I never actually saw Brenda say that.
Its possible she was misquoted.
Its possible she was misquoted.
I'm thinking so.

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Sunni Jewell
Who said so?
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11-27-2007 12:51
I never actually saw Brenda say that. Its possible she was misquoted. I'm thinking so. ![]() _____________________
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Derbor Torok
Lost soul
Join date: 21 Jun 2007
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11-27-2007 13:00
I never actually saw Brenda say that. Its possible she was misquoted. What i heard was "Squeeze me, sexy..." but then I am the eternal optimist.. ![]() .d |
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SqueezeOne Pow
World Changer
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11-27-2007 13:34
I never actually saw Brenda say that. Its possible she was misquoted. I paraphrazed. _____________________
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Charlene Trudeau
SkyBeam Architect
Join date: 23 Aug 2005
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11-27-2007 15:09
a) do you use it? I launch it only as needed as the extra process seems to effect my overall system performance (with everything else I run alongside sl) B) Is voice a blessing or a curse and why? Mixed emotions. C) Do you actually talk on it or just listen? If I have needed to launch it, I've needed to speak too. I don't have any gender issues. D) does it bother you why others dont talk with it? Nope. Quite happy to leave it off and in and around my estates folks seem to recognize that its rude to be in voice and not include me in the conversation and switch to text, though if I realize they are in voice, I'll enable it and join them instead. Char _____________________
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Tegg Bode
FrootLoop Roo Overlord
Join date: 12 Jan 2007
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11-27-2007 23:56
a) do you use it? Sometimes
B) Is voice a blessing or a curse and why? Both, great for leatures, bad for RP and splittinga group into voicers and nonvoicers. C) Do you actually talk on it or just listen?Both D) does it bother you why others dont talk with it? E) (Off topic) Whats the most distubing thing youve seen in a movie? Saw4 _____________________
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Jopsy Pendragon
Perpetual Outsider
Join date: 15 Jan 2004
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11-28-2007 00:41
a) do you use it? (I do) B) Is voice a blessing or a curse and why? C) Do you actually talk on it or just listen? D) does it bother you why others dont talk with it? E) (Off topic) Whats the most distubing thing youve seen in a movie? (For me its Big Mommas House 2, when he is in suit and wearing a cheedleading uniform, I wish I didnt catch that just now) Rarely use it, and only when all present are using it. Not a curse, I can ignore it easily enough. [added in edit:] Talk? Listen? I prefer loud music. ![]() no, I'm more bothered by people using it without headsets. pass _____________________
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Shirley Marquez
Ethical SLut
Join date: 28 Oct 2005
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11-28-2007 13:56
a. I rarely use it. But I'm a CSI:NY greeter, and I have it on all the time when I'm there in case one of the new residents wants to talk to me.
b. Not enough people use it for it to be either for me. If there were a lot of people who insisted on using it and wouldn't pay attention to somebody who won't talk, it would be a curse. c. Mostly I listen and reply in text. A lot of the time, I'm using SL in situations where talking would be inappropriate, such as a shared computer lab at my university. d. No. e. Brainstorm. The whole idea of intentional flirting with suicide squicked me big time. I sat in the car for 15 minutes after seeing it; it took that long to calm down enough to be able to drive safely. |
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Elessar Bikcin
from Gondor
Join date: 5 Sep 2007
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11-28-2007 22:54
Everyone is going to approach SL based upon their needs and experiences. Some will be more comfortable using parts of it than others, some may need to use features, some will not want to use them, for whatever reason. I'm not "suspicious" of any of these reasons, nor do I even "wonder" why. I don't think about it at all. I deal with the avatars at face value in world, that's it. Not everyone is a cutting edge technology user, not everyone has an extensive background in On Line worlds, Chat Rooms, gaming whatever. Some are just plain old folks like me. We will all choose the level of immersion that we are comfortable with, and we only need justify or explain it to ourselves. That is probably the best summation I have seen, Brenda. My answer: ...No I do not use it. I have no desire to use it and those that wish to are free to make up their own minds as to the usefulness. ...As to the observation that those who choose not to use "Voice" might be hiding something? Well, if someone feels I am hiding something - don't be bashful - just ask me. But you might have to be prepared to extract teeth from your hindquarters if you ask in the wrong manner. _____________________
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Maggie McArdle
FIOS hates puppies
Join date: 8 May 2006
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11-28-2007 23:56
Well, there are a number of people who are not what they want you to think they are. I have met a number of them. Some have become friends, some have confided who they really were, and that did not change our friendship. I was not pointing a finger at you, or anyone in particular. If you feel otherwise, there might just be a reason, any reason. I think that there is a difference between "wondering" and being suspicious. Don't put words into my mouth, thank you. then change your original post then. you cannot have it both ways, if one chooses not to use voice, they should be able to w/o the "wondering". as for puttin words in your mouth, they were already there, i just pointed out the hypocrisy of your statement. _____________________
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Monalisa Robbiani
Registered User
Join date: 9 Jul 2007
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11-29-2007 00:58
Those who refuse to use it, kinda makes me wonder what they're hiding. [...] The only time I prefer text, is when helping people who do not speak any of the languages I speak fluently. If I don't use voice you are wondering what I am hiding. If I did use voice you would probably tell me "oh please, let`s use text, your accent is horrible". |
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Imogen Saltair
Registered User
Join date: 29 Nov 2006
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11-29-2007 01:23
I use voice with my Partner in SL, it just makes our conversations easier and nicer. I dont switch it off when I am out in public but I very rarely hear anyone using it in the places I go, so its not a bother. I am always aware though, that some people present might not have voice and not to exclude them from conversations. I would hate that myself.
IF I don't want to talk to someone with voice in world, its not because I'm hiding anything, its because I don't want to talk to them. End of story. Most Disturbing Movie moments? Nearly all of the movie 'Seven' which was so dark, it depressed me. It was the only movie I ever stopped my young teenage boys watching when it came on TV. The rape scene in 'The Accused' imogen _____________________
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Cherry Czervik
Came To Her Senses
Join date: 18 Feb 2006
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11-29-2007 01:28
then change your original post then. you cannot have it both ways, if one chooses not to use voice, they should be able to w/o the "wondering". as for puttin words in your mouth, they were already there, i just pointed out the hypocrisy of your statement. Why does this subject cause such bitterness ... I've just spent the last hour crying with laughter in voice, with a bunch of people who were really really funny and entertaining. I actually wasn't speaking, cos I keep coughing. No one wondered what gender I was or anything else. Freedom of speech tho Maggie. If someone told me to change a post I had made, I'd tell them to cram it ![]() |
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Jopsy Pendragon
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11-29-2007 10:50
then change your original post then. you cannot have it both ways, if one chooses not to use voice, they should be able to w/o the "wondering". as for puttin words in your mouth, they were already there, i just pointed out the hypocrisy of your statement. There is nothing wrong with 'wondering'. People can 'wonder' or be 'curious' without suspiciously disrespecting someone else's desire for privacy. The only reason this is a problem is because role-playing doesn't mix well with people who are just being themselves online, and voice chat risks outing role-players. Fortunately they have enough reasons to not use voice chat already that refusing to use it shouldn't "raise suspicions", unless, of course, someone is role-playing so badly as to have already given someone cause to doubt. -- Joe: "But why didn't you tell me you were just role-playing?" Sally: "Tsk, that would have been be SO out of character, honey." |
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Colette Meiji
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11-29-2007 10:58
Why does this subject cause such bitterness ... I think it is because very few on either side are willing to try to understand the opposing point of view. And that they think their anecdotal evidence matters more than other people's anecdotal evidence. |
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Cherry Czervik
Came To Her Senses
Join date: 18 Feb 2006
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11-29-2007 12:11
I think it is because very few on either side are willing to try to understand the opposing point of view. And that they think their anecdotal evidence matters more than other people's anecdotal evidence. I think people should lighten up and have some flipping fun for a change. |
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Cherry Czervik
Came To Her Senses
Join date: 18 Feb 2006
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11-29-2007 12:13
Fortunately they have enough reasons to not use voice chat already that refusing to use it shouldn't "raise suspicions", unless, of course, someone is role-playing so badly as to have already given someone cause to doubt. -- Joe: "But why didn't you tell me you were just role-playing?" Sally: "Tsk, that would have been be SO out of character, honey." QFT! It doesn't occur to me to question people's gender until they start acting in ways which are inconsistent with what they are saying/doing. Then again, I don't care what people are unless I am very very involved with them. |
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Jopsy Pendragon
Perpetual Outsider
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11-29-2007 13:29
QFT! It doesn't occur to me to question people's gender until they start acting in ways which are inconsistent with what they are saying/doing. Then again, I don't care what people are unless I am very very involved with them. Likewise, I pretty much think of most people as 'its' unless for some reason there's some sort of 'chemistry' going on. Amusingly enough, I get mistaken for 'female' disturbingly often, however I haven't had to resort to voice to prove otherwise. Yet. ![]() |
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Maggie McArdle
FIOS hates puppies
Join date: 8 May 2006
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11-30-2007 05:22
Why does this subject cause such bitterness ... I've just spent the last hour crying with laughter in voice, with a bunch of people who were really really funny and entertaining. I actually wasn't speaking, cos I keep coughing. No one wondered what gender I was or anything else. Freedom of speech tho Maggie. If someone told me to change a post I had made, I'd tell them to cram it ![]() was not bitter, we do tend to forget that we cannot convey"emotions" in text. matter of fact i do dj and use my voice(horrid as it sounds to me;P) and i also do a weekly show where i talk. i was just fed up with those who say one thing yet mean another. to me voice is an option. )which, btw i did swallow my pride and words, and had to use today as skype kept crashin on me and the hubby today.) no one should be "wondering" or suspicious about anyone who opts not to use voice. unless you are paying their tier/yearly/monthly/fees, its none of anyones buisness who does what in sl(barring obvious things of course). yes freedom of speech is a wonderful thing. however so is freedom of choice. we both can excercise our rights of expression as we see fit. _____________________
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bilbo99 Emu
Garrett's No.1 fan
Join date: 27 Oct 2006
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11-30-2007 05:29
I think people should lighten up and have some flipping fun for a change. ![]() _____________________
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Casandra Kumsung
Registered User
Join date: 6 Sep 2006
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I keep RL and SL separate
12-07-2007 17:08
That is why I am in SL to escape RL. So I will never use voice and do not talk about my RL.
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Monalisa Robbiani
Registered User
Join date: 9 Jul 2007
Posts: 861
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12-08-2007 02:16
It *is* possible to have fun with voice without compromising privacy and keeping your RL to yourself. Use a voicechanger. I got myself one of those and they are great. They mask your voice, and even your accent is less prominent. It's fun to choose a voice that fits your character. I sound cartoonish and extremely cute now and I like it! (I don't know if you can change your gender in a believable way though.) I rarely use voice, but when I do, I do it only with my changer.
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Damanios Thetan
looking in
Join date: 6 Mar 2004
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12-08-2007 02:55
a) do you use it?
Sometimes. B) Is voice a blessing or a curse and why? Mixed: 1. Good: Voice keeps my hands free, to do other stuff (build etc.) But: 2. Bad: chat allows me to multitask easier, when running a chat, and 5 im windows, switch between multiple apps, and do other stuff i can use history etc. Chat allows me some 'breathing room', where voice often requires a much more direct response and more concentration on what's being said. 3. Bad: I'm not a native english speaker. Although i'm pretty versed in both speaking and writing english. It is often the case that a native english conversation in voice (esp. with multiple people, bad connections, soft voices, multiple accents etc.) is harder for me to follow than a chat, native speakers need much less 'data' to distill what's been said than non-native speakers. (It's a biological thing, even years of experience won't fix it). Also because of the directness of voice, I can't 'rethink' or 'rephrase' stuff in voice, which i can in chat. C) Do you actually talk on it or just listen? Both, depending on the situation at hand. D) does it bother you why others dont talk with it? Not at all. E) (Off topic) Whats the most distubing thing youve seen in a movie? Faked play on emotion doesn't disturb me anymore nowadays (I've seen too many movies), so going back to an oldie: The end of 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers' (1978 remake), the final 'scream' of Donald Sutherland... _____________________
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Vaelissa Cortes
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Join date: 26 Apr 2007
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12-08-2007 04:35
a) do you use it?
Very rarely, and I'm only a listener if I choose to enable it. B) Is voice a blessing or a curse and why? Neither, it's an just an option. C) Do you actually talk on it or just listen? See above. D) does it bother you why others dont talk with it? No. I don't much care for voice, but I'm not against it. Personally, I like it to be either quiet or listen to my own music. I don't want to hear people talk because, simply put, people chattering away annoys me. I don't care who they are. I don't like having to ask "what?" every 30 seconds because I didn't understand what somebody said for whatever reason, nor do I like feeling like I have to be at the keyboard constantly just so I can keep up with the conversation. I also don't like talking much to begin with, not even on the phone, I've always been a rather quiet person. This may sound weird but it's easier to just type! With text I can take in conversations at my own pace, even if I go away for a moment (which I often do) or am busy building and don't want to give much attention to chatter. Voice can be nifty every great once in a while, but I've used text to communicate online for years, I'm used to that and that's what I'm sticking to. |
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Conan Godwin
In ur base kilin ur d00ds
Join date: 2 Aug 2006
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12-08-2007 05:19
I thought we had finished whining about voice months ago.
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Sally Silvera
live music maniac
Join date: 17 Feb 2007
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12-08-2007 06:38
I thought we had finished whining about voice months ago. But this quick survey is only 99 posts and two weeks old _____________________
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