Does anyone seriously like those red ban lines ?
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Har Fairweather
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11-08-2007 10:50
From: Okiphia Rayna .
Really? I use a flight feather, always.. and if I go into no fly land, I can't fly, no matter what... even if I ave two flight assists it doesnt work (That usually makes me float upward slowly)... how does this make the above method useless? If you are flying or hovering when you enter/tp a no-fly zone, you can continue to fly until you touch down. The No-fly option appears to merely prevent taking off, not flying around per se.
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Okiphia Rayna
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11-08-2007 10:51
From: Har Fairweather If you are flying or hovering when you enter/tp a no-fly zone, you can continue to fly until you touch down. The No-fly option appears to merely prevent taking off, not flying around per se. ah okies thanks
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11-08-2007 11:09
Never Mind.
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Okiphia Rayna
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11-08-2007 11:14
Nevermind as well... was about the edited post 
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11-08-2007 11:20
From: Steve Mahfouz If so, speak up now or forever hold your peace ! /joking off.
Seriously, why doesn't LL just get rid of the Ban function and force everyone to buy a security system ? I have never heard anyone defend the red ban lines. I know this would force a minor financial hardship upon people but it would eliminate that nuisance at least. Why should I buy a laggy security system? The red ban lines suck, that I agree, but the option should not be taken away. What should be done is there are no lines shown but an invisible barrier to those who cannot enter.
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11-08-2007 11:21
From: ZsuZsanna Raven Why should I buy a laggy security system? The red ban lines suck, that I agree, but the option should not be taken away. What should be done is there are no lines shown but an invisible barrier to those who cannot enter. people would complain even more most likely.. so make it an option for invisible or not 
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Walker Moore
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11-08-2007 11:24
From: Okiphia Rayna Hmm dunno... now I wanna test this but won't be home for a whiele =( and.. if you're banning by name, I'd say they deserve it competely honestly... banning in general is just the 50m True. If somebody has been banned by name, that changes things a bit. Perhaps it would be more helpful if banlines and guest access lines were a different colour so we differentiated between the two. It's Guest Access lines being invisible from the inside that I have more of a problem with. From: Okiphia Rayna I've only once encountered this, with my old neighbour (Whose land is now mostly mine since they left...). I told them, and then walked them through the fix.. its that simple. Just be courteous and talk to them about it if they are your neighbour. Bear in mind that not everybody is so understanding. From: Okiphia Rayna Really? I use a flight feather, always.. and if I go into no fly land, I can't fly, no matter what... even if I ave two flight assists it doesnt work (That usually makes me float upward slowly)... how does this make the above method useless?
You must be flying before you enter the parcel (while wearing a flight feather), which isn't usually a problem on a mainland sim because few people disable flight.
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Walker Moore
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11-08-2007 11:26
From: Trout Recreant Who needs to go over walls in RL when you have a shovel and can go under them, then pop out of a stump, Hogan's Heroes style. OMG. I hate how you people are trying to circumvent my RL banlines. I'm going to call a netcop. 
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Okiphia Rayna
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11-08-2007 11:27
From: Walker Moore True. If somebody has been banned by name, that changes things a bit. Perhaps it would be more helpful if banlines and guest access lines were a different colour so we differentiated between the two. If you can buy a pass, they are green, otherwise you just can't get in... passes can be set for cheap to be nice I suppose... From: someone It's Guest Access lines being invisible from the inside that I have more of a problem with.
Why? If they have them they *should* know they put them up, if only from people never coming by. People usually also invite someone over at some point, so they'd find out then. From: someone Bear in mind that not everybody is so understanding. They should be.. and most that I've found are honestly, and I live on mainland 'hell'.. never had any problems near my home. From: someone You must be flying before you enter the parcel (while wearing a flight feather), which isn't usually a problem on a mainland sim because few people disable flight.
okie pokies
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11-08-2007 11:28
From: Okiphia Rayna Nevermind as well... was about the edited post  I'm in suspenders now!
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11-08-2007 11:30
From: Walker Moore I'm in suspenders now! o.o Oh, and im heading out now, so.. as I usually say in these cases, if you wanna say something specifically to me (Anyone), send me a PM.. I wont be checking this thread until around 2:30 or 3 SLT Have fun ^^
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11-08-2007 11:33
From: Trout Recreant I just had an idea. Is there any way to get the texture for banlines? I know it isn't really a texture, but if you could get it with the alphas and all, you could make a cylinder prim the size of your avatar in about 10 seconds, texture it with ban lines, then wear it. It would look like you have personal ban lines. A friend of mine made something like this. His is a square, though, rather than a cylinder. I laughed so hard the first time I saw it....
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Trout Recreant
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11-08-2007 11:38
From: Nic Writer A friend of mine made something like this. His is a square, though, rather than a cylinder. I laughed so hard the first time I saw it.... A square would work, too. I figured a cylinder would be easier for the texture, but the concept is the same. This would have made a great halloween costume. You could be naked underneath and go around screaming at people to stop camming into your personal space.
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Okiphia Rayna
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11-08-2007 11:39
From: Trout Recreant A square would work, too. I figured a cylinder would be easier for the texture, but the concept is the same. This would have made a great halloween costume.
You could be naked underneath and go around screaming at people to stop camming into your personal space. "I kept getting bots popping onto my chest, so I figured this was the last resort..."
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Walker Moore
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11-08-2007 11:47
From: Okiphia Rayna Why? If they have them they *should* know they put them up, if only from people never coming by. People usually also invite someone over at some point, so they'd find out then. People usually enable Guest Access on a group basis, and their friends (ie. their regular visitors) are usually in that group. Anyway, the reason I'd like to have them visible on the inside is so they have to look at what everybody else in the sim has to look at. From: Okiphia Rayna They should be.. and most that I've found are honestly, and I live on mainland 'hell'.. never had any problems near my home. I've had countless mainland parcels over the past 16 months and I have another one now. Two of my neighbours enabled ban lines at one point recently and one of them (a foreign guy) was completely oblivious that he'd done so. Besides, neighbours vary from sim to sim. Just because everybody nearby is friendly right now, doesn't mean all neighbours will be like that. If somebody enables banlines just to piss you off (and people really do make it their life purpose to upset other people by doing such things), maybe they'd be more reluctant do so if they had to look at them too.
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Darien Caldwell
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11-08-2007 12:27
I think banlines as an idea is fine, I think LL's implementation is way off the mark. I think people would be much less annoyed if they simply blocked your way, but instead they literally throw you for a loop and cause you stop dead in your tracks. And they are ugly. After so many years of people complaining, I really don't know why they don't just fix them to be more socially friendly.
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11-08-2007 12:41
From: Walker Moore I did this once, and it caused another neighbouring land owner to enable their banlines. Then I said, "look guys," and we had a meeting. I've owned land elsewhere in the past where the situation wasn't so easy to fix. In one case, an adjoining 4096 owned by a charter member had ban lines enabled and he hadn't logged in for over a year. Served me right for buying next-door, but I didn't appreciate things like that when I first bought the parcel.  see and i have had teh opposite everybody who has actually noticed and contacted me said they didn't know that the ban was even on and they turned um off and then I removed them from my ban list and without exception we have been good neighbors since, i am not anti social, in fact my land is very public, i have a gallery on it but i also am top of a hillside with a wonderful view of a lake and so ban lines for no reason that inturrupt my view sorta erk me, let face it, when you have a 100% surrounded 512 parcel they do nothing for your privacy if I wanna seen in I can...as for sky boxes etc, they do not reach high enough to matter. as i said before, in my experience it is mostly new land owners who don't understand what they do, as for the right to have um, damn straight they do, it just doesn;'t always make for being good neighbors
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11-08-2007 12:45
Oh, no, not another ban line thread.
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FlipperPA Peregrine
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11-08-2007 13:09
I really despise the global ban feature on the mainland. It kind of defeats the purpose of a main land.
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11-08-2007 13:10
From: stpaulsub Clio see and i have had teh opposite everybody who has actually noticed and contacted me said they didn't know that the ban was even on and they turned um off and then I removed them from my ban list and without exception we have been good neighbors since, i am not anti social, in fact my land is very public, i have a gallery on it but i also am top of a hillside with a wonderful view of a lake and so ban lines for no reason that inturrupt my view sorta erk me, let face it, when you have a 100% surrounded 512 parcel they do nothing for your privacy if I wanna seen in I can...as for sky boxes etc, they do not reach high enough to matter. as i said before, in my experience it is mostly new land owners who don't understand what they do, as for the right to have um, damn straight they do, it just doesn;'t always make for being good neighbors I hope it didn't sound like I was caling you anti-social.  and I so want your land when you sell up. 
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Meade Paravane
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11-08-2007 13:30
From: FlipperPA Peregrine I really despise the global ban feature on the mainland. It kind of defeats the purpose of a main land. Other people, in other threads, argue _rabidly_ that mainland is private - people should not be allowed to leave their own land or visit anywhere else that is not declared to be public land. They don't argue it successfully though, and most people just ignore them.
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Okiphia Rayna
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11-08-2007 14:47
From: Meade Paravane Other people, in other threads, argue _rabidly_ that mainland is private - people should not be allowed to leave their own land or visit anywhere else that is not declared to be public land.
They don't argue it successfully though, and most people just ignore them. My argument is similar but completely different... Mainland is not meant as public land, it is the land you can buy while having a premium account... and only premium accounts... so basically its actually more private wouldn't you think? You're paying an EXTRA fee to beb able to live specifically there.. the only reason there are more adfarms than islands is because it isnt moderated like it shuld be in my opinion... but oh well. If you own land on mainland, you own private land. End of story. Just because its mainland doesnt mean anyone should be able to walk onto it... you're saying its public why exactly? Because LL originally owned it and takes it when noone else owns it (Essentially)? If you own ANY land, it is your private land. Mainland especially since you pay even more, and since there is no 'sim owner' who is going to run off with your money and land (The worst case scenario of course). the only way you're going to have mainland taken away is if you piss off LL or don't pay them or w/e.... Get over the fact you can't go into peoples houses and look at their stuff at a closer distance than 50m.. if they have banlines.. they don't want you to! It is THEIR choice! 'But Okiphia, I'm missing some wonderful builds!' A: too bad. They aren't yours, you have no right to even be near them. If you want to see something closer and there are banlines up, ask the owner. It is their decision. 'But my blimp....' A  top there. Not your land. No rights. End of argument. there ya go.. thats my stance ^^ And I know.. some of that might be able to be considered to make peple mad at me.. no.. I'm trying to explain how I see things.. if I'm a bit rude its because well... in this case I feel I have to be blunt to get it across. Some people build walls around the whole land. (My Mistress does this) and even limits who can pass through certain doors (I need to get that script lol)..... would you rather be able to see the builds from a distance, maybe through some red text, or not at all? Your choice on which you think is better.. Im saying the text Have a nice day ^^
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11-08-2007 14:53
From: Steve Mahfouz If so, speak up now or forever hold your peace ! /joking off.
Seriously, why doesn't LL just get rid of the Ban function and force everyone to buy a security system ? I have never heard anyone defend the red ban lines. I know this would force a minor financial hardship upon people but it would eliminate that nuisance at least. I have defended them often even though I don't use them as much as I do. I don't understand why someone would sell property with banlines. They are very fun to bounce on and try to climb over. They give the illusion of privacy and protection. It fun picking up smash airplane peices of those trying to go by. If you can figure out how to extend your banlines to 750m or more its fun to watch in your sky lab avatars smashing their faces into the ban lines like squashed birds.
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11-08-2007 15:45
I joined SL in November, 2003.
I didn't even realize this feature existed until I ran into my first globally banned parcel, probably in about March of 2004. I was shocked, to be honest! Back then, there was only a mainland (save for Avalon and Cayman). Now, it seems you can't go more than a sim without running into those hideous ban lines. Is the illusion of privacy really that important? Considering anyone can just run the camera inside, and you do all kind of things from the periphery? I think most griefers would look at the ban lines as a challenge; if you use them you're probably unintentionally making yourself a bigger target. Hiding is best when done in plain sight.
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11-08-2007 16:10
didn't we just have this conversation? 
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