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Oryx Tempel

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02-19-2008 17:37

From: Colette Meiji

Chris isn't anti-social

He is anti-socialism

bit of a difference LOL

Colette, I read that as "Christ isn't anti-social"... LOL

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Marianne McCann

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02-19-2008 19:25

From: Lias Leandros

Again, Blue Linden indicated that these new builds will be used to direct new players to their first mainland experience to set home in (yes, just like a infohub). Most of the loiterers tell me Linden Lab sent them there 3 months ago to set home so there they stay. So what do you think will become of these new Folly Builds within a year? The exact same thing as infohubs: unsupervised overcrowding, greifing and illegally recruiting new players..

My suspicion is that they, again, will end up more like, oh, Mohrr island.

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Chris Norse

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02-19-2008 19:31

From: Oryx Tempel

Colette, I read that as "Christ isn't anti-social"... LOL

Aww Oryx, I am good, but I am not perfect.

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Tegg Bode

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02-20-2008 00:18

From: Lias Leandros

Yes, we know what LL does not say. So until LL writes a tome larger than the Bible full of rules we just have to continue adding to them so the local sociopaths can understand they are harming others with their actions.
Again, your not not basing your statements on FACTS. Some that abuse the InfoHub resources have taken that class.

Well sorry I was using the FACTS you provided me in this statement.

From: Lias Leandros

I don't know what 'win back their patronage' means. Since none of the people that abuse the sim resources are patrons.

So which is it?
And referering to people who enjoy other peoples company as sociopaths? Sounds pretty anti-social to me.
All the people who gather in clubs must be sociopaths too........................

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Broccoli Curry

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02-20-2008 01:17

From: Lias Leandros

The exact same thing as infohubs: unsupervised overcrowding, greifing and illegally recruiting new players.

Bit confused there about "illegally recruiting new players" ... what's "illegal" about recruiting, and recruiting to what?

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Dekka Raymaker

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02-20-2008 02:24

From: Broccoli Curry

Bit confused there about "illegally recruiting new players" ... what's "illegal" about recruiting, and recruiting to what?

manipulating new players is probably what's inferred, I guess they're thinking about increasing groups and picks for gaming?

I've been on on-line communities for a while now and the one overbearing fact I have observed in all those communities is that everyone has an agenda and there is imo two ways to deal with this 1. never trust anyone or 2. give everyone enough rope to hang themselves

Ingrid Ingersoll

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02-20-2008 06:54

From: Lias Leandros

They greet new people arriving to the Infohub, offer them membership to their infohub 'friend' group and hang out enjoying each other's company. And when this group's numbers grow to 50 or 100 and a large percentage of the members come to see their friends in their favorite hang-out - what are the tier paying residents in the sim suppose to do? Wait in the adjoining sim and feel the love?

I've never been not able to get into a sim because of an infohub. Maybe your experience has been different.

I would would think twice about buying land in a sim with an infohub on it. But I'd also be looking around to see if there were any clubs around too, or a neighbour with a few really laggy scripts etc. The mainland is never going to be a lagless, pristine place. Which is why places like azure islands are so popular if you want a quiet place. The flipside though, is that those places are often completely empty and boring.

Lias Leandros

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02-20-2008 08:45

From: Ingrid Ingersoll

I would would think twice about buying land in a sim with an infohub on it.

I just do not agree that Linden Lab can place these unsupervised loitering areas anywhere they like and then the tier-paying customers must adjust or move. When these new Folly Builds start popping up all over the mainland - many parcel owners will have negative experiences because the Linden lack of supervison.

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Broccoli Curry

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02-20-2008 08:52

From: Lias Leandros

When these new Folly Builds start popping up all over the mainland - many parcel owners will have negative experiences because the Linden lack of supervison.

... or maybe not. You just can't say for sure a blanket statement based on the opinions of one forum poster.

From: someone

I just do not agree that Linden Lab can place these unsupervised loitering areas anywhere they like

Why can't they? They can do whatever they like at any time they like for any or no reason. The TOS we all agreed to says so.

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Colette Meiji

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02-20-2008 08:58

From: Broccoli Curry

... or maybe not. You just can't say for sure a blanket statement based on the opinions of one forum poster.

Why can't they? They can do whatever they like at any time they like for any or no reason. The TOS we all agreed to says so.

Well she has a point.

If you live in a nice quiet Sima nd suddenly a popular public works build goes up and its always crowded , right next to your house ...

It would be annoying.

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Oryx Tempel Registered User Join date: 8 Nov 2006 Posts: 7,663	02-19-2008 17:37 From: Colette Meiji Chris isn't anti-social He is anti-socialism bit of a difference LOL Colette, I read that as "Christ isn't anti-social"... LOL _____________________
Marianne McCann Feted Inner Child Join date: 23 Feb 2006 Posts: 7,145	02-19-2008 19:25 From: Lias Leandros Again, Blue Linden indicated that these new builds will be used to direct new players to their first mainland experience to set home in (yes, just like a infohub). Most of the loiterers tell me Linden Lab sent them there 3 months ago to set home so there they stay. So what do you think will become of these new Folly Builds within a year? The exact same thing as infohubs: unsupervised overcrowding, greifing and illegally recruiting new players.. My suspicion is that they, again, will end up more like, oh, Mohrr island. Mari _____________________ "There's nothing objectionable nor illegal in having a child-like avatar in itself and we must assume innocence until proof of the contrary." - Lewis PR Linden "If you find children offensive, you're gonna have trouble in this world " - Prospero Linden
Chris Norse Loud Arrogant Redneck Join date: 1 Oct 2006 Posts: 5,735	02-19-2008 19:31 From: Oryx Tempel Colette, I read that as "Christ isn't anti-social"... LOL Aww Oryx, I am good, but I am not perfect. _____________________ I'm going to pick a fight William Wallace, Braveheart “Rules are mostly made to be broken and are too often for the lazy to hide behind” Douglas MacArthur FULL
Tegg Bode FrootLoop Roo Overlord Join date: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 5,707	02-20-2008 00:18 From: Lias Leandros Yes, we know what LL does not say. So until LL writes a tome larger than the Bible full of rules we just have to continue adding to them so the local sociopaths can understand they are harming others with their actions. Again, your not not basing your statements on FACTS. Some that abuse the InfoHub resources have taken that class. Well sorry I was using the FACTS you provided me in this statement. From: Lias Leandros I don't know what 'win back their patronage' means. Since none of the people that abuse the sim resources are patrons. So which is it? And referering to people who enjoy other peoples company as sociopaths? Sounds pretty anti-social to me. All the people who gather in clubs must be sociopaths too........................ _____________________ Level 38 Builder [Roo Clan] Free Waterside & Roadside Vehicle Rez Platform, Desire (88, 17, 107) Avatars & Roadside Seaview shops and vendorspace for rent, $2.00/prim/week, Desire (175,48,107)
Broccoli Curry I am my alt's alt's alt. Join date: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 1,660	02-20-2008 01:17 From: Lias Leandros The exact same thing as infohubs: unsupervised overcrowding, greifing and illegally recruiting new players. Bit confused there about "illegally recruiting new players" ... what's "illegal" about recruiting, and recruiting to what? _____________________ ~ This space has been abandoned as I can no longer afford it.
Dekka Raymaker thinking very hard Join date: 4 Feb 2007 Posts: 3,898	02-20-2008 02:24 From: Broccoli Curry Bit confused there about "illegally recruiting new players" ... what's "illegal" about recruiting, and recruiting to what? manipulating new players is probably what's inferred, I guess they're thinking about increasing groups and picks for gaming? I've been on on-line communities for a while now and the one overbearing fact I have observed in all those communities is that everyone has an agenda and there is imo two ways to deal with this 1. never trust anyone or 2. give everyone enough rope to hang themselves
Ingrid Ingersoll Archived Join date: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 4,601	02-20-2008 06:54 From: Lias Leandros They greet new people arriving to the Infohub, offer them membership to their infohub 'friend' group and hang out enjoying each other's company. And when this group's numbers grow to 50 or 100 and a large percentage of the members come to see their friends in their favorite hang-out - what are the tier paying residents in the sim suppose to do? Wait in the adjoining sim and feel the love? I've never been not able to get into a sim because of an infohub. Maybe your experience has been different. I would would think twice about buying land in a sim with an infohub on it. But I'd also be looking around to see if there were any clubs around too, or a neighbour with a few really laggy scripts etc. The mainland is never going to be a lagless, pristine place. Which is why places like azure islands are so popular if you want a quiet place. The flipside though, is that those places are often completely empty and boring.
Lias Leandros mainlander Join date: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 3,458	02-20-2008 08:45 From: Ingrid Ingersoll I would would think twice about buying land in a sim with an infohub on it. I just do not agree that Linden Lab can place these unsupervised loitering areas anywhere they like and then the tier-paying customers must adjust or move. When these new Folly Builds start popping up all over the mainland - many parcel owners will have negative experiences because the Linden lack of supervison. _____________________ http://slurl.com/secondlife/Bear/214/199/107 Join in SL open enrollment CLUB JOBS to announce new DJ and Host Jobs for free. And on Avatar's United http://www.avatarsunited.com/groups/club-jobs
Broccoli Curry I am my alt's alt's alt. Join date: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 1,660	02-20-2008 08:52 From: Lias Leandros When these new Folly Builds start popping up all over the mainland - many parcel owners will have negative experiences because the Linden lack of supervison. ... or maybe not. You just can't say for sure a blanket statement based on the opinions of one forum poster. From: someone I just do not agree that Linden Lab can place these unsupervised loitering areas anywhere they like Why can't they? They can do whatever they like at any time they like for any or no reason. The TOS we all agreed to says so. _____________________ ~ This space has been abandoned as I can no longer afford it.
Colette Meiji Registered User Join date: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 15,556	02-20-2008 08:58 From: Broccoli Curry ... or maybe not. You just can't say for sure a blanket statement based on the opinions of one forum poster. Why can't they? They can do whatever they like at any time they like for any or no reason. The TOS we all agreed to says so. Well she has a point. If you live in a nice quiet Sima nd suddenly a popular public works build goes up and its always crowded , right next to your house ... It would be annoying.

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