I vote Fred for Grid Nanny!!!
and hopefully leave the rest of us the hell alone while they do.
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LittleMe Jewell
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07-04-2009 21:58
I vote Fred for Grid Nanny!!! and hopefully leave the rest of us the hell alone while they do. _____________________
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LittleMe Jewell
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07-04-2009 22:01
Why so many opponents to my beliefs? Am I the only one who would rather not casually encounter explicit language on the mainland? Common, I know you're out there supporters, let's hear your voice! _____________________
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Tod69 Talamasca
The Human Tripod ;)
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07-04-2009 22:15
Fred is right!!!
Just the other day I was TOTALLY DISGUSTED by a Public Adult Conversation about Divorce Settlements and How to pay for your Kid's College Tuition!!! Then it turned REALLY nasty as they started discussing AARP and Senior Citizen Discounts!! ![]() _____________________
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Melina Olifone
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07-04-2009 22:32
With the adult restrictions coming into effect on the mainland my question is: will explicit adult chat be censored or punishable on the mainland? Representations of violence and photo realistic portrayal of nudity is already being removed so shouldn't Linden Labs also move to restrict morally reprehensible language and/or language which explicitly describes sexual activity from the mainland also? A movie can be rated "R" in the US preventing children under the age of 18 to view it without adult supervision because of inappropriate language & I also believe there are similar restrictions on music with with inappropriate lyrics. I believe LL should put in place a chat and IM filter restricting such language. Also: there should be concern that minors are being exposed to pornographic content through notecards and image uploads that are not rez'ed and yet are openly traded between avatars. Will LL move to enforce a ban on inter-avatar trading of pornographic images? Perhaps LL will adopt some type of photo filter which will restrict non-age verified accounts to upload pornographic or violent images? Further: I am also concerned that there is a plethora of persons over the age of 18 utilizing the Teen Grid who are in all likelihood some type of sexual predator. Will LL put an age verification system in place for Teen Grid members to ensure no one over the age of 18 logged in there? Please Linden Labs! Respond to these concerns or else the Mainland risks becoming a cesspool of filth like the Internet with adult content everywhere available to underage children. I believe with my suggestions in place we can make the Mainland the most morally correct place in the world! Age verification doesn't prove anything, just that you could get the right information to put in the website, or spent money with Linden Labs. Even then, if an adult verifies an account, an underage person could later log in on that account. Fake ID info has worked for some people. Seems to me the focus should be towards protecting the teen grid and monitoring possible sex predators who might prey on those underage accounts on that grid. SL is considered an adult game for 18 and over. Teen Second Life is just that , for teens. LL should concentrate on what's more important, TEEN second life, and moderate their activity NOT deprive those SL account holders of their rights as a consumer/player. |
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Nanase Masukami
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07-04-2009 22:34
Since I'm lazy, have to ask this here; Will the Lindens start to restrict how clothing designers make clothes? Will creativity be restrained?
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LittleMe Jewell
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07-04-2009 23:03
Since I'm lazy, have to ask this here; Will the Lindens start to restrict how clothing designers make clothes? Will creativity be restrained? ![]() _____________________
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Ricardo Harris
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07-04-2009 23:07
Also: there should be concern that minors are being exposed to pornographic content ..we can make the Mainland the most morally correct place in the world! Oh, please!! Why should anyone be concerned over minors being expose to adult content? Lately, this is all you see here. All the talk about Zindra-this and Zindra-that. About kids and adult content. Day after day, post after post. You would think this was a Jehovah's Witness convention. It's not my job or anyone elses go around saving anyones kids from anything. Let their parents worry about them. Secondly, this is a place you come for enjoyment and relaxation and not to act as saviors for anyone especially someone elses brats. But the thing is these people here actually believe today's kids are dumb, stupid and naive when it comes to adult material. They're the ones who are terribly naive if they still haven't realize that nowadays these same kids they're so desperately trying to save know alot more then them when it comes to many things including sex. Yet, all they do is preach "Let's save kids". If anything, let Linden worry about this. They're the ones making lots of money off people here. Secondly, if their parents don't worry enough about their kids to oversee their activities, especially on-line ones then why should anyone else lose sleep over it? I can't stand those who think they can save the world. We can make the mainland the most morally correct place in the world? Yeah, right, Preacher! Now let's all hold hands as we pray for sinners everywhere. Amen |
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Dana Hickman
Leather & Lace™
Join date: 10 Oct 2006
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07-04-2009 23:26
Also: there should be concern that minors are being exposed to pornographic content through notecards and image uploads that are not rez'ed and yet are openly traded between avatars. Minors are not allowed in SL. If some have snuck in they've violated one of the biggest rules to get there. Make the right choice and get LL to fortify the entry gates so they CAN'T get in. Forget the nonsense about filters and safeguards to be imposed on an already 18+ adult community. Like many Americans I grew up with a strong religious background & moral correctitude is my prerogative! Then you can appreciate the truth that parenting, and especially conscientious parenting starts at HOME... not here. Suggesting restrictions for all of SL as a moral protection for impressionable kids who might lie to get in is NO SMARTER than suggesting restrictions on all forms of christian media and dialog because one of those not-supposed-to-be-here kids may, in fact, be muslim. _____________________
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Jannae Karas
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07-04-2009 23:35
It's OK Fred. Don't mind the replies. The big proponents of free speech are generally the ones to kick you around when you exercise it and it does not support their views.
Not agreeing with your view either, but fought for your right to express it. _____________________
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Scylla Rhiadra
Gentle is Human
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07-04-2009 23:52
Please Linden Labs! Respond to these concerns or else the Mainland risks becoming a cesspool of filth like the Internet with adult content everywhere available to underage children. I believe with my suggestions in place we can make the Mainland the most morally correct place in the world! Fred, can I make a suggestion, seeing as you actually DO seem to be serious about this . . . I don't agree with what you are suggesting, but I will concede that there is an argument to be made here. Where you REALLY lost me, however, is with the language in which your justification for this is couched. Terms like "cesspool of filth" and "most morally correct" are highly subjective and value-laden terms that will probably evoke an emotional response, but that add nothing to your actual argument. Who determines what is "filth"? Well, not even you, really: it's just a smear that's directed against a very loosely-defined target. Or what is "morally correct"? I tend to find the term "moral" suspect in any case: it usually seems to refer to a set of values handed down by fiat or convention, rather than explored and defined through rational discourse. Are your views "moral"? Well, maybe, but not because you have a Bible that tells you so: they become "moral" when you can logically demonstrate that they represent a valid ethical perspective. Your language here assumes a shared set of values that your audience here, anyway, clearly does not embrace. Moreover, by hiding behind words like "filth" and "morally correct," you rob us of the ability to really examine the validity of what you are saying: you are simply asking us to accept it without question. Most of us don't like to feel manipulated by inflammatory rhetoric: we resent the implication that we can be swayed by emotion, and that we don't deserve the respect of hearing a rational account of your views. Try this again with a more rational, respectful approach to your subject and your audience. We aren't necessarily more likely to agree with you, but we will, in turn, respect your views more, and be less likely to respond with mocking contempt. _____________________
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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
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07-04-2009 23:52
He wants to go around the grid reporting parcels that are not adult because his Sim Landland flagged his sim adult ahead of everyone else. Ahh... This explains it. An interesting trolling, then. I'll give it 6/10. Better than average... but still kinda average. Not sure what you mean by Troll Alert but if you're questioning my sincerity... believe me! Like many Americans I grew up with a strong religious background & moral correctitude is my prerogative! Yet your inworld profile contains a clear vulgarity, indicates you have skills deception, domination, subversion, blackmail. Well, the first of those skills may not be your strongest. Jes sayin'. _____________________
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Marianne McCann
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07-04-2009 23:55
Then it turned REALLY nasty as they started discussing AARP and Senior Citizen Discounts!! Ageplayers! ![]() _____________________
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Lance Corrimal
I don't do stupid.
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07-05-2009 00:36
Not sure what you mean by Troll Alert but if you're questioning my sincerity... believe me! Like many Americans I grew up with a strong religious background & moral correctitude is my prerogative! Like I stated in my original post - I'm quite satisfied... if not relieved that Linden Labs is banishing visually explicit content from the mainland (about time, right?) but my concern is that Linden Labs hasn't gone far enough. Please with your help we can put my suggestions in place and make the Mainland a better place! why do you even hang out in SecondLife, just go and pray or something. |
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Damien1 Thorne
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07-05-2009 00:51
As this deals with the more technical and social aspects of sl that are not normally discussed in RA, I would suggest that the op find out how to monitor these perverts by cross posting this thread in the scripting forum. For the social aspect, I would suggest that the op also cross posts this thread across the street at sluniverse.com .
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Ephraim Kappler
Reprobate
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07-05-2009 01:34
Will creativity be restrained? I just *knew* somebody would drag BDSM into it. For what it's worth, I don't think the OP is trolling. He appears to be satirising the f@cked up moral values used to dress the whole Zindra exodus, which otherwise appears to be little more than a finagling of revenue from enforced land sales. |
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RockAndRoll Michigan
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07-05-2009 02:34
I, too, am of the mind that the op is not a troll. This is satire of the highest order and frankly a very welcome change from the moral crusaders who are pushing and pushing and pushing and pushing too damn hard. The ones who don't grasp why the response to their stupidity is to push back.
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Ciaran Laval
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07-05-2009 04:32
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Argent Stonecutter
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07-05-2009 04:58
Like many Americans I grew up with a strong religious background & moral correctitude is my prerogative! _____________________
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Tegg Bode
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07-05-2009 04:58
With the adult restrictions coming into effect on the mainland my question is: will explicit adult chat be censored or punishable on the mainland? Representations of violence and photo realistic portrayal of nudity is already being removed so shouldn't Linden Labs also move to restrict morally reprehensible language and/or language which explicitly describes sexual activity from the mainland also? A movie can be rated "R" in the US preventing children under the age of 18 to view it without adult supervision because of inappropriate language & I also believe there are similar restrictions on music with with inappropriate lyrics. I believe LL should put in place a chat and IM filter restricting such language. Also: there should be concern that minors are being exposed to pornographic content through notecards and image uploads that are not rez'ed and yet are openly traded between avatars. Will LL move to enforce a ban on inter-avatar trading of pornographic images? Perhaps LL will adopt some type of photo filter which will restrict non-age verified accounts to upload pornographic or violent images? Further: I am also concerned that there is a plethora of persons over the age of 18 utilizing the Teen Grid who are in all likelihood some type of sexual predator. Will LL put an age verification system in place for Teen Grid members to ensure no one over the age of 18 logged in there? Please Linden Labs! Respond to these concerns or else the Mainland risks becoming a cesspool of filth like the Internet with adult content everywhere available to underage children. I believe with my suggestions in place we can make the Mainland the most morally correct place in the world! They'll probably do no more than any other PG rated MMO has to do, if people use explcit chat or voice on inapproprate rated land they depend on enough people actually taking offense enough to report it. No reason why they couldn't make a profanity filter part of the viewer and just prevent offended people from viewing it. No point putting it on the offenders end as they would just turn it off or run an alternative viewer. _____________________
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Chris Norse
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07-05-2009 05:04
it was founded by the natives.. Anyone born here is a native. _____________________
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Jig Chippewa
Fine Young Cannibal
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07-05-2009 05:05
It's OK Fred. Don't mind the replies. The big proponents of free speech are generally the ones to kick you around when you exercise it and it does not support their views. Not agreeing with your view either, but fought for your right to express it. oh puhleeeze, give us a break ,,, _____________________
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Chris Norse
Loud Arrogant Redneck
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07-05-2009 05:09
oh puhleeeze, give us a break ,,, Sorry there Jig, Jannae has done more for freedom than you will ever even think about doing. And she does have a point, I have noticed it among the "artsy free expression" types. They are among the first to cry for speech codes and hate laws. _____________________
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Jig Chippewa
Fine Young Cannibal
Join date: 30 Oct 2006
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07-05-2009 05:09
Not sure what you mean by Troll Alert but if you're questioning my sincerity... believe me! Like many Americans I grew up with a strong religious background & moral correctitude is my prerogative! Like I stated in my original post - I'm quite satisfied... if not relieved that Linden Labs is banishing visually explicit content from the mainland (about time, right?) but my concern is that Linden Labs hasn't gone far enough. Please with your help we can put my suggestions in place and make the Mainland a better place! Pep/Fred, you wa*ker, stop pis*ing around. _____________________
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Jig Chippewa
Fine Young Cannibal
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07-05-2009 05:11
Sorry there Jig, Jannae has done more for freedom than you will ever even think about doing. And she does have a point, I have noticed it among the "artsy free expression" types. They are among the first to cry for speech codes and hate laws. Okay Chris, dont get personal - you have absolutely NO idea who I really am - BUT I can assure you I am deeply involved in human rights in real world and in freedoms of speech and politics. I have prolly donated - and committed time and energy - MORE to these issues that you have had hot f**king dinners!! I may want this persona to sound more like a side of me I usually have to hide in reality. So lay off me on that - that was highly offensive and patronizing. Cheeky s*d. Jig HERE is my relieff from stress "THERE" so dont moralize with me - FREE Speech is NOT an element that is inherent in this person's post. _____________________
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Lota Lyon
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Join date: 5 Oct 2006
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07-05-2009 05:14
Take your Police State Fascism to There.com. #1 - Uninstall SL #2 - Log into secondlife.com and cancel your account #3 - Prepare for the return of Comet Hale Bop and to leave the planet A.S.A.P (make sure to buy white Nikes with the gold swoosh, or you will get left behind like the last group). ROFLMAO!!! |