My friend has become a Bood Doll, help

What's really funny about this post is that there was a 'blood doll' complaining of being "nothing but a living breathing snack machine" at a support group for vampire victims. Hehe

I don't see anyone here, including me, calling for the creation of a "nanny society" in SL. What I see is a person who is concerned about a friend. Maybe Jax has reason to be, maybe not; I have no way of knowing. Quite possibly the friend will tell Jax to "MYOBB." In which case, Jax would be well advised to follow that advice in the future.

But chatting with a friend about a decision that she or he is making that you think ill-advised hardly constitutes the hard fist of the State coming down on free will.

Not really. It is better in a role playing/life style setting that does not require the use of scripted vampire things like Bloodlines.

Imagination is all that is needed. Bloodlines just adds a bunch of useless minutia and drama to the experience.

I told a vampire guy that my Partner is a Vampyre and his first words were: "but you use the garlic necklace" (i used that last year to make sure i stay out of Bloodlines databases and cannot be bitten by a Bloodlines goober user)..Some of those Bloodlines vampires cannot fathom a vampire experience without using their crap.

I was referring to your attitude, not Jax's.

Pep (But then, Jax asked for opinions.)

You were advocating nannying:


SL *IS* that simple. You absolutely can not draw an analogy with rl, where your attitude is not necessarily universally accepted either. We don't need any more understanding of the mechanisms of consent in SL other than to know that everybody has signed up to the ToS/Community Standards.

Pep (And LL hardly constitutes the hard fist of the State by any definition.))

Nod.

I can understand that. I use xcite after all. For me, yes, it does add to it.

But these things can also be a crutch - like people who think roleplay requires dice and tax forms rather than well, playing a role.

I am advocating NO such thing. I am suggesting a more sophisticated understanding of the process. I have not suggested any sort of "remedy" for this at all, beyond keeping an eye out for one's friends. It is entirely possible to do that without "nannying," provided one has rudimentary understanding of the difference between "concern" and "interference." I like to think that concern for my friends' well-being is a pretty normal function of friendship. But hey, maybe that's just me?

As for the reductive notion that consent is always completely uncomplicated in SL, well . . . maybe you have never spoken to a friend who was literally terrified by the prospect of an SL lover stalking her in RL because she broke with him. I'm afraid that I have.

Stupidity is its own punishment.

Pep ("a more sophisticated understanding of the process" sounds like the typical opening gambit of a Blairite - RIP - intervention.)

LOL!!! Your compassion and empathy overwhelm me.

Giving out RL details, even if only phone numbers, to lovers or partners is not exactly an unusual thing in SL, is it? The grid appears to be FULL of idiots.

/me strikes Pep off her list of potential friends . . .

I kind of did a pause there, and wondered if a Bood doll was anything like a Bratz doll?


Which would indeed be scary! Bratz dolls wordlessly bombard impressionable girls with the message that unrealistically large... heads are beautiful.

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/bratz_dolls_may_give_young_girls

And I don't think the damage will be confined to just one gender. Pretty soon, impressionable young males might start to shun smaller headed girls. Even when a small headed girl would otherwise be their choice, if peer pressure were taken away.

It's a conspiracy, I tell you! A conspiracy motivated by cash, wrought upon the impressionable innocents of this world!

*wrings hands and wanders off muttering*

Fixed it for ya!


You said it darling!


You mean I was on it in the first place?

Pep (Poor taste is its own reward, too.)

By this definition of "Blood Doll", she cannot be taken advantage of:

"A blood doll is someone WILLING to be a donar,if you will,of their blood to someone who belives themself to be a vampire or likes to drink others blood "


Also, since SL can be closed at any time by hitting the X, that also prevents anyone from taking advantage of her.

Thats where I am right now. Concerned. I know little about it, although from this thread a picture is forming.

Thanks for taking this seriously.

And as Mr. Freud is credite d with saying, 'sometimes a stick, is just a stick.' Unless the friend already was a bit over the side, meh, just shrug and find your own bit of weirdness. Chances are YOU know your friend better than we do.

(Me readjust tinfoil to deflect BigHead Waves)

Oh, Pep! I was just joking! You are still VERY much at the top of my list. I've always swooned over the steely-eyed, cold-hearted ones.

Not singling you out but just to this notion: I disagree that it's always as simple as quitting the program. There are people out there who are very good at social engineering/emotional manipulation. Those types usually insist upon extra-SL methods of communication - email, skype, etc. True, computers are dangerous for the emotionally gullible, but they are online and predatory types can smell them.

If everyone had the self-possession to 'just hit the X' there'd be no need to worry, and no missing people via MySpace, Craigslist, etc.

That said, I think the OP should learn what is going on so they will fear it less. The roleplay in and of itself is not the problem. Emotional vulnerability/gullibility is.

I'm thinking this might be the kind of Blood Doll some might like to suck on:

And the emotionally gullible will be that way whether SL is part of it or not. For those types, even if they do hit the X, they will find a way to be a victim elsewhere until they realize their problem and get help.

/me points up.

What she said.

Pep, can she be your friend too?

Obviously - but there are certain ways predators like to hunt and the internet is one of those.

Seems obvious also that the hunting ground is much bigger than if the internet was not part of the picture. That sheltered person is going to be exposed to a lot more than they would have otherwise, and be much less prepared for it. Also, combine the emotional power online exchanges have for some people, with the disadvantage of knowing nothing 'real' about the other person and it's amazing that disasters don't happen MORE often.

Yes in the old days people might've had similar problems with pen pals but is there really a comparison? The chance for at least emotional abuse or harm is certainly there, if not physical as well. But my main point was that it isn't always so simple as "closing the X" - and there are many con men/women out there hunting.

Some will mess with other people's minds/hearts just for the kick of it. There is definitely a downside/underbelly to online communities, even if people want to blame the victim.

Well.. It's OBVIOUS that we're cuter! X3

This.

Apparently concern is as well it's own reward.

/makes note to self