Privacy in Public Access Lands?

Me too and me neither. Cracks me up to see a skateboard hanging in the air. I have a friend who is a RL nun, (I call her the flying nun) who just adores SL vehicles and crashes often, leaving them all over the place. Every now and then I check my top scripts to see if she's got anything around, and return to her what I find. Her SL isn't hurting me, she's just having fun, why trip over it? I know we are supposed to clean up after ourselves but she's new enough to be still learning, one day I'll teach her but for now, just let her have fun. I do hope she doesn't run into anyone who is really angry about SL vehicles or the people riding them.

If you mean no visitors - no. Just because someone didn't put up a ban line doesn't mean you can use their land and home with impunity.

Search some of the past ban lines threads to find out why some do not use ban lines or orbs...it's not liked by everyone and some don't use them to try to appease their neighbors, etc. But it doesn't mean their door is open.

That's a bit like saying unless someone has electrified fences and rottweilers in RL, you can picnic on their front lawn. Not so much.

Question about this; say you have autoreturn set to 0, and then decide to turn it on, for the purposes you mentioned here. The stuff that's already there; will that stay or go once it's turned on?

Why don't you drop in a few more juicy clues - so people can give you a pertinent answer?

Anything not set to owner if it's only the owner's name on the land, or to group if it's group owned land will disappear.

Auto return of 1 or higher is a great and beautiful thing...in my book.

Oh, it was left. Before I turned autoreturn on, people would leave all sorts of crap on my land. They'd unpack boxes and leave everything behind. All manner of stray items were littering my little parcel. Yes, autoreturn does take care of that.

However, it does not stop people from coming into your home like they own the place and changing the settings on your furniture or whatever else you may have.

It also does not stop people from barging into your home and propositioning you for sex. I mean, what the hell kind of person thinks that is a good idea?

Too bad autoreturn doesn't work for people.

Right-click on the avatar and Freeze does

Followed by a little chat.
Followed by Eject and Ban if they don't accept the error of their ways.
I've definitely done it twice, and maybe a third time in three years.

I log visitors to my parcels. I have noticed very occasional visitors to a skyboxes and work platforms. Nobody has taken up residence though. If I ever had that, I'd use a security script to target them.

I'm working on some weapons stuff at the moment. I'd incorporate that



Way back in the mists of time and ban-line threads long past, there was mention of Grannies with brooms shouting "Get off my lawn!" and swarms of bees. Those sort of devices, or my burn and bang are the kind of fun stuff that I think should be used to target abusive people. Banning everyone is just unnecessary and plain mean-minded in my view.

Only if you're there to do it.

It doesn't do a thing about people coming in and screwing around with your stuff while you aren't there.

And yes, I do find it somewhat annoying to come home to find all my doors standing open and the poses on my furniture screwed up.

And, if while they are frozen and you are having your little chat, if they say to themselves, forget this, and log off, when they return they'll log right back into your house, right? (if they have their options set to rez where they left from, which seems most noobs do) Probably when you aren't there to deal with it........I really don't want to chat, I'd rather send them on their way at that time than to assume they'll stick around while frozen. They 'can' log off while frozen, cant they? (just realized that could be an assumption?)

I think so.

They can also move around while frozen, in my experience. Must be lag.

People who totally ignore pleas by the home/land owner to stop - including if a translator device is used - cannot really be counted on to do the fair or reasonable thing. Sometimes eject/ban is the only thing that will work.

If only people respected other people's belongings. I'm not sure when that became such an epidemic, or maybe until the world was online it wasn't as obvious.

I've had land for almost all of my SL life and without even one single exception that has always proven to be an utter waste of time.

I'm not going to hide that seeing *anyone* I don't know anywhere on my land puts me in bad mood already but they still get a non-threatening "Hey-ies... anything I can help you with?".

By far the most common response is to get ignored while they continue to roam around; or they start coming up with excuses about how they're "exploring" and how they're completely justified in making themselves at home on a couch; or just a rant about how they have a god given right to go wherever they please; or telling me to get lost and not bother them if they happen to have brought a friend/friends.

It also didn't make any difference whether I was on the mainland, a private estate or a detached homestead where you wouldn't even expect people to just randomly show up all the time.

Even if it was - and it isn't - it's only a direct response to the general resident's utter lack of common sense or manners.

If it's not listed in search or if the parcel description doesn't explicitly point out that everyone can make themselves at home then they really shouldn't be hanging around (much less invite other people over).

And it should be common sense/common courtesy NOT go to into any residence (and most houses look like houses) unless invited first.

That said - houses that are near shops - especially shops/malls where the shops are in little cute houses - can be confusing even to me! (I don't count myself a noob.) One tends to think the shops extend to that parcel, too if it all looks the same.

People who live in houses that are near malls might wanna choose another style of house than the shops are in...not that it will stop everyone from wandering in. Or maybe the mall could make things clearer with a low fence around most of it.

I just checked with an alt. They are frozen for 30 seconds, but they can log out.

The two (three?) avatars that I froze didn't log out.
It's easier to ban them from the pie menu, but you can always add their name to the access list manually.

If you were concerned about a log-out person returning then ....
If over 700+ metres and in the absence of a security device do stuff like rezzing a nice big prim where they would return to.

The important thing with idiots is not to take it personally.
A serial idiot is fair game in my view.
Ridicule is best.

Ok, clearly you have never seen my houses! Why make it look like RL when gravity and weather are just affectations?

One house people routinely thought was just a park. One friend did a double take when I was showing him around what he assumed was a garden and he stepped on a skylight .... with a tree below it. Here is one incarnation of it: .

Another was just having fun with hidden doors and transparent walls. A noob tried to enter it one day, so I just walked in the building in plain sight and when his back was turned duck through a hidden door. Then I would run down a hidden passageway and when he turned around reappear in the house near where I was in the first place (but with no obvious path that I could have taken). He eventually left in frustration.

It's not a direct response to abusers.
In the case of a parcel bordering Linden routes - in particular- it's as thoughtless as the behaviour of the abusers. It's treating *everyone* as though they were abusers.

You must be encountering a very different sort of "general resident" from those that I have seen over the years.

I haven't. But that's why I said "most."



I actually SO agree with you. But, people seem rooted to notions of stairs, doors, and terra firma nonetheless. "Conceptual" builds don't seem to have as large a market. And a lot of people seem to prefer to recreate - at least for their homes and preferred stomping grounds - the real world, only more to their liking.

I wish more places had no gravity at all, to be honest. But it would sure panic a lot of people. Especially newbies. I don't scoff at this though - I remember when skyboxes freaked me out in case I might 'fall.' Now I regularly jump off mine if bored (damage isn't enabled on my land though - I'm not a masochist.)



Kool.



Hehe. So, no orbs - mazes.

Well, now...

If you have Home set to your skybox, and you enable Damage, and leap to your death...you have a cool amusement park ride that automatically sends you right back to the top of the tower for another go!

Lol true...

I just tp home though.

That's often been my experience, too. Worst case was a neighbor who came over to my old house, who ended up bein' a bit, um, "stalk-y." But they've not all been bad. Mostly, though, it's noobs who don't seem to get that there can indeed be private residences in the world.

In fact, one of my dearer experiences in SL was being at home and someone wandering the neighborhood was playing at being a door-to-door saleslady, using a Judge Judy soundboard to ask us questions! It was hilarious, to be honest. I also had someone come through and "deliver pizza" in the 'hood, too. That I like.

So if n00bs are the problem, messing up your pose's in your sex bed / sofa or whatever, target under 3 month old AV's ??? why pick on EVERYONE ? lets be honest here, it's just paranio and lazyness isn't it ?

There isn't any built-in way to ban by age. Nor is there a checkbox to ban "tourists" for that matter.

There's also a certain irony involved: if you go where you shouldn't as a matter of habit then it's only normal that you're constantly going to encounter and be annoyed by access restrictions or security orbs.

The only people bothered by access restrictions on my land are exactly those people who it's meant to keep out. If someone wants to fly over it then they're not even going to notice they're there. If you feel some need to stroll around and throw a party in my house then yes, the access restriction is going to annoy you. How inconsiderate of me .

Maybe you tightly restrict your zones, but the people we're complaining about don't, not by any means. I stay clear of houses, I stay clear of green dots, I don't intrude on anyone. I go nowhere I shouldn't. I'm still tossed about by idiots with hair-trigger security scripts. The last time it happened I got thrown practically on top one of the security freak's neighbors, who commiserated with me and said he was just waiting for the nut to leave so he could buy the parcel and clean off the monstrosity on it.

As I mentioned in another thread recently, the couple I kicked out of my house/bed were from 2007. Old enough to know better. They knew it wasn't theirs, knew they didn't pay for it. Just saw something they thought they could get away with, and took advantage of it. If I am inworld, my visitor counter IM's me when someone tp's onto my land parcels. So it didn't take me that long to get there but they were already in my bed going at it.

/me passes Treasure some cootie spray

and a small atomiser of ho- b- gone

LMAO >.< I want the hobo spray !

Kitty please read page two, I have outlined my behavior
"I would know I'm not welcome and wouldn't even get on there land in the 1st place"

I don't want to trespass in the 1st place honestly, but it can't be helped if an area hasn't rez'd and there are no ban lines. Its like setting invisible beartraps for passers by.. youd get locked up for it and thrown in a looney bin in the real world .. why is it acceptable here ?

Treasure
were they alt friends perhaps ? just playing a joke ? No actauly they probably do that thing all the time . I know there are some wierd kinks in some people, all the same there a minoraty I'm sure. I dont have security on my land, or visitor loggers / chat spies, so I have no idea what goes on when Im not there. I've never log'd on n seen anyone misbehaving and I've never found mysteriouse prims ... (autoreturn is set to 0 anyone can rez). but I'm not on the mainland so my case study is probably a bit mute. Now for these rare trespases (I'm going to suppose they are rare I have no proof) one AR and ban/mute poof ... gone - who cares ! shame you have to re adjust the furniture pose, but then thats to be expected without ban lines ? if your in a skybox then fine TP them push them .. attack them with bee's I don't care ... as it won't be me exploring ground level watch out for ferrets in hot air ballons though >.< as for those spouting there god given rights .. what do you care, if you haven't muted them by then you must be amused by them in some way no ?

ohhh sorry I just remebered I use ban lines ... of course I don't get problems >.<