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My friend has become a Bood Doll, help

Nim Lavendel
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07-22-2009 07:53
First of all Thank you! Jax Wrydan for starting this thread cos I thought I was gonna have to start my own since I couldn't find any information about what it was all about elsewhere. Just like him, I just wanna know what I might be getting myself into before making some stupid, for all I know possibly irreversible decision.

Another big Thank you! to Gabriele Graves who explained a bit about Blood dolls for those of us who don't yet know everything.

There are soooo many things in SL that are very hard to find out about cos it seems everyone already knows the lingo and enjoy posting replies without actually answering any of the newbies' pretty straight forward questions or reply using terms that just creates a follow on question cos we don't know what it means. (and oh yes i realise yr gonna bitch about me saying this but that's ok.)

I really wish there was some kind of RP basics FAQ so I could find out for myself.
And a common terms & abbreviations FAQ too....

So, the reason for this post is that despite reading these 7 pages I still have some unanswered questions:

What is the difference between Bloodlines and other clans?

What's is and what's so bad about being listed in their database?

Do they gain control over yr avi somehow?

What would it actually mean for my game except she'd come and bite me ever so often? I mean does it change my avatar somehow?

How can they possibly MAKE you buy stuff if you don't want to?
I'm quoting:
From: Imnotgoing Sideways
The key problem with Bloodlines is that a part of the activity is taking their game to the grid at large and targeting people who aren't in the game for bite requests to increase their score. Within the bite request is an advertisement to join the game. To join the game, you have to buy their HUD/Meter that costs around L$500, or buy their “cures” that still all cost money. So, what’s really happening is that unknowing people are lead to assume that this game is something intrinsic to SL and possible a common expense to “Play this game”. (=_=)
Dekka Raymaker
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07-22-2009 08:04
What is the difference between Bloodlines and other clans?
Don't know

What's is and what's so bad about being listed in their database?
Some people are paranoid about privacy. People are not made aware that when they enter this RP that you will be added to a database. The argument is that basically it should be your choice to be added and not something you have to do to remove yourself later.

Do they gain control over yr avi somehow?
No, they only get control of people who are paranoid and hate bloodlines, because they seem to be the only people who go on and on and on about it.

What would it actually mean for my game except she'd come and bite me ever so often? I mean does it change my avatar somehow?
No.

I like to keep control over my own appearance/movements etc. unless i temporarily & for a limited time decide not to.
Well that's up to you, no problem there.

How can they possibly MAKE you buy stuff if you don't want to? I'm quoting:
Imnotgoing was implying that this RP maybe deceptive to new players, that they may think they have to pay, whereas as you point out you don't, but not everyone can think around something like this.

What is a trap gun & how does it work?
It is most probably the same as a cage, it works with a script (I believe) but I don't know the mechanics of how the script works.

How does people in a capture game know whether yr playing capturer or captive? Asking? Reading yr profile?
Usually the captive and captor have particular descriptive words above their heads saying so.
Kelli May
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07-22-2009 08:12
From: Nim Lavendel
...

So, the reason for this post is that despite reading these 7 pages I still have some unanswered questions:

What is the difference between Bloodlines and other clans?

What's is and what's so bad about being listed in their database?

Do they gain control over yr avi somehow?

What would it actually mean for my game except she'd come and bite me ever so often? I mean does it change my avatar somehow? I like to keep control over my own appearance/movements etc. unless i temporarily & for a limited time decide not to.

How can they possibly MAKE you buy stuff if you don't want to?
I'm quoting:

On a different RP note for any experienced BDSM players I'm gonna ask my other still unanswered questions while I'm at it:

What is a trapgun & how does it work?

How does people in a capture game know whether yr playing capturer or captive? Asking? Reading yr profile?


I hope my post won't offend anyone so much they feel they have to post a million replies telling me I'm snotty. I don't mean to be. It's just that my eyes are bleeding from reading pages & pages & posts & posts without ever finding the relevant answers.
I hate even having to ask but I'm so tired of searching without finding.
So if you feel should feel offended by any of this or the need to take me down a few knobholes, please know that I'm not here to quarrel and fight. I'm not out to critizise anyone. I just want to learn. And play better.

Whereas some (hopefully most) vampire clans are motivated by roleplay, characterisation, storytelling or at the very least, a desire to hand out in cool gothy clothing, Bloodlines is a competitive game. The intention (for most of the players I've met) is to progress in the proscribed scoring system based on how many souls one has collected.

There's nothing inherently wrong with being listed, apart from the right to privacy and to control where information relating to you is kept.

They don't get control over your av, unless you count the brief time you are animated by a bite HUD. And then only if they give you permission.

They can't force you to buy anything. There are scripted items that let one play in their system, which you need to buy to join in. You can RP being a vampire without them, but you can't take part in Bloodlines (apart from as a victim).

Trapguns work by rezzing a prim cage of some kind around you. In more sophisticated ones, the cage can follow you around, so you can't just sit TP away from it. There are now probably trapguns that act on RLV too.

In capture games, participants usually wear "hunter" and "prey" tags. Often they use a combat system or HUD to determine if someone is caught. They work differently from place to place. Go to some capture RP places and read their notecards.
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Gabriele Graves
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07-22-2009 15:02
From: Nim Lavendel
So, the reason for this post is that despite reading these 7 pages I still have some unanswered questions:

What is the difference between Bloodlines and other clans?
You cannot compare Bloodlines with clans because whatever clan you are comparing it with will be in fact part of a different game system. Most SL roleplaying systems involving vampires are not setup to inherently promote griefing on the general populace of SL.

From: Nim Lavendel
What's is and what's so bad about being listed in their database?
Not a lot if you are a willing participant, it is mainly the people who have not signed up to play the game who object to being listed as participants of that game. An close analogy (though flawed as they usually are) maybe to think of it as if someone signed you up without your knowledge to some periodical you find personally objectionable, wouldn't you find it annoying in the least and want them to unsign you?

From: Nim Lavendel
Do they gain control over yr avi somehow?
Nope not in the least.

From: Nim Lavendel
What would it actually mean for my game except she'd come and bite me ever so often? I mean does it change my avatar somehow? I like to keep control over my own appearance/movements etc. unless i temporarily & for a limited time decide not to.
It would not mean much in your case as your role would be blood doll, it really only affects vampires and non-willing participants. You are right, it would be pretty much that you are a free, fresh supply for her. You are in fact helping her to do better in the game. However due to the game structure (pyramid scheme like) she is highly unlikely to do better than the people who joined at the same time as her, the people who already are more powerful than her will likely stay that way unless the game structure fundamentally changes.

From: Nim Lavendel
How can they possibly MAKE you buy stuff if you don't want to? I'm quoting:
[/highlight]Some of these for sale item are to help vampires do better in the game, some is to stop them sliding backwards as other more powerful vampires take their blood/souls stash etc.

I'll leave your BDSM questions to someone more qualified :) VV
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07-22-2009 15:31
From: Kelli May
The intention (for most of the players I've met) is to progress in the proscribed scoring system based on how many souls one has collected.
Alas, the scoring system is not actually proscribed. :D
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Smith Peel
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07-22-2009 16:19
From: Pserendipity Daniels
Ah Smithy, you are demonstrating astonishing naivety.....


Peppers, old buddy, I think you mistake naïvité for not spending every waking hour on the forums ;)

Smif (Or maybe the cardinal sin of not fixating on the worst in people ;) )
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07-22-2009 16:20
From: Briana Dawson
Hey Pep..

have you won the internetz yet, handsome?



I LOL'd.
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Smith Peel
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07-22-2009 16:22
From: Talarus Luan
So, if I stick your name in my database without you knowing it, would you pay me L$250 to remove it? Would you do that for the probably hundreds to thousands of similar databases out there? If so, you're contributing to the problem.

The point is why care? If someone told me I was in the spampire database, I'd go "so?".

For those who put my name in their database, have fun! Spam me or otherwise harass me, and there will be ARs. Outside of that, they don't exist in my universe. :)


Like it or not, a lot of people play Bloodlines. I got no problem against it except that they should warn us clueless mortals before we accept a bite.
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Smith Peel
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07-22-2009 16:23
From: Pussycat Catnap
He cared because his actual friend later wanted to put his name in that database next to her...

And he felt it unfair that the first person was able to put him in there under herself without him realizing it, thus requiring him to have to pay to get in there under the proper second person's name.

Its only a scam in that he wasn't properly notified that accepting from the first person would cause him problems later on.



Thank you for getting my point there, Pussycat :D
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Smith Peel
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07-22-2009 16:30
From: Talarus Luan
Yes, and my point is that he didn't HAVE to pay. It wasn't his only option, under any circumstances. He could have done a little bit of research and found a vampire RP setting for them both to enjoy which wasn't an exploitative scam. Might have even significantly impressed her, demonstrating the lengths he was willing to go to for them to have fun together. Blowing a pea-sized wad of L$ doesn't seem very impressive, to me, at least. ;) .....



Of course I didn't HAVE to pay. With very few exceptions, I don't HAVE to do anything. However, I did not want my name associated with the other person, bottom line. Even if I didn't wanna get bitten again, I wouldn't have wanted that. So it was unacceptable as it was. That is my point. Not sure why I am repeating it again. Also I was not trying to impress anyone. I have a 100 meter tall penis for that ;)
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Kelli May
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07-22-2009 17:25
From: Argent Stonecutter
Alas, the scoring system is not actually proscribed. :D

Prescribed. Bugger. Not sure if that's a typo or wishful thinking.
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07-22-2009 17:30
From: Kelli May
Prescribed. Bugger. Not sure if that's a typo or wishful thinking.
Freudian slips aren't always about sex. :D
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07-22-2009 19:08
From: Smith Peel
Of course I didn't HAVE to pay. With very few exceptions, I don't HAVE to do anything. However, I did not want my name associated with the other person, bottom line. Even if I didn't wanna get bitten again, I wouldn't have wanted that. So it was unacceptable as it was. That is my point. Not sure why I am repeating it again.


To 99.999% of the residents of Second Life, you weren't associated with the other person.

If all someone someone has to do in order to get some L$ out of you (or anyone, really) is to stick your name in a database and offer you a fee for removal, I suppose that makes it a good business model. :)

From: someone
Also I was not trying to impress anyone. I have a 100 meter tall penis for that ;)


Only 100? You need some megaprims, bud. ;)
Smith Peel
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07-22-2009 20:24
From: Talarus Luan
To 99.999% of the residents of Second Life, you weren't associated with the other person.


Now, you do realize this percentage is gonna vary according to the crowd I hang out in? ;)

From: Talarus Luan
If all someone someone has to do in order to get some L$ out of you (or anyone, really) is to stick your name in a database and offer you a fee for removal, I suppose that makes it a good business model. :)


Like I said, it is a great business model ;)

From: Talarus Luan
Only 100? You need some megaprims, bud. ;)


The nuts are :D
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Nim Lavendel
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A big massive THANK YOU for the answers i was looking for!
07-23-2009 04:48
Thank you so much everyone. You've truly made my day! (<--A good deed indeed!)

My bleeding eyes thank you from the bottom of their sockets!
steph Werefox
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12-02-2009 15:12
From: Jax Wrydan
I'm not sure what its all about. I am concerned for her. Please help me understand this. Thanks.



a blood doll is a person who i think offers blood to a vampire in their "family" or clan its a term used by vamp clans and i am a blood doll and its nothing to be concerned about or its a person that if a vamp in their clan is low on blood then they can ask her to give them some blood


From: Gabriele Graves
Wow this necro-post even brought me back from the dead to look :eek: O.o



XD im a necromancer what can i say?
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12-02-2009 15:14
Wow this necro-post even brought me back from the dead to look :eek: O.o
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12-02-2009 15:18
From: Gabriele Graves
Wow this necro-post even brought me back from the dead to look :eek: O.o
Necroposting is the new trolling :)
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12-02-2009 15:37
Jax and Nim (I think those are the guys who originally asked the vampire question)..... Forget it, it's just a stupid in-house game played by a group of second life role players. Most are morons with little thought except getting the 'bites' (numbers) to bolster their tally. It's all a load of squit as my granny would have said. If you want to join in do so, its quite harmless. If not, do what I do....mute the buggers and turn them grey (ash-like) and pursue your own little numbers game.......it'll give you an enormous sense of well being :)
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12-02-2009 15:42
From: Briana Dawson
I told a vampire guy that my Partner is a Vampyre and his first words were: "but you use the garlic necklace" (i used that last year to make sure i stay out of Bloodlines databases and cannot be bitten by a Bloodlines goober user)..Some of those Bloodlines vampires cannot fathom a vampire experience without using their crap.


Real vampires are so much older than Bloodlines... even in SL
Oh... didn't notice the necrotic state...
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12-02-2009 15:50
bloodlines is like the new race of Emopires
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12-02-2009 18:10
From: Ceka Cianci
bloodlines is like the new race of Emopires

that was great... almost as good as Buffy vs Edward =)
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12-02-2009 18:18
From: Ceka Cianci
bloodlines is like the new race of Emopires

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW !!!
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12-02-2009 18:37


(But aren't necroposts about right for a thread on vampires?)
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12-02-2009 18:47
/me stabs the thread with a stake that was made in the light of the sun, soaked in holy water and then rubbed with salt.
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