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Bree Giffen
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12-07-2007 21:22
I know that when I worked at a store as a greeter there were several times when I wasn't looking and a customer zipped right by me. I could turn my head to pick up a phone and when I look back at the screen there are 5 people walking by. I'd say you shouldn't let something like that get to you. There are probably a lot of innocent reasons why things happen. Did she make you angry or did you just make yourself angry?
Tarina Sewell
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12-07-2007 21:38
From: Bree Giffen
I know that when I worked at a store as a greeter there were several times when I wasn't looking and a customer zipped right by me. I could turn my head to pick up a phone and when I look back at the screen there are 5 people walking by. I'd say you shouldn't let something like that get to you. There are probably a lot of innocent reasons why things happen. Did she make you angry or did you just make yourself angry?



the fact that she was standing in front of me and moved to the side when I entered and greeted the person directly after me and was moving about got me upset.
But no worries, apparently wanting to be acknowledged is not reasonable. I won't expect to be welcomed and won't get upset.

and Hello!

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Missfit Arai
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12-07-2007 21:49
From: Tarina Sewell
I entered a venue tonight, I was there for about 3 min.... no one said a word to me..
I was wearing my prego shape... (5 months) for kicks cause, well I can.. I just came from another venue so was changing my clothes...to fit the venue.
My friend TPed in and with 2 sec she had a greet.. Welcome "myfriends name".
So I said, wow i didn't get a greet.. and then of course another of the hostesses says "Welcome Tarina!" the one at the front door never said welcome...

Oh it's not because there was so many people there that she missed me either.. there was like 5 people there...... So I made a comment that I would catch the Live muscian at another venue and poofed out'a there.. (cause I do go to his shows cause I like him) Of course my friend followed me out.
Then of course I get a IM asking me if there was a problem.. DUH! But me being nice, I said. oh no problem good luck with your place...and muted her.

So am I over reacting? Cause I am pretty angry over it.



I think if they bothered to IM to see if there was a problem then it's not likely they'd ignore you deliberately, especially as they greeted your friend & greeted you as soon as they were aware they hadn't. I can't see that the shape had anything to do with it, i've been sl pregnant 2x & both times people were easier to speak to cause so many were curious. ( I *do* agree on the tummy talker spam though, although you don't have one; it drives others insane, much like clicking shoe heels & bling lol ) ... anyways, maybe the host was afk, or her r/l kid grabbed something or whatever, maybe some jerk was in IM, or her screen froze a second, thing is I think they sound like a decent place. Just IMO

*Bleh edited to add, I don't know why she was muted, I worked in customer service & to use complaints were good feedback so we could learn from them, maybe she *geniunely* wanted to know, you haven't mentioned her harassing you so I think mute is abit OTT .. don't intend to come across as a b****, hell i've muted more people than anyone I know, friends too!, but I think this was a misunderstanding, going purely on the info provided.*
Tarina Sewell
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12-07-2007 22:16
I believe I did say she was not AFK earler, but I think people missed it..

I was not rude to the people in the venue.. all I said was I'll catch him someplace else, and was speaking to my friend.
I muted the person that IMed me, but I NEVER said anything rude in the open chat, or to her..and frankly she could and probably did, mute me too.

So I am being judges unfairly here and that surprises me greatly.
So what if i want a greeting? Is that wrong? Apparently one less person makes more room.. For others.. maybe worse than me..omg..the horror.
I do not spam, I use my slashes to speak in a live venue..
I am polite, I tip, and I talk friendly and enjoy companionships in these places because we are all there because we like something, we have common ground.
I am a VERY friendly person in RL & in SL and I expect manners and politness from others..It's what is lacking in the R&SL world and why we are all in trouble.
Others judge, not knowing you or every fact... They assume and do not see the facts.
The disregard a person because of one thing or another.
They read but do not see.
I do not belittle others or make them feel small because I feel I am better than they are because I have this or I have that.
I know I can not expect to get along with everyone, there will be people that no matter what I do I will not do a thing right.
I pay for my time, I own land and I am trying to be active in the SL community.
But if I learned anything from this post today...
Don't expect to be appreciated, thanked, or otherwise acknowledged for taking a bit of time to visit someones event... because that is an unrealistic expectation.
Chris Norse
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12-07-2007 22:24
Tarina, there could have been a hundred different reasons why you didn't get greeted. Hell she may have said something and SL lost it. That has happened to me before. Just chill and don't take things so personally.
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Nika Talaj
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12-07-2007 22:24
Perhaps we are missing the point here. Tarina, are you suspecting that you were not greeted because you were wearing your pregnant shape? And in a bikini?

Was the bikini perhaps not inline with dresscode at the venue?

If so, I'm sure you changed quickly, but you may have taken the greeter aback, and they may have been deciding whether to do a normal greet or whether to ask you to change clothes.
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12-07-2007 22:28
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Danielle Harrop
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12-07-2007 22:37
Gaybot:

I resemble that remark :P


Least I can laugh at myself now.

k...back to the ranting already in progress :)
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Amity Slade
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12-07-2007 22:37
Expecting a greeting is reasonable. However, I don't think lack of a greeting is a personal slight. It sounds like you are associating the lack of greeting with the fact that you had a pregnant avatar, when it's far more likely that the lack of greeting was due to your host not paying attention. Sometimes I fail to pay attention to things. Happens to most of us.

You have no obligation to like it or be forgiving, and it's reasonable that you do not want to stay at the venue and may avoid it in the future because you were not treated the way you expect to be treated. It may be a situation where you want to complain to the manager. However, if it continues to bother you and be on your mind, and prevents you from moving on to do things that you would enjoy, then you may be holding on to your anger a bit too long.
Jig Chippewa
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12-07-2007 22:37
I am reading this with interest but - why did this person get upset?
Is there the implication that a DEPICTION of pregnancy (after all avitars CANT be really pregnant) is cause for the ignoring? Who cares if person is "pregnant"? It isnt a REAL pregnancy. Anway, who would anyone go out of one's way to greet a preggers woman? Or am I missing the point?
Is greeting an expectation? I am always being ignored.
The REAL world is a harsher place than this - I hope this person realizes that. I pay a lot of money to be "greeted" when I enter stores - it is part of the mark-up.
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12-07-2007 22:39
From: Nika Talaj
are you suspecting that you were not greeted because you were wearing your pregnant shape? And in a bikini?

I would also ask you to change your clothes - surely not preggers and in a bikini? EU
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12-07-2007 22:47
From: Tarina Sewell

But if I learned anything from this post today...
Don't expect to be appreciated, thanked, or otherwise acknowledged for taking a bit of time to visit someones event... because that is an unrealistic expectation.


Honey, you are feeling sorry for itself and it shows. Lighten up.

Hang on. Pregnant in a bikini? Not a tad attention seeking attire?

***edit*** naw ... I am going to say this. No one 'blamed' you ... not me either. Come on, snap out of it, SL is meant to be fun. Victims are not having fun, so stop talking and thinking like one. I don't mean this nastily though no doubt it might well be taken that way.
Tarina Sewell
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12-07-2007 22:48
From: Nika Talaj
Perhaps we are missing the point here. Tarina, are you suspecting that you were not greeted because you were wearing your pregnant shape? And in a bikini?

Was the bikini perhaps not inline with dresscode at the venue?

If so, I'm sure you changed quickly, but you may have taken the greeter aback, and they may have been deciding whether to do a normal greet or whether to ask you to change clothes.


The point actually I was trying to make..... is greeters in general and how it effects a venue.. ; ) wow! that was lost though!! Apparently no one else cares!

And as far as the dress code- nothing posted, or no notecard given..... as I said earler I probably shocked her so that yes, I can accept... she did not recover fast enough (3 min is a short time to react I suppose)

It just amazed me how quickly I was put to blame as being unrealistic in expecting that my little cartoon should be made to feel welcome.


; ))

Thanks for everyones input!
Tarina Sewell
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12-07-2007 22:57
From: Gaybot Blessed



LMAO!!!
Danielle Harrop
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12-07-2007 23:03
It is very funny, isn't it Tarina? :) I'm gonna copy it and use it for my desktop, I think :) it's SOoooooo me :)
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12-07-2007 23:34
I thought of you when I saw this thread Ms. Harrop, but I wasn't going to say anything, lol.



P.S. Welcome to the forums Tarina :)
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Danielle Harrop
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12-07-2007 23:37
OMG...I"m special! you thought of me? Then my evil plan to dominate the forums with my evil DRAMA ray has succeeded (evil laugh here) :)

Actually, I can laugh at myself now, so if you have any more funnies, within reason (don't be too hard on me) I can take 'em :) hah

ps. I love your av pic in this forum......that is one of my mostest favoritest movies of all time :P
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12-08-2007 01:35
From: Cherry Czervik
Honey, you are feeling sorry for itself and it shows. Lighten up.

Hang on. Pregnant in a bikini? Not a tad attention seeking attire?



Maybe but could have worn much worse in SL, pregnant in BDSM leathers comes to mind................. (hmm I really need to have serious talk with my mind sometime)

Possibly they sent the greeting in the wrong IM window and didn't realise?
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Sally Silvera
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12-08-2007 02:07
Since I famously spend a lot of time music hopping I figured I'd throw my 2c in :o

If you go to a live music gig, you go there to listen to music.
If there's a host or venue owner to greet you and make you feel welcome, that's a bonus.

Venue owners and hosts are very hard working people who in my experience do their best to make everyone feel welcome and support the musician who is playing at the same time.

If a venue owner or host fails to greet you it is unlikely to be on purpose. After all, it is in their best interest to keep you coming back. They pay a lot of money to host these events and most don't earn it back.

My suggestion would be that if you have a problem with a venue, you IM the owner/host and explain. Muting them seems a particularly strange avenue to choose in this context.

I have nothing but respect for people who spend their money to provide live music and sincerely hope you will continue to enjoy same.

As for "expect to be appreciated, thanked, or otherwise acknowledged" .......

I'm usually the one showing my apppreciation and thanking the venue owner and musician for the event and the musician, but that could just be me.... :o

:)

just my 2c, IMHO, YMMV etc....
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12-08-2007 03:28
Probably the mood swings.
Watch out with those preggo shapes.
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12-08-2007 04:27
From: Qie Niangao
Hehehe... as a progenitor of some pregnant tummies (as their scripter--emphatically *not* as their father), I can say with some authority that a pregnant *shape* doesn't spam. My scripts, on the other hand...


Damn you. Damn you and all your kind.

Tip for the next version you do; in real life when a foetus kicks, everyone within 20m doesn't know about it (unless she is carrying Superman's baby) - so why do we have to know about it in SL. Isn't there a way to script it so that it just IMs the wearer or something.
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12-08-2007 04:28
From: Tarina Sewell
The point actually I was trying to make..... is greeters in general and how it effects a venue.. ; ) wow! that was lost though!! Apparently no one else cares!

Thanks for everyones input!


The point you seem to miss is you are making a big deal out of nothing. When I'm hosting at our club I'm frequently interrupted by massive IM overloads, sending out notices, and sometimes I even step away to get some water. Can you imagine? Sometimes I miss people when these things happen. I apologize on behalf of all the hosts out there for being human.
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12-08-2007 04:41
I've been in this thread for an hour now. Nobody has acknowledged me.



Jerks.
Conan Godwin
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12-08-2007 04:44
From: Drivin Sideways
I've been in this thread for an hour now. Nobody has acknowledged me.



Jerks.



What do you expect? We don't talk to fat people in swimwear.

Now for the love of God, cover it up!
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12-08-2007 04:56
From: Tarina Sewell
I believe I did say she was not AFK earler, but I think people missed it..


She may not have been slumped over with AFK over her head, but that doesn't mean she had her attention on SL. I don't go AFK when I nip to the bathroom in the middle of an event, or turn round to talk to somebody, or check the dog isn't vomiting on the child.

People are using the term to mean 'wasn't paying full attention' as opposed to her having set herself to AFK.
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