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Explicit Adult Chat on Mainland? & Other Worries Re: Lax Adult Content Restrictions

Brenda Connolly
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07-05-2009 07:20
It is clearly satirical, but I don't see it as trolling at all. The topic is a legitimate one in SL these days, and I'm sure there are some who do agree with the OP's ides.There has been some good responses to him. mixed in with the "You are a troll" and other hysteria.

The word Troll is so highly overused. Anyone who says anything the controversial and disagreeable is called a troll.More ofren than not , it is a way of trying to silence someone with a disagreeable opinion, when no other response is at hand.
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07-05-2009 07:24
From: Brenda Connolly
It is clearly satirical, but I don't see it as trolling at all. The topic is a legitimate one in SL these days, and I'm sure there are some who do agree with the OP's ides.There has been some good responses to him. mixed in with the "You are a troll" and other hysteria.

The word Troll is so highly overused. Anyone who says anything the controversial and disagreeable is called a troll.More ofren than not , it is a way of trying to silence someone with a disagreeable opinion, when no other response is at hand.


Yes, I had this in mind when I made my response last night that made Jig so angry.
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07-05-2009 07:27
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Yes, I had this in mind when I made my response last night that made Jig so angry.


I read the OP last night, before anyone responded, and almost fell for it, but after reading his 2nd post I saw what he was doing there.
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07-05-2009 07:37
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Yes, but they only defeated the Nazi's.
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07-05-2009 07:40
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Oops! Not enough coffee yet this AM. it appears that I made the Nazis posessive rather than plural.

Heh, I just found this looking around support:

Voice and maturity ratings

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Date Created: 10/6/2009
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07-05-2009 07:53
i wasn't calling someone a troll because of the issues or lack of ability to respond..i was using it because i doubt sincerity or real concern by the OP.If i felt they were serious and not baiting i would not have used the word Trolling..
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07-05-2009 07:56
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Then it turned REALLY nasty as they started discussing AARP and Senior Citizen Discounts!!

Ageplayers! ;-)
See - they just cannot stop it no matter how hard LL tries.

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07-05-2009 07:56
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Yes, but they only defeated the Nazi's. My relatives were definately beaten in the Pacific Theatre of the War by John Wayne. After his death on Iwo Jima the US had to resort to nuclear warfare to finish the job.



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07-05-2009 07:57
From: Ephraim Kappler
I just *knew* somebody would drag BDSM into it.

For what it's worth, I don't think the OP is trolling. He appears to be satirising the f@cked up moral values used to dress the whole Zindra exodus, which otherwise appears to be little more than a finagling of revenue from enforced land sales.
Whether he believe the crap he writes or not, I firmly believe that he is posting this stuff just to cause more mayhem -- and that is trolling.
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07-05-2009 08:01
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You left out part of the URL. Try


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07-05-2009 08:05
From: Ceka Cianci
your trolling from what i can tell..after looking at your flickr and your land post about your competition being mature rated still and you somehow being on land rated adult..it's pretty easy to see you are just trolling..
Combined with the blog info posted by Jannae, he is definitely trolling.
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07-05-2009 08:12
From: Brenda Connolly
The topic is a legitimate one in SL these days.
But already sooooo over whined about in RA. There is not a damn thing we can do to change LLs mind on this unless it ends up impacting their $$, so having the majority of the threads be about it is overkill and rehashing in my mind. At the very least, I wish people would keep the number of threads on it down -- post in existing threads and stop starting new ones.


From: Brenda Connolly
The word Troll is so highly overused. Anyone who says anything the controversial and disagreeable is called a troll.More ofren than not , it is a way of trying to silence someone with a disagreeable opinion, when no other response is at hand.
In this case, he is posting just to get irrational responses and rile people up -- one of the typical definitions of trolling. Granted, the riling up might be a good idea, but it does still fit the definition. Calling an apple an apple is not to say that the apple is a bad thing.


(Well, okay, most people whining about him trolling really are making it a bad thing)
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07-05-2009 08:13
From: Jannae Karas
Sorry Fred, my one provacative statement seems to have derailed your train. Good luck getting it back on track.
You know....... we have not had a really good thread derailment in quite a while.
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07-05-2009 08:15
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You know....... we have not had a really good thread derailment in quite a while.


That's because we haven't had a really good thread in quite awile. Your comments on the subject being overdone here are well founded, perhaps the OP is speaking to that as well in his motivation for starting this thread. (Although he really didn't need to start another one. :rolleyes: )
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07-05-2009 08:17
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Oops! Not enough coffee yet this AM. it appears that I made the Nazis posessive rather than plural.
But they really were rather possessive - they did want to own everything (well, control it anyway).
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Ian Nider
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07-05-2009 08:18
Well I really hope they fix all the probs with chat: Groups still won't open properly for me, also it'd be cool to enhance the user controls a bit more.
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07-05-2009 08:27
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Well I really hope they fix all the probs with chat: Groups still won't open properly for me, also it'd be cool to enhance the user controls a bit more.
I have found that **most** of the time, if I actually open the group chat window myself rather than waiting for an incoming message to do so, it works a wee bit better.

Of course it still gives me errors on half my comments and I am sure by what I see in group chat that I am missing a lot of other people's comments -- or a lot more people are having more conversations with themselves these days.
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07-05-2009 08:32
From: Jannae Karas
Oops! Not enough coffee yet this AM. it appears that I made the Nazis posessive rather than plural.
I don't get nearly enough opportunities to use that picture any more. I treasure them all.
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07-05-2009 09:44
From: LittleMe Jewell
You know....... we have not had a really good thread derailment in quite a while.

It's time to revive the Deviant Thread :)
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07-05-2009 09:46
From: Fred Hegel
With the adult restrictions coming into effect on the mainland my question is: will explicit adult chat be censored or punishable on the mainland? Representations of violence and photo realistic portrayal of nudity is already being removed so shouldn't Linden Labs also move to restrict morally reprehensible language and/or language which explicitly describes sexual activity from the mainland also? A movie can be rated "R" in the US preventing children under the age of 18 to view it without adult supervision because of inappropriate language & I also believe there are similar restrictions on music with with inappropriate lyrics. I believe LL should put in place a chat and IM filter restricting such language.

Also: there should be concern that minors are being exposed to pornographic content through notecards and image uploads that are not rez'ed and yet are openly traded between avatars. Will LL move to enforce a ban on inter-avatar trading of pornographic images? Perhaps LL will adopt some type of photo filter which will restrict non-age verified accounts to upload pornographic or violent images?

Further: I am also concerned that there is a plethora of persons over the age of 18 utilizing the Teen Grid who are in all likelihood some type of sexual predator. Will LL put an age verification system in place for Teen Grid members to ensure no one over the age of 18 logged in there?

Please Linden Labs! Respond to these concerns or else the Mainland risks becoming a cesspool of filth like the Internet with adult content everywhere available to underage children. I believe with my suggestions in place we can make the Mainland the most morally correct place in the world!


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07-05-2009 09:59
From: Brenda Connolly
It is clearly satirical, but I don't see it as trolling at all. The topic is a legitimate one in SL these days, and I'm sure there are some who do agree with the OP's ides.There has been some good responses to him. mixed in with the "You are a troll" and other hysteria.

The word Troll is so highly overused. Anyone who says anything the controversial and disagreeable is called a troll.More ofren than not , it is a way of trying to silence someone with a disagreeable opinion, when no other response is at hand.

To paraphrase Clarke, any sufficiently well-written satire is indistinguishable from a troll.

Satire and sarcasm are difficult to do on the net, something people realized in the days of Usenet. I don't mean this as a criticism, but merely pointing out that anyone attempting satire of this sort shouldn't be surprised at these results.
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07-05-2009 10:03
From: Brenda Connolly

That'd be a riot if it wasn't so fast - or at least had a pause button.
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07-05-2009 10:06
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That'd be a riot if it wasn't so fast - or at least had a pause button.


I know. I had to play it several times when I first saw it. Too bad it could be made into a slideshow.
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07-05-2009 10:10
From: Brenda Connolly
I know. I had to play it several times when I first saw it. Too bad it could be made into a slideshow.
If you open it up in Preview.app you can browse the frames in the drawer.
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