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Saucey Barbecue
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06-13-2008 18:39
From: Darkness Anubis One last try to get past your narrow minded perceptions.
LL made a statement. And has never made a statement contrary to it.
The photo and article are dubious at best if only from the source.
I personally have never recieved such a message. Nor has anyone I know personally and trust.
I do not know you at all besides being an annoying smart mouth on these forums. I have ZERO reason to trust your word on it.
IF what you say is true then my post is still correct. It is interesting that LL has acted counter to thier plan. IF what you said is not true it is still an interesting plan.
Now I am done with you soon as I figure out how you will be muted purely because I find you annoying. Bye bye then troll, I'll call ya a wambulance, k?
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Mrc Homewood
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06-13-2008 20:06
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Maureen McLean
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06-13-2008 20:58
On one of the LL posts about the new release Candidate someone posted this.... "June 12th, 2008 at 2:39 PM 89 I cant get on and thats what the failed log in is saying… no free accounts allowed for a smoother experience for paid residents. I dont know but if even half of the people complaining is this blog are paid residents then the smooth ride isnt working!"
Quite a few people posted the same type of thing. I think they shut it down to non paying members for a short while.
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poopmaster Oh
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06-13-2008 21:16
 When LL Throttles logins they should use this notice instead
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Kitty Barnett
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06-13-2008 22:29
From: Vittorio Beerbaum And the screenshot is real. Which one? There are two screenshots in this thread  . If you want to take the first one at face-value, you need to take mine at face-value too. Obviously mine is fake, so the first one could easily be fake as well considering there is nothing to back it up (and someone with 1 post to their name hardly counts either).
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Ann Launay
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06-13-2008 23:33
From: Darkness Anubis so YOU say. again I have no proof.
Can someone please remind me how to mute someone on this forum. I have never done it but I am through with several trolls. Saucey and I lived on the same island for several months and she's never struck me as the type to make these sort of things up. Also, sharing a personal experience or opinion does not make someone a troll, as you seem to be implying.
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Phil Deakins
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06-14-2008 02:20
From: Ann Launay Saucey and I lived on the same island for several months and she's never struck me as the type to make these sort of things up. Also, sharing a personal experience or opinion does not make someone a troll, as you seem to be implying. And discussing something with someone does not make someone a troll - as Saucey stated that Darkness is. You and Saucey should would have been good together.
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Vittorio Beerbaum
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06-14-2008 05:15
From: Kitty Barnett Which one? There are two screenshots in this thread  . If you want to take the first one at face-value, you need to take mine at face-value too. Obviously mine is fake, so the first one could easily be fake as well considering there is nothing to back it up (and someone with 1 post to their name hardly counts either). eheh.. i mean (obviously) the first screenshot in the thread... anyway it's not the screenshots that counts, it's the fact: they have "experimented" it for a short amount of time, and the accesses basis was: Premium *not* Basic. I have no idea if they will implement it as a "standard", maybe they wanted just to see the reaction (like this thread), or they wanted to check if the system may works. I don't think it will be a big trouble anyway, because when these kind of problems are happening, even if you login you can't do anything apart chatting... so stay in or out doesn't make a so big difference, and at least they may justify what the premium members are paying for (because the possibility to buy in mainland and the live chat doesn't seems (to be) a big incentive to switch to premium).
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Maximillian Desoto
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06-14-2008 06:48
From: Maureen McLean On one of the LL posts about the new release Candidate someone posted this.... … no free accounts allowed for a smoother experience for paid residents. Quite a few people posted the same type of thing. I think they shut it down to non paying members for a short while. TWO people posted about this on the RC blog entry. From the wording of thier comments, it sounds like they are parroting the SLH article, not any direct knowledge of such a log-in denial. Yes, LL has talked about the possibility of limiting log-ins at times, using payment info as a criteria. There has been no CREDIBLE evidence that shows they have ever implemented this policy. So far, when log-ins have been closed, they have been closed to everyone but Lindens. Or the odd case where certain residents information was on an affected server.
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Saucey Barbecue
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06-14-2008 08:03
From: Maximillian Desoto TWO people posted about this on the RC blog entry. From the wording of thier comments, it sounds like they are parroting the SLH article, not any direct knowledge of such a log-in denial. I have direct, personal knowledge of a similar login denial. Unfortunately since the error read as "due to high load logins temporarly existed", I can't really claim that I was denied due ta bein' a free account. I DO have PIOF, so it's prolly not that. From: Maximillian Desoto Yes, LL has talked about the possibility of limiting log-ins at times, using payment info as a criteria. There has been no CREDIBLE evidence that shows they have ever implemented this policy. And their promise ta do so certain'y doesn' mean that they'd actually DO so. From: Maximillian Desoto So far, when log-ins have been closed, they have been closed to everyone but Lindens. Or the odd case where certain residents information was on an affected server. I s'spect you are correct.
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Vittorio Beerbaum
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06-14-2008 08:12
From: Saucey Barbecue Unfortunately since the error read as "due to high load logins temporarly existed", I can't really claim that I was denied due ta bein' a free account. When the login is declined due to your account type (Basic/Premium) you'lll not receive a "generic text" box, you'll read exactly that the login has been denied because you are a not paying user (the screenshot at the start of this thread is genuine, and it's the one used yesterday).
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Brenda Connolly
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06-14-2008 08:28
Hopefully, someone with the ear of a Linden can find out what really is the deal here. So far it's nothing but speculation for the most part, at least until some more people can corroborate this. For now Maximillian's post #84 is the one I'm going to go with.
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Ceka Cianci
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06-14-2008 08:32
when i can't get in i get all kinds of different errors each try..and they all say to contact support.. you have to love the inconsistent consistency..there was a time when i believed all those pop up boxes with the close button on them
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Ordinal Malaprop
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06-14-2008 08:39
An anonymous rabble-rousing cropped screenshot containing suspicious language appears on the Herald - the _Herald_, for heaven's sake - nobody can be found who has actually seen this box, there is no confirmation from other sources, and there is some debate as to whether it is _real_ or not?
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Saucey Barbecue
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06-14-2008 08:49
From: Vittorio Beerbaum When the login is declined due to your account type (Basic/Premium) you'lll not receive a "generic text" box, you'll read exactly that the login has been denied because you are a not paying user (the screenshot at the start of this thread is genuine, and it's the one used yesterday). n' how do ya know this?
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Colette Meiji
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06-14-2008 08:50
From: Maximillian Desoto TWO people posted about this on the RC blog entry. From the wording of thier comments, it sounds like they are parroting the SLH article, not any direct knowledge of such a log-in denial.
Yes, LL has talked about the possibility of limiting log-ins at times, using payment info as a criteria. There has been no CREDIBLE evidence that shows they have ever implemented this policy.
So far, when log-ins have been closed, they have been closed to everyone but Lindens. Or the odd case where certain residents information was on an affected server. Yes, you would think that if this policy were in place then the shut down the other day would have been the time it was used.
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Saucey Barbecue
I Nommed yer Girlfriend
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06-14-2008 08:51
From: Ordinal Malaprop An anonymous rabble-rousing cropped screenshot containing suspicious language appears on the Herald - the _Herald_, for heaven's sake - nobody can be found who has actually seen this box, there is no confirmation from other sources, and there is some debate as to whether it is _real_ or not? Heh, Ms. Ordinal's allus the voice of reason. (Love yer switchblade)
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Brenda Connolly
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06-14-2008 09:26
From: Saucey Barbecue n' how do ya know this? A bot told him while he was SLeeping
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Vittorio Beerbaum
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06-14-2008 09:26
From: Saucey Barbecue n' how do ya know this? I may have seen it with my eyes and i may have asked to the proper persons about it? It's not important how i know it, it's more important that im telling you that the screenshot is genuine. There would be obvious reasons why i can't respond to your question, but again, does it make any difference? Unless the problem is if i lie (and for what reason...). It would be better to discuss on how it may affect our future, than continue to discuss about if it's fake or not, since i've told you that is not. 
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Brenda Connolly
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06-14-2008 09:34
Of course it makes a difference. You are making a claim that is pretty much unsubstantiated except by the blatherings in a Scandal Mag. And even though LL isn't the most consistent in policy, your claims go against everything they have said on the matter. Then when asked to substantiate your claim, you you hide behind some alleged Inside Knowledge yet won't elaborate any further upon. As far as I'm concerned, until proven otherwise, you sir, are full of shit. If I am wrong I will gladly make the required apology.
PS. If you wish to quote me, please use the full quote in it's intended context. TYVM.
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Saucey Barbecue
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06-14-2008 09:38
From: Vittorio Beerbaum I may have seen it with my eyes and i may have asked to the proper persons about it? It's not important how i know it, it's more important that im telling you that the screenshot is genuine. There would be obvious reasons why i can't respond to your question, but again, does it make any difference? Unless the problem is if i lie (and for what reason...). It would be better to discuss on how it may affect our future, than continue to discuss about if it's fake or not, since i've told you that is not.  If ya can't offer any better than "'cause I say so", I can't even begin ta pretend ta believe ya.
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Ceka Cianci
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06-14-2008 09:45
until i see it pop up on my screen it's fake..wait i am premium will i ever see this thing?? if not then i am not living to the fullest extent of my premium........nesss.. we are supposed to have access everything and i want to see this damn window to feel whole again!! i mean if only free accounts can see this then how are people seeing this? from alts with no pay info? has anyone seen this on a basic account?
without a blog stating it was going into affect i doubt it is real..it would have been in either download notes or blog for something like this since it would be something lindens would want their pay info customers to know for goody points..
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Vittorio Beerbaum
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06-14-2008 09:48
From: Brenda Connolly Of course it makes a difference. I tought the OP opened a thread to ask for this: "ive never seen this pop up, have you? is it real or fake" ...and i've replied to it, saying: "no, it's not fake". And i'm not talking about any scandal mag (initially i didn't even read it was from a magazine), nor any previous blog entry. If i tell you, it's real, because i've seen it, i think it would be enough... we aren't in a court. If you want an official reply, and if you think i lie, then there's no other way to wait for a blog entry, so we can discuss it further.  From: someone If I am wrong I will gladly make the required apology. I don't need em eventually, i perfectly understand your position. I may lie because im crazy (not that i'm crazy... but there are crazy ppl around, so i may be one of them). Cheers.
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Toy LaFollette
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06-14-2008 09:54
honestly, who gives a rats butt?
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Brenda Connolly
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06-14-2008 09:55
Fair enough Vittorio. I came on a little strong there. I don't deny you saw what you saw, I just don't believe it is from where you believe it to be from. And for the most part, I am a "I need to see it to believe it " person, or at least see overehelming evidence.
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