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Argent Stonecutter
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02-18-2009 09:16
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Yumi Murakami
DoIt!AttachTheEarOfACat!
Join date: 27 Sep 2005
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02-18-2009 09:22
Yea totally. I cannot understand this. But many people just want to come here and instantly look good with little but preferably no effort at all. I can understand having someone else close to you make your shape, but buying off the shelf shapes and using them without modding it is really beyond belief for me. The shape editor is kind of awkward and very counterintuitive for most new users. Also, most shapes are sold cheaply enough that once a user has decided to buy L$, buying a shape isn't that much more of a psychological barrier. |
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Rene Erlanger
Scuderia Shapes & Skins G
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02-18-2009 09:26
That's not entirely Linden's fault. They should have done that sooner, instead of letting the speculators and bots push the land bubble up before that. Yeah, but it caught a lot of small landowners out who wanted to use their land as a home or to build or whatever...they dove in thinking the price would forever continue to rise, so it was best to buy in whatever level they could.....we are talking about 20L /sqm even for 512's. I don't have any sympathy towards speculators.....but i do for the little guy who got caught in the cross fire! |
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Briana Dawson
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02-18-2009 09:41
Yeah, but the person you are referring to as being 8 Months old might be closer the mark than you for all your age'ism. She might be a hell of lot smarter than you....and from where i'm standing, she probably is. Wow you can't help but cut low every time, eh? I think your arguments speak for themselves. _____________________
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Rene Erlanger
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02-18-2009 09:48
Wow you can't help but cut low every time, eh? I think your arguments speak for themselves. I take my Q from you! I know what i'm dealing with here i.e a nasty piece of work I have seen your posting style on several occasions before on this forum and SLUniverse.....so i know what to expect from you! If you think i'm going to put up with any of your boll#x, you're got another thing coming! |
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Briana Dawson
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02-18-2009 09:49
I take my Q from you! I know what i'm dealing with here i.e a nasty piece of work I have seen your posting style on several occasions before on this forum and SLUniverse.....so i know what to expect from you! And it gets even better...Nice way to make it personal! ![]() Thanks! _____________________
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Phil Deakins
Prim Savers = low prims
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02-18-2009 09:57
Heck if I know. Who the hell buys shapes? Guys who don't want to learn how to use the sliders, I guess... the fact that there's even a market for shapes has always boggled my mind. It's the arms length - they are a too short by a long way. I made an animation for normal length arms but I saw a lot of people with hands inside the tummy of the other person instead of you know where. Oddly enough, those avs look ok when standing up, but when I told one or two people to look where their av's hands end and compare it to where their RL hands end when hanging down at the side, they were amazed. The avs were too short by a long way, but they didn't look wrong. An RL person with such short arms would look wrong, but not the avs. So there really is a need for shape-makers who are familiar with general proportions. That doesn't mean that all shape-makers / sellers *are* good with proportions though - I really don't know. _____________________
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Rene Erlanger
Scuderia Shapes & Skins G
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02-18-2009 10:03
We had a thread about that some time ago, in which I voiced that opinion, and I still would to a large extent. The person on the other side argued that most people are not familiar with good proprtions and wouldn't get them reasonably right. I argued against that, but, since then, I've seen one thing that is proportionally wrong with the shapes of a lot of avs. I don't know if they are bought shapes or not, but they are wrong. It's the arms length - they are a too short by a long way. I made an animation for normal length arms but I saw a lot of people with hands inside the tummy of the other person instead of you know where. Oddly enough, those avs look ok when standing up, but when I told one or two people to look where their av's hands end and compare it to where their RL hands end when hanging down at the side, they were amazed. The avs were too short by a long way, but they didn't look wrong. An RL person with such short arms would look wrong, but not the avs. So there really is a need for shape-makers who are familiar with general proportions. That doesn't mean that all shape-makers / sellers *are* good with proportions though - I really don't know. Well spotted Phil....there are many other errors on top of that, but i won't bore you with details. Its not the most exciting of things to create in SL...but despite what people think....to get all the proportions looking right takes some familiarity. It's easier to make a shape look bad then good! |
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
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02-18-2009 10:09
It's the arms length - they are a too short by a long way. I made an animation for normal length arms but I saw a lot of people with hands inside the tummy of the other person instead of you know where. Oddly enough, those avs look ok when standing up, but when I told one or two people to look where their av's hands end and compare it to where their RL hands end when hanging down at the side, they were amazed. The avs were too short by a long way, but they didn't look wrong. An RL person with such short arms would look wrong, but not the avs. _____________________
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Briana Dawson
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02-18-2009 10:43
I take my Q from you! I know what i'm dealing with here i.e a nasty piece of work I have seen your posting style on several occasions before on this forum and SLUniverse.....so i know what to expect from you! If you think i'm going to put up with any of your boll#x, you're got another thing coming! Seems you have a history of telling people they are being rude or "snidey" to you to excuse your own uncouth behavior: /327/5c/279383/47.html#post2139478 /327/5c/279383/39.html#post2138849 LOL. Omg the irony is killing me. Im done... ![]() _____________________
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Rene Erlanger
Scuderia Shapes & Skins G
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02-18-2009 11:45
Seems you have a history of telling people they are being rude or "snidey" to you to excuse your own uncouth behavior: LOL. Omg the irony is killing me. Im done... You really need to get a life. All you can do is search out posts from other threads. If i were to attach URLS of all your offensive posts across both RA and SLUniverse forums it would fill up my screen! Your history is well known! I can leave RA for 3 months, come back....and you'll still be talking smack to another poor victim. Nothing ever changes with you! It's the highlight of your day! |
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Jesse Barnett
500,000 scoville units
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02-18-2009 11:55
Hang on everyone! I just ran out of popcorn, give me 15 minutes to go to the store and come back.
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Briana Dawson
Attach to Mouth
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02-18-2009 11:58
You really need to get a life. All you can do is search out posts from other threads. If i were to attach URLS of all your offensive posts across both RA and SLUniverse forums it would fill up my screen! Your history is well known! Sure sure sure... I have a life it allows me to sit at home and do as i please. Making remarks like "Your history is well known" applied negatively as you have done is just another way people in a losing argument or with no ability to support their position slander and attempt to discredit the person opposing them. But yet, your behavior is easily findable on this forum as is shown in the posts of yours I listed...Not exactly stellar there, Pot. Good on ya, again, mate. ![]() And since you DO love these pics i post: ![]() _____________________
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Rioko Bamaisin
Unstable Princess
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02-18-2009 12:02
Hang on everyone! I just ran out of popcorn, give me 15 minutes to go to the store and come back. Pick me up some more beer, please. _____________________
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Briana Dawson
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02-18-2009 12:03
I can leave RA for 3 months, come back....and you'll still be talking smack to another poor victim. Nothing ever changes with you! It's the highlight of your day! You just keep going and going and editing and adding... Anything else? _____________________
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Rene Erlanger
Scuderia Shapes & Skins G
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02-18-2009 12:03
From your previous form and from all stuff i have seen from you over a length of time reading these forums. I can only recommend just one thing for you...........
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Lindal Kidd
Dances With Noobs
Join date: 26 Jun 2007
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02-18-2009 13:27
I ran across a little shop yesterday that breaks the merchant paradigm big time.
It was a place selling ethnic Tibetan stuff...clothes, jewelry, and a little furniture. Everything in the shop was free, but they did have a donation box prominently displayed. The products were simple, but well made, not junk. I bought a ton of stuff, mostly jewelry, and donated L$400. Since the donation box was last reset, it had collected nearly L$18,000. _____________________
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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02-18-2009 13:44
be·lit·tled, be·lit·tling, be·lit·tles -- To represent or speak of as contemptibly small or unimportant; disparage: a person who belittled our efforts to do the job right. In the process of an In-world conversation with you Rhaorth, you publicly belittled me in front of other people about my general comments. You do not need to complain about your own standards not being fullfilled and stack them up against other peoples success. You cover your bum by saying "sales are low by my standards (but might be considered high by others). You say " just what constitutes great sales?" Do you think we are going to base that great sales red line on your standards and hold it as the dictating marker because you say so in some form of wisdom that shows the shallow nature of your VIP complex. Your head has swollen to the same size as the head on Avatar Island. I knew a Rhaorth at tiny little night club that had humility back in late 06. You have forgotten your like every other resident here in SecondLlife. But you get a little power and misuse it and the votes start coming in. You have my vote, not to mention the others that have expressed themselves to me. I'm not trying to start a war here but, you need to come down from 4096m. I've been here since 2006 also Rhaorth and I have seen your progression. You have these hours posted on Avatar island to help people out but we can barely get you to answer any questions and then you get annoyed when a noobie is just learning the ropes. I have personally seen you push non-english speaking people off Avatar island because they didnt speak your language. I'm also sure you will ban me from Avatar island as you might get mad about my forum post because im giving you a little heat. 8D If you want to do somthing stupid like ban me from avatar island thats fine but it will just go to show other people the truth about your attitude and agenda. I also see you take this same line of thinking here in the forums, as I have included a previous post of yours. 02-13-2009, 05:57 AM #28 Rhaorth Antonelli Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 5,944 the thing that comes to mind, when I see people saying sales are great etc just what constitutes great sales? what might be astounding to one, might be minuscule to another... for me, 500L in sales a day is very low sales ( I use the 500L as a marker, as that was what I needed before to break even on land fees per month, 500L per day in sales) and lately not even getting that sales are low by my standards (but might be considered high by others) Question? How many people are you going to step on in Secondlife before it comes back to bite you in the bum? um where the hell did this all come from??? How the hell did I belittle you by saying my sales are low, but what others consider high, might be my considered low sales. what I consider high, would be low sales for someone else, andI do not consider that being belittled... (I would assume that they have a higher overhead to pay for therefor needing more sales) good lord, no clue where this all came from. (and you knew me from not a club, but when I was manager of a couple of sims, that you would come to) as fro avatar island you are way off base, never have I had issues with a new players, and I answer all the questions I see (I am not always at the keyboard, sometimes RL pulls me away unexpectedly) avatar island is my job, and I treat it like I would any RL job, and I have NEVER pushed someone off of Avatar Island because they do not speak english. keep your false accusations to yourself and do not start spreading rumors about my job. You are messing with my RL income in that case. I am not very pleased with you right now, after the many complaints I have gotten about your attitude and disrespect to women on avatar island, but because I was not there to witness it, I only gave you a warning. now after seeing this unprovoked attack, I am leaning towards believing them (for the record, the conversation that took place about my sales being low, was months ago) and not related to anything here... *I am in shock that you even brought it up here, and the things you said here... well let's just say... the mask has slipped off Cjay* edited to add: as for banning you from Avatar Island, because you decided to be an ass on the forums, nope, I am not like that. you are entitled to your opinion just like everyone else however by posting what you did, you just showed me who you really are, a jerk, who instead of coming to me and saying, hey, what you said really hurt, did you mean it that way? instead you decide to hold it in, wait till just the right time, then..when the whole topic of the thread has moved to something else, you decide NOW is a good time, to try to make Rha look like a egotistical ass... sorry.. it backfired.. people on these forums have already formed an opinion of me, and you coming here and posting your grudge is not going to change those opinions, and if they do change, well, not much I can do You, Cjay, just showed me who you really are, and now I believe all the complaints I got about you from the people (old and new) at avatar island... now I just have to catch you in the act... (which will not be hard I am sure) have a nice day... _____________________
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Yngwie Krogstad
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02-18-2009 13:52
Even loading a current 10 sec sound file can inccur lag before it starts playing. I see that with a number of my gesture files which plays a wav file. just imagine trying to load a file that is 20 times larger. Its not feasable...and i don't think the SL platform could handle it even it wanted to. That's one reason why midi support would be very helpful. Sure it'd eliminate things like voice, as far as I know there is no midi instrument definition for voice, but that would also help with the copyright issues involved in creating full songs that were already pointed out (although of course you could still run afoul of the law when it comes to copyrighted instrumental works). Another advantage of midi: I have some ideas in mind that cannot be accomplished in SL without a guarantee that everybody present is hearing the exact same music at the exact same moment. At this moment that is impossible, whether it's being done with shoutcast streaming or embedding uploaded sound clips. If we could upload midi files, that just might make it possible to have that much control over timing and synchronization with music! So I believe having midi support in SL would really make a positive difference in the arena of dealing with audio. |
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Rene Erlanger
Scuderia Shapes & Skins G
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02-18-2009 13:55
These Forums can get a bit wacky, claims and counter claims! Don't let it upset you Rhaorth
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Yngwie Krogstad
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02-18-2009 14:01
- Gambling Ban - Casino owners take a large hit on the money spent on assets (machines,) not to mention the sale of SIMs as their business models collapses. Blame that one on the US Government. It is illegal to run a server in the United States that hosts gambling operations. Period. Under no circumstances can you do this, even if the casino owner is in a country where online gambling is legal, and so is the person actually doing the gambling, it's still being hosted on a US server. Not legal. Linden Lab will bear the brunt of that fact. So they had to outlaw gambling, and made the right decision in doing so. It was either gambling goes away, or SL goes away. |
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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02-18-2009 14:01
These Forums can get a bit wacky, claims and counter claims! Don't let it upset you Rhaorth hehyep oh the thing that upsets me with these forums, is this damn slowness, and the stupid errors!!! GRRR Not upset... shocked yes. Surprised... not really. I do not let the actions (unexpected or otherwise) surprise me my mom used to say.... if they are picking on you, or saying bad stuff about you, it is because they are jealous... she might have been right (may she rest in peace) _____________________
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Rene Erlanger
Scuderia Shapes & Skins G
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02-18-2009 14:02
That's one reason why midi support would be very helpful. Sure it'd eliminate things like voice, as far as I know there is no midi instrument definition for voice, but that would also help with the copyright issues involved in creating full songs that were already pointed out (although of course you could still run afoul of the law when it comes to copyrighted instrumental works). Another advantage of midi: I have some ideas in mind that cannot be accomplished in SL without a guarantee that everybody present is hearing the exact same music at the exact same moment. At this moment that is impossible, whether it's being done with shoutcast streaming or embedding uploaded sound clips. If we could upload midi files, that just might make it possible to have that much control over timing and synchronization with music! So I believe having midi support in SL would really make a positive difference in the arena of dealing with audio. Ah yes Midi files, i remember them well....they are lot smaller in file size like 50-200 Kb and usually instrumental sounding...correct? |
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Rene Erlanger
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02-18-2009 14:05
Blame that one on the US Government. It is illegal to run a server in the United States that hosts gambling operations. Period. Under no circumstances can you do this, even if the casino owner is in a country where online gambling is legal, and so is the person actually doing the gambling, it's still being hosted on a US server. Not legal. Linden Lab will bear the brunt of that fact. So they had to outlaw gambling, and made the right decision in doing so. It was either gambling goes away, or SL goes away. Yep, I understand why it happened fully....but the net result still meant that some businesses lost a ton of money. Those gambling machines weren't cheap. I beleive that those Poker tables were being sold for 25K each!! Thats before we start assessing losses on land purchases. It's pretty much like VAT too, LL were forced to charge us Europeans, not much we can do about that! Until there are law changes...we just have to accept it |
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
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02-18-2009 14:06
I believe having midi support in SL would really make a positive difference in the arena of dealing with audio. http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-640 Ah yes Midi files, i remember them well....they are lot smaller in file size like 50-200 Kb and usually instrumental sounding...correct? How "instrumental sounding" they are depends on the quality of the samples and sequencer. Most PC sound cards have very limited samples and poor MIDI support, but sequencing MIDI in software is fast and low overhead... for example Apple's quicktime sequencer and samples are top notch. _____________________
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