their own real means of communcation withthe outside world..................Hence why people act as they do........

No.

one person's fantasy is another person's nightmare


That is the thing to remember, SL allows for all to have their fantasies (for the most part) made real. To some those fantasies are nightmares, but to ban them is to stifle what makes SL so great for folks.

SL allows many to express themselves in ways they can't in RL. (one reason I want to strangle the 'use voice and prove you're a female' crowd for driving off a friend of mine)

It also allows many to at least virtually relax and let the person inside out, too many of us have to be normal and hide our inner self out of fear or prejudice in RL for how we see ourselves (be it a sexual preference, transgenders, furry, or gorean lifestyles)

Why bring social prejudices here?

Poor effort, Usagi. Please be more patronising in future.

Yes, it's better to spread out your 6015 posts over time. That way you get to maintain that false sense of superiority.

no........................after after 4 years this many? Oh gesh like post count makes people more important ......The best thing this forum can do is remove the total anount posted. This forum board can have the post count not showing.................

There's a lot that's good in SL but I agree we can all think of stuff we don't like. I'm celebate in SL but if people want sex in SL, fair enough as long as it's in line with the terms of service. We do get a bit of an overload of naughtiness, perhaps, which is why I wear clothes in public MOST of the time

But what ruins SL more than ad farms is bad builds left on land by residents who've paid for a year's premium, played about with a few prims and then got bored and left.

In better words litter after by people that nolonger play.....Like many charter members did in the past.....

This is kind of the crux of the question posed by the OP, I think. Well, not so much "who" but "how" because the "who" is pretty much *us*, as the OP describes. LL is really about as hands-off as they can be, except where rules are critical to preserving their bottom-line.

So we're at once subjects and researchers in this little social experiment. It's really not difficult to find wonderful things here, so the question is, presumably, what about the not-so-wonderful? What about where the usual RL social inhibitions break down?

This isn't all bad. If, for example, people want to use SL to explore sexual appetites that are socially (or physically) impossible in RL, I personally have no problem with that. Or, more tame: if they're comfortable with in-world social settings that would make them phobic in RL, perhaps it can even help them get relevant skills for dealing with these RL situations.

But the lack of any means for a community to enforce social pressures at all leads to some really pathological behaviors. Griefing is one, although ARs provide some form of social enforcement. Ad-cutting/land extortion is a better example, where the community's universal disapproval of the culprits' blatant exploit of the Tragedy of the Commons is completely ineffective. In RL, the villager who overgrazes his sheep on the Commons first gets verbal disapproval (we can do that), then the village elders round up his sheep and herd them back to his barn (analogous to blocking and encroaching prims--not allowed in SL), and finally somebody volunteers to gut-stab the greedy SOB and the problem is solved. (If only we had such powers in SL.)

It gets even more complicated when as in RL the majority feel their code or morals and ethics are the right ones.

There is the common belief certain things should not even be explored online or in SL, because they feel it's immoral (the sexual kinks frowned upon in 'polite' society for example) under their beliefs.

Another example is the variety of avatars, many out there feel that anything that deviates from the so called human norm should not be allowed. (be it furry, robotic, abstract, young adult/loli, or child avatars)

And the community has limited tools, but it can use them for better or worse. Some things are forbidden for the community to do in RL and there are limits in SL.

So it's okay to judge how many posts people make per day, but not in total? This quote is the only reason I brought up post counts: because you did.

Have No idea point your trying make........

*blink*

My point is that posting that people are wasting time by posting here is always going to get a few replies because it's an attack and it's hypocritical since you are wasting your own time and adding negativity to a community by posting it.

You need to prove this as a point? Nobody these days cares about post counts? Do they? I sure hope not. Your looking for issues that just don`t exist with me......adding negativity wahts with all this assumption?

Let me ask you have you ever worked as a forum monitor anywhere on the internet? I have and i for one don`t care of such activies as post counts...Anyone that has been a monitor on a websites at are 100,000 members know post counts don`t make anyone better or more expert on issues or subject matters....Over 12 years on the internet, does that make me a expert .......no.but what it does make me expert at is how to tell when people are looking of problems or just pretending to know what they trying to say.......

btw 5,556 SINCE May 2006 ? and you talk about me? Look at yourself
You earned the Mute.( should have does this after the first insult ).

Is there some logical way to reconcile these two quotes? Try as I might, if I narrow the meanings of these to the point they don't contradict each other, I don't think there's any meaning left. Is there?

12 years on the internet makes you an insufferable, holier than thou, blinkered and bitter individual, quite evidently.

If people are trying to read more then there is then well what can I say........

If people need to flame others for their pleasure of doing so then its the post in the forums. What can you do..........

Taking Two points out of context and trying to prove a point?.......Doesnt mean you have a real point of value........

Attacking people for the pleasure of doing so?...............Still can`t understand this action....

...actually, almost nobody (population/percentage-wise) uses the forums, Usagi.



The population of a "metaverse" will shape it, just like the majority demographic of your workplace does.

That's why the community is how it is.

C'est La Vie

But this is precisely what you do. Instead of attacking individuals, you sneeringly tar everyone with the same brush. It must be lonely up there on the lofty peak of your moral high ground.

I mean to write something intelligent on this subject last night, but found that I was too tired to formulate something that wouldn't get picked apart, out of context, line by line as a sort of sport.
Now I'm thinking, what the hell.

Jig has a point. Much of SL is crass, commercial, inane, repetitive, lacking imagination and populated by morons and bipedal lizards in fetish wear that insist on crashing whatever illusion a builder has carefully crafted. No bloody wonder that 'outsiders' think the place is a bit odd!

Fact is, as evidenced by many replies to Jig's post, that people LIKE it that way, for a variety of reasons. Majority rules. The place is shaped by what people want and where the money is. So here goes yet another BDSM pit and yet another bland mall selling poorly made prim skirts.

My beef with all of this is that there ARE many many incredibly well-done, intelligent, amusing, creative sims out there but it takes Sherlock Holmes to find them among all the noise.

If we had a decent search feature and non-commercialized showcase that actually allows people, especially newcomers, to easily find what they're looking for, it would hardly matter WHAT exists on the grid. There's room enough for everyone.

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I can agree to a point on the pornographice aspect. I do think there should be some discretion and taste when displaying adult material in the public or semi public view, but what is the anti intellectual part? Are we to start IQ verifying as well as age verifying everyone? If someone you meet is not of a high enough level for you to give them the honor of conversing with you, move on and find someone else.

YAY Brann!!!!!!

This points to what I said in the other thread, that when SL, it's residents and content are attcked for being sleazy, perverted, crass, whatever, LL does NOTHING to refute it. They don't stand up for the product or it's users. There is a lot of truly remarkable work done here, and it out numbers the shit. The community has done it's part in creating it. The Providers have not done theirs in nurturing, protecting and promoting it.