An Experiment in Psychology - those who know me, and nudity

Okay, this post is mostly directed toward adult avs who know me rather well (to wit: Cartel members, but any adult av who's known me for a long time could contribute). There's no "right-wrong" answers to any of my questions as far as I'm concerned, and I'm not trying to prove any points one way or the other. I'm genuinely interested in peoples' true reactions and answers, so try to contribute with that in mind.

There's a certain time of evening that I tend not to visit the Hangout unless there's a planned PG event taking place. The reason is because popular theory holds that after a certain hour, the Hangout is considered "mature", where those who choose to be more restrained when a kid av is around can loosen up a bit. I've heard VICIOUS, HORRIBLE rumors that there has been NUDITY at some of these occasions!!! The rumors suggest the nudity doesn't include explicit...adult stuff; but nudity nonetheless.

The current redesignation/rule changing as far as what's allowed on Mature land might or might not have an impact on whether such nude-scapades can continue; but for the purposes of this experiment, let's assume there is no change and such things would be allowed to continue.

Okay, so here's the game. Imagine I was disoriented and didn't realize it was "mature" time at the Hangout, and dropped in, looking the way I usually look (i.e., my normal kid-av self), on a bunch of nude dancing. What would your reaction be, assuming that you are one of the nude avatars? Would you ask me to leave? Would you leave? Would you put on clothes? Would you otherwise feel uncomfortable?

Okay, after answering that, let's pretend I realize where I am and what's going on, and change - right in front of you - into an adult avatar, or some other kind of non-kid avatar. Same questions - would you still be uncomfortable? Or would my avatar-change alleve your discomfort?

Let's say I wasn't disoriented, and knew what time it was, and purposefully showed up - in an adult avatar. Same questions - would you be uncomfortable? What would your reaction be?

We'll assume in each of these cases that I WON'T be nude, thanks very much!

So, what are your answers? After I've gotten a few, I'll reveal what prompted me to ask the questions (don't worry, I didn't TP in on any unsuspecting nude people). I'll admit, I'm anticipating at least a few of a certain kind of answer, but don't just tell me what I want to hear.

Well?

I personally wouldn't get any kind of upset by it and I would get dressed, the reason for that is the hangout is (my understanding of the rules) open to everybody so if you oopsed and showed up it would only be right to try to keep things within the rules till you either changed or left on your own. Of course somebody by then would have reminded everybody about the time thing in the rules too.
If you did it on purpose that would be different, then it would require duct taping you to a chair and moving you down to the play ground until mari could get there to stand you in a corner or something

Personally, I have no desire to get nekkid with anyone other than my sweetheart.
But that's just me. To each their own. *shrug*

Hypothetically, I would respect whichever avatar you are "wearing". I am not too good at RP myself, but I try to at least respect the other person's RP, whether it's a child, a dragon, a tiny, a spider, whatever.

Although I know you are an adult in RL, when you've been a particular avatar for a long period of time, people - me included - tend to associate and identify you with that avatar; so, if you showed up in adult form, or changed on-scene, I would be a bit unsure how to behave around you, at least for a few minutes or so.

As for what I would do if I was naked and you showed up in child form: It would depend on what is going on at the time. If it is a scheduled nude-fest, I would expect you to either leave or change. However, if it was unscheduled, and I just happened to have relieved myself of my clothing, and you showed up; I would excuse myself, go somewhere, and get dressed.

First situation, Des frolicking as per described ~ not bloody likely I'd be doing that, so, let's presume I'm standing there sternly in my Caledon Flag print Boxers (yes, not kidding, what are you laughing at, people?) amidst this... whatever is going on. Presuming even *that* would happen, which... it wouldn't.

So I see you arrive... my reaction would be to port out (presuming for some unlikely reason I was sticking around in the first place). Ah... just not keen on potentially squicky situations with nakie people and child avatars about. Would I blame you? Nah, how would you know what was going on? Would I blame anyone else? Nah, how would they know you were gonna show up? Would I stick around? No, I'd prolly IM and say: "No offence, but ah... I'm out."

Second situation ~ well if you are presenting yourself as an adult, then that's that then. No scenario presented that would any worse than simply being there to begin with.

Third situation ~ same as the second.

I think the issue has to do with *just how crazy* things can suddenly get, with topics of this nature. And who needs that? Rather than overanalysing, everyone should just port away from situations they feel are questionable, regardless of who/what, rather than whip up a drama frenzy. Questionable situations aren't limited to kid avatars, by any means. Anyone in practically any situation can port off for a sec, IM and ask what's going on, or walk up from a distance or something.

Hmmm assuming I was my normal avatar, I'd probably apologise for my appearance after completing whatever foolishness required a naked Kangaroo.
Otherwise if I was naked Lego or something similar, I'd shreik and run from the room in embarassment, I don't do human

'tis why I don't tend to go to the hangout. I'm never sure when "nude time" is, and feel it's probably better for me to just stay away and let the adults play whenever they wanna. Just easier that way.

I am always naked under my underwear layers.

hmmm

If we`re soley talking about the hang out...and im a guest there...Id very much hope someone would ask you to *large up * into an adult av...if that didnt happen, Id leave..not in a huff or anything but because i dont want to be around a child av naked, seems to be asking for trouble somehow...I might also, just get dressed, but if others were still naked..Id feel it better to say my good byes and go.

I dont know you personally..if i did I'll add to the above scenario...I myself would im you and ask you to change av to an adult one.

If you did change there and then...situation over..its all cool.

If you arrived as an adult..no worries either..

ohhh oops..was this only to be answered by those that know you? sorry

Okay. An honest response? With no repercussions? I would leave immediately.

I usually leave any place where a child av is around. I am nervous around child avis since I cannot imagine the child/adult thing. It's just not something I can relate to. I dont think adults should be children but that is my "thing" - it really doesnt "work" for me.

I was once at the hangout when I wore a see through blouse and a boy/man was present. I was asked to leave by the bar tender because a child was around. I didnt argue and left immediately. I dont see you as anymore a child as I see a another person as a real kangaroo. It's jus an "act" but I dont buy into it. But I left so as not to make trouble. I dont think I have been back more than a handful of times.

So, yes I would leave. It's asking for trouble. Kids and adults dont really mix, even when the kids are really adults.
(I should add that if you arrived on my property as a child I would immediately eject you - just to be on the safe side of the law).

Personally I do not see a problem as long as no adult activities go on. In my world, being nude is no offense, being nude with children present neither. There is no connection between being nude and sex. Where did it go wrong, that people started thinking different?

About the time we realized it was gonna end in tears. Nude and sex I agree isnt always the case, but you gotta be nude to have great sex so there's the connection

Hang on, I just realized something - you are a little boy, right? Then there is absolutely NO Fu&king way I would let you anywhere near me if I was nude.
EW!!!!!!!!
Icky! NO. Arrgh! Some dirty-minded little boy in a room of nudes is too gross.

Also since I know your name and associate you with a small boy I would still leave if you were an adult. To me you are always gonna be a kid.

Always risky to answer a hypothetical and this case is about as hypothetical for me as it is for Des, I guess. But assuming all that...

My only concern, really, would be your comfort level with any of this. AFAIK, Marcel is right: there are no rules that prevent adult and child AVs to be nude at the same location. (Wasn't there some big deal about that being allowed? The principle being based on RL nudist colonies or something like that?) And we're not even talking about that: the child AV is dressed in these scenarios.

In any case, being allowed by the rules is beside the point if the participants aren't comfortable. So the various scenarios differ in the level of discomfort they suggest:

1. You show up and don't change: I'd feel a little uncomfortable because you've said (in this thread, at least) that this makes you uncomfortable; even though I don't think there's anything "wrong" about it, I'd probably add some clothing textures.

2. You change to an adult AV on the spot: Irrationally, this would make me the most uncomfortable of all, because it makes explicit that you were at least inconvenienced and possibly upset by the situation. At this point, most likely, I'd TP out.

3. You show up as an adult AV: No problem.

I'd probably IM you with a warning, while you were still rezzing, that someone is nude in the hangout.

If only so it did not become a frankenthread here.

Damn, where am I when all this nudity happens? What time does the nudity start anyway?

I barely know you at all, Cody, much less know you very well. I will try to give my honest answers tho.

1 - I would start by saying something like, "Are you sure you need to be here, Cody?" The hangout is a mature area and if you make no attempt to mature up, I would make an excuse and leave. I would certainly be uncomfortable and would cover up as soon as possible.

2 - I would say thank you and probably compliment your adult self and party on!

3 - See 1. I can not read your mind and would not know your intention so either case would be the same for me. I am nervious enough just going to Livingtree and sitting on the ground to watch a fireworks show. I really do not want to be around a child avatar on a mature sim where anyone with an axe to grind is one snapshot away from getting me banned. So same thing, ether the child leaves or I do. Nothing mean spirited about it and no hurt feelings, I would just be removing myself from an uncomfortable position.

Well I often spend my free time (weekends with good weather, holidays) at naturist campsites, where no one (EEKS) wears any clothes. Men, women and children, and no one is scared to see another naked body. And no one seems to think: we are all naked so we must have great sex.

The children that are used to this way of living, grow up with the knowledge that a human body is quite natural, as it should be. It is a weird world in which a naked body is immediately connected to sex, don't you think?

I don't know you, I don't spend time at the hangout, but I still think this would have been my reactions:

1. Kid randomly dropping in on nude dancing in publig hangout:
I'd say hi and reach for the boxers and jeans, put em on, feel a tad awkward for a moment and then dance on.

2. Kid randomly dropping in on nude dancing in publig hangout immediately changing to adult av: I'd say hi, look for my boxers and feel awkward until I realised the kid had/is growing up and then carry on as if nothing.

3. Someone who is usually a kid shows up as adult: it's just another adult. No problem.


Now, if I was the kid who stopped by a hangout to find unscheduled nekkidness, I'd feel awkward and silly, and back out the door from the freaky adults - possibly to age up and head back in. (That's unlikely to ever happen though, as my kid self usually hangs out at The Shelter. )

Personally,I would never be naked at the hangout but even if I were,you are an adult in RL, not a child. So I really don't see a issue and find no reason to feel uncomfortable.

If I'm sufficiently naked to be considered nude, then I'm probably a bottlenosed dolphin or something.

I've BEEN a kid on a nude beach in RL. But in SL, I think I'd be a little uncomfortable if you showed up in a kid toon around naked humans simply because of the controversy about such things.

I'd have no problem.

Again, no problem.

In SL, nudity around child avatars is asking for trouble.

Can't imagine this happening as I would not walk around nude in public anyway~

Disappointing Ama....

Hmmm....which answer is most likely to get me a free Orca?

I'd like to say that none of those situations would give me pause, Cody. I mean, YOU are an adult, regardless of avatar. But the reality is that the first thing I would do is worry about ARs. I wouldn't want you to get one...Immy can tell you all about the pain of fighting THAT fight. I wouldn't want anyone else to get one either.

So...if you morphed into an adult av, I'd just go right back to having fun.

if you chose to remain in child av form....I'd be REALLY nervous that trouble would start. But I'd probably not leave.

Of course...I wouldn't be nekkid. I'd just be there to egg on the ladies.

And Rio, and Amara...no public nekkie...for shame!

I wouldn't say anything. I think Dakota is hip to what is going on and would take the appropriate action himself. Be it change appearance or leave. in any event, I would nvevr be nude at The Hangout. I have no problem with nudity in appropriate places, but The Hangout, I think is generall not one of them, unless it was a specific planned and announced situation. While I also subscribe to the idea that we are all supposed to be adults , no matter what the avatar, the reality is different, and one must protect themselves from self styled morality cops as well as LL's incompetent adminstrative policies.